DCSW - awesome

[javelina1]

Not sure where to post this. I've just loaded up DCSW, over the weekend. A great sim, and I really enjoy learning on the SU-25.

 

I've been flying BMS Falcon for a while now. Have the TM MFD's, along with Saitek X52's (with the magnet & tension mod's), as well as the Saitek combat rudders.

 

At this rate, I think I'll ask for FC3 as an Xmas gift. :)

 

My current rig is an: i5 with 8GB RAM, Win 7 professional, using a 24" Samsung LCD, 5.1 sound, TrackIR 5, and with a Radeon HD 5770 video card.

 

Only getting around 45-55fps with that vid adapter, when not in combat, etc. At the airbase, or flying into combat, it does drop quite a bit of the FPS's.

 

So I'm thinking of upgrading to an HD7870 (black Friday deals are looking good).

 

any rate, thank you to the developers. A very nice sim!

 

regards,

 

-Jav

Edited November 26, 2013 by javelina1

[Agg]

If you like BMS you should go for the Warthog instead of FC3 :)

[javelina1]

If you like BMS you should go for the Warthog instead of FC3 :)

 

thanks Agg, maybe I'll get both! :lol::thumbup:

[KennethBF]

thanks Agg, maybe I'll get both! :lol::thumbup:

 

Remember that you must buy Lock on(The old one) before you install FC3!

 

And: Some of the FC3 planes will be separate downloads like A-10A and Su-25 (Both from flaming cliff 3)

 

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/

 

FC3 planes are more arcade(simplified).

 

A-10 C, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H and P51-D Is full and advanced simulators with cklicable cocpit.

 

This is my top list:

 

1 A-10 C

2 Mi-8MTV2 Beta

3 Ka-50

4 UH-1H Beta

 

I do not have P51-D Mustang

 

A lot of 3rd party developers will release their planes(modules) soon (Top quality, full and realistic simulators like DCS/ED and some even better).

 

Mig 21 Bis might get released 30.03.2014

 

Remember:

 

A-10 A = FC3 "Arkade" simulator

A-10 C = DCS Full simulator

 

So I'm thinking of upgrading to an HD7870 (black Friday deals are looking good).

 

Id rather go for nvidia......

Edited November 27, 2013 by KennethBF

[Home Fries]

I wouldn't call FC3 "arcade" by any stretch. It is much less complicated than a full DCS module like the A-10C, but just because you can't toggle nosewheel steering or manually change frequencies or the HSI heading bug doesn't make it "arcade". You still have to fly and fight the plane, which although simpler can be every bit as difficult as the DCS modules (and harder in some cases). After all, you load up the same DCS World, whether you fly the A-10A or A-10C.

 

I enjoy both FC3 and the full DCS modules.

 

EDIT: FC3 is the same fidelity as the Su-25T. Since you've been learning the Toad, you already understand the level of complexity for FC3.

Edited November 27, 2013 by Home Fries

[Devrim]

...A-10 A = FC3 "Arkade" simulator

A-10 C = DCS Full simulator...

 

A-10 A = FC3 Arcade Simulator

A-10 C = DCS Complete Simulator

 

:D :P

[hypersonik]

A-10 A = FC3 Arcade Simulator

A-10 C = DCS Complete Simulator

 

:D :P

 

:megalol:

[Frostie]

Arcade games often have short levels, simple and intuitive control schemes, and rapidly increasing difficulty.

FC3 has a fairly complex control scheme and possess only 2 levels: simulator mode and arcade mode.

 

Arcade flight games also use simplified physics and controls in comparison to flight simulators.

FC3 is a simulator that uses complex physics and controls to simulate aircraft combat operation. There is an option called 'arcade mode' to dumb the flight model and controls down.

[javelina1]

Remember that you must buy Lock on(The old one) before you install FC3!

 

And: Some of the FC3 planes will be separate downloads like A-10A and Su-25 (Both from flaming cliff 3)

 

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/

 

FC3 planes are more arcade(simplified).

