Alfa Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Do you know what RVV stands for? RVV-AE = РВВ-AE in cyrillic РВВ for "Ракета воздух-воздух" = AAM for "Air-to-Air Missile" Did you know that the AMRAAM is a RVV type of missile? Obviously. What is the difference between RVV-AE and RVV-SD? Range mainly - the RVV-SD is a little longer and heavier indicating a bigger rocket motor, but it probably also has a new seekerhead(9B-1103M). And what is the difference between RVV-AE and R-77? They are practically the same - "R-77" is the original Soviet designation, while "RVV-AE" is the designation for a later export version. Here's the link: http://eng.ktrv.ru/ Why did you ask the questions when you already have a link to the manufacturer's site containing all the answers? JJ
Fjordmonkey Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Why did you ask the questions when you already have a link to the manufacturer's site containing all the answers? You should know the answer to this already :P Then again, I'm not really all that surprised. I mean, we're talking about the guy that called me delusional for claiming that US Carriers and carrier battle groups actually did humanitarian aid-missions, despite plenty of evidence of such things occurring. 1 Regards Fjordmonkey Clustermunitions is just another way of saying that you don't like someone. I used to like people, then people ruined that for me.
Alfa Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 You should know the answer to this already :P Yeah it was a rhetorical question :) JJ
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Why did you ask the questions when you already have a link to the manufacturer's site containing all the answers?Well, the questions were not directed to you. I know that you know the answers. The questions were directed to Nola. Also, the site does not answer all the questions I asked Nola. For example, the site does not answer the question about the meaning of the "AE" in the "RBB-AE". Also the site does not mention R-77 at all. I posted the link for Nola's reference. Come on, Alfa! :smilewink: Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Then again, I'm not really all that surprised. I mean, we're talking about the guy that called me delusional for claiming that US Carriers and carrier battle groups actually did humanitarian aid-missions, despite plenty of evidence of such things occurring. All right. You convinced me. The purpose of the US Carriers and carrier battle groups is to provide humanitarian missions. :doh: BTW, I offer my apology to you if I called you delusional, publicly, here on this forum. 1 Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Fjordmonkey Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 All right. You convinced me. The purpose of the US Carriers and carrier battle groups is to provide humanitarian missions. :doh: BTW, I offer my apology to you if I called you delusional, publicly, here on this forum. I never said that their PURPOSE was humanitarian aid. I said that they COULD, and DID, render such aid when able and it suited the US Government. Very different. Regards Fjordmonkey Clustermunitions is just another way of saying that you don't like someone. I used to like people, then people ruined that for me.
pepin1234 Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 My part of "trolling" pic from this site. http://bastion-karpenko.ru/r-27p/ :D:D:D Could be only one part of the kake :D:D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
kk0425 Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 I know I'm posting in a troll thread but, why is this an argument?
mvsgas Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 I know I'm posting in a troll thread but, why is this an argument? This same conversations have happened hundred, if not thousands of time, since before I join the forums in 2007. Same guys ( mostly) over and over. Is funny now. I admire their dedication to their convictions. I want to be like them when I grow up ( lol, I am 35 now :D ) To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
ShuRugal Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 I agree. However, this picture is not good enough to satisfy Nola's and some other forum members standard. Because not all of the missiles are fully combat operational type. And indeed, it is just F-18, not F-15. To satisfy Nola's standard we need a picture of the F-15C MSIP II with 8 fully combat ready AMRAAM's. And that's not all ... mate, there's an enormous difference between proving a possible loadout on a specific aircraft, and proving the operational existence of an entire piece of ordinance. I've just spent (read: wasted) the last ten minutes skimming this thread to see what the fuss is all about... No one is disputing the capability of russian aircraft to carry and fire R-77 missiles. What everyone you are arguing with is saying has nothing to do with whether or not russian planes which can carry the R-77 exist. They are questioning the existence of any operational R-77 missiles in the first place. In another post, you said there would be no picture of a russian ac with a live R-77 equipped because there is no reason they would ever put one in the air... except, you know, for testing, training against target drones, and, oh yeah, the half a dozen conflicts Russia has had a direct hand in since the missile has been developed...
Presing Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 R-77(or what ever name is in use) was not in operational use in Russian air force. But it is in operational use in India. Happy New Year guys (trolls) :-D Rocket brigade who retired F-117
mvsgas Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Thanks, same to you...wait, Am I a troll? :D To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Boberro Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Could be only one part of the kake :D:D Didn't you know that "kake is a lie!"? :D Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
pepin1234 Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Didn't you know that "kake is a lie!"? :D Wait and prove it in real life. You will see a lot of portions kakes flying and Impacting the fuselage of some west aircraft. :lol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
karambiatos Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Wait and prove it in real life. You will see a lot of portions kakes flying and Impacting the fuselage of some west aircraft. :lol: The kake is not in operational use, a chef i know said that. A 1000 flights, a 1000 crashes, perfect record. =&arrFilter_pf[gameversion]=&arrFilter_pf[filelang]=&arrFilter_pf[aircraft]=&arrFilter_DATE_CREATE_1_DAYS_TO_BACK=&sort_by_order=TIMESTAMP_X_DESC"] Check out my random mods and things
pepin1234 Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 The Meringue of this kake ( seeker head ) is already made. The Chef should only add this important part. ;-) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Alfa Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Well, the questions were not directed to you. I know that you know the answers. The questions were directed to Nola. Also, the site does not answer all the questions I asked Nola. For example, the site does not answer the question about the meaning of the "AE" in the "RBB-AE". Also the site does not mention R-77 at all. I posted the link for Nola's reference. Come on, Alfa! :smilewink: Ok :) In regards to the meaning of "AE" - the "A" is for "Active"(denoting that it is ARH). I am not sure about the meaning of the "E" suffix in relation to the RVV-AE though - for the R-27ER it is for "high-energy"(or something like that) denoting the increased power of the rocket motor, while in other cases it stands for "Export". BTW the "RVV-SD" abbreviation - "РВВ-СД" in cyrillic stands for: "Ракета воздух-воздух - средней дальности" i.e. "Air-to-air missile - medium range". The site doesn't mention "R-77" because its the old Soviet designation for an earlier iteration of the missile, while the RVV-AE is considered a different product