 

A-10 C, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H and P51-D Is full and advanced simulators with cklicable cocpit.

 

This is my top list:

 

1 A-10 C

2 Mi-8MTV2 Beta

3 Ka-50

4 UH-1H Beta

 

I do not have P51-D Mustang

 

A lot of 3rd party developers will release their planes(modules) soon (Top quality, full and realistic simulators like DCS/ED and some even better).

 

Mig 21 Bis might get released 30.03.2014

 

Remember:

 

A-10 A = FC3 "Arkade" simulator

A-10 C = DCS Full simulator

 

 

 

Id rather go for nvidia......

 

Hi KennethBF. I do have the original LockOn software. Picked it up off of Amazon for $6, (digital version). So I'm set from that perspective.

 

I'll have to check out A-10C next.... ;)

[javelina1]

I wouldn't call FC3 "arcade" by any stretch. It is much less complicated than a full DCS module like the A-10C, but just because you can't toggle nosewheel steering or manually change frequencies or the HSI heading bug doesn't make it "arcade". You still have to fly and fight the plane, which although simpler can be every bit as difficult as the DCS modules (and harder in some cases). After all, you load up the same DCS World, whether you fly the A-10A or A-10C.

 

I enjoy both FC3 and the full DCS modules.

 

EDIT: FC3 is the same fidelity as the Su-25T. Since you've been learning the Toad, you already understand the level of complexity for FC3.

 

thanks Home Fries. I'm actually having a hoot flying the Toad. Just managed to land that bad boy safely, 3 times in a row. whoot! :)

 

The one thing I like about BMS Falcon is the fully functional 3D cockpit. (along with my functional MFD's). If the A-10C gives me that, I'm in!

[javelina1]

Arcade games often have short levels, simple and intuitive control schemes, and rapidly increasing difficulty.

FC3 has a fairly complex control scheme and possess only 2 levels: simulator mode and arcade mode.

 

Arcade flight games also use simplified physics and controls in comparison to flight simulators.

FC3 is a simulator that uses complex physics and controls to simulate aircraft combat operation. There is an option called 'arcade mode' to dumb the flight model and controls down.

 

thanks for the clarification Frostie. exactly what I'm looking for. complex physics and controls. I've no interest in arcade. I've been flying the Toad in simulation mode only. :thumbup:

Edited November 27, 2013 by javelina1

[javelina1]

Whoa! I'll probably need to scan the A-10C forum for this. But I was looking at some of the cockpit screen shots.

 

Will my external TM MFD's work with DCS A-10C? they appear to be similar to what is in the F-16, (and I have the MFD's working on a separate VGA LCD). Sure hope so! If that's the case, I'm buying A-10C!!! :):thumbup:

[joey45]

The current DCS engine is primarily CPU based But EDGE i(Eagles Super Dupper Engine) is a completely new engine that will utilise both CPU and GPU.

 

So go for a R9 card.

 

Which i5 CPU do you have?

[javelina1]

The current DCS engine is primarily CPU based But EDGE i(Eagles Super Dupper Engine) is a completely new engine that will utilise both CPU and GPU.

 

So go for a R9 card.

 

Which i5 CPU do you have?

 

a quick check via control panel -> system:

 

i5 CPU 661 @ 3.33GHz

[Home Fries]

Will my external TM MFD's work with DCS A-10C? they appear to be similar to what is in the F-16, (and I have the MFD's working on a separate VGA LCD). Sure hope so! If that's the case, I'm buying A-10C!!! :):thumbup:

They absolutely work with the A-10C. :thumbup:

 

Since you're a BMS vet, what kind of HOTAS do you have?

[javelina1]

They absolutely work with the A-10C. :thumbup:

 

Since you're a BMS vet, what kind of HOTAS do you have?

 

Now that is some awesome news! Being able to reuse my TM MFD's!!! :)

 

I'm currently using the Saitek X52, (with both the magnet & tensioner mod's). Also, I have the Saitek combat rudders, and TrackIR5. Plus, 5.1 sound! the only way to fly....

 

From what I can see on the forum, there's a lot of X52 profiles for the A-10, that I can pick from.

 

thanks for the insight.

 

kind regards,

 

-Jav

[javelina1]

My bad, should also note that I run BMS in "Windows mode", and use the native app capability to extract for the MFD's. Yes, it is an FPS hog at that point, but having external MFD's functional with a sim is awesome.

 

I hope to build out a nice Quasi pit that can accommodate DCS/BMS.

 

No doubt, I've got a bit of research now on DCS, to determine the requirements for the MFD's.

 

Though I was impressed at how DCSW picked up my X52, and combat rudder pedals, to work in a default mode with the Toad.

 

BMS took a little effort to get things configured appropriately, but they're working like a charm now. :thumbup:

[pacotito]

I would also recommend one of the R9 video cards. I myself am looking to get the 290. As for monitor setup here is a good place to start.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=89282

[javelina1]

I would also recommend one of the R9 video cards. I myself am looking to get the 290. As for monitor setup here is a good place to start.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=89282

 

thanks! :thumbup:

[BitMaster]

Hey,

 

just wanted to throw my 2 cents in regarding graphic adapters currently available.

 

The ATI R-2xx is a lot louder than the Nvidia's of today, also many vendors have problems with cooling paste on the "R" boards so I would wait on the ATI until u get another card-layout that uses NON-generic layout with a different cooling-paste and fan layout. Those cards are about to hit the market.

 

Read Tom's Hardware page regarding this matter.

 

The card/chip itself must be awesome, if there weren't the heat collapses and noise !

 

In general, over years with multi-OS systems, I tend to pick NV since they have a far better driver support throughout the lifetime of a card. Also if you sometimes mess with Linux, I`d go Nvidia.

 

Bit

[javelina1]

Hey,

 

just wanted to throw my 2 cents in regarding graphic adapters currently available.

 

The ATI R-2xx is a lot louder than the Nvidia's of today, also many vendors have problems with cooling paste on the "R" boards so I would wait on the ATI until u get another card-layout that uses NON-generic layout with a different cooling-paste and fan layout. Those cards are about to hit the market.

 

Read Tom's Hardware page regarding this matter.

 

The card/chip itself must be awesome, if there weren't the heat collapses and noise !

 

In general, over years with multi-OS systems, I tend to pick NV since they have a far better driver support throughout the lifetime of a card. Also if you sometimes mess with Linux, I`d go Nvidia.

 

Bit

 

I do tinker with Linux, from time to time. RH, Fedora, and then the BSD's as well; FreeBSD & OpenBSD. :thumbup:

 

agreed, for the other O/S's, you stand a better chance of native support with NV.

[joey45]

I believe there are 3rd party coolers that work just as good............ I think.

[javelina1]

Just installed A-10C.... Looks great! unfortunately, can't fly in it today. heading out to family, (for thanksgiving). will give this bird a go tomorrow. :thumbup: (nice deal at Steam)

[javelina1]

It is great! glad I bought it. managed to get everything dialed in. (MFD's, controls, etc).

 

what an awesome sim. thanks DCS! :thumbup:

[KennethBF]

A-10 A = FC3 "Arkade" simulator

A-10 C = DCS Full simulator

 

I have been away from this forum for a while, and I can see that meny has commented on my coments.

 

But read my words, it is written >FC3 "arkade" simulator<. Useing this >""< symbols around the word does not say that i think it is arkade, but more arkadeish.... Said in other words.. It's a more simplified simulator.

 

Simulators comes in a wide vareities. Some are more realistic than others. Some has god physics, and some has god system simulations, some has got both of it.

 

I do not think FC3 is a bad simulator, but it is more "arcade" than the other(DCS). "Everyone" knows this.

 

Yes I may step on someones toes when I say this.... But maybe it is because they do not master or do not have time to learn the "high end" modules.

 

Some people like to fly Arma and battelfield, and some like to fly DCS A-10 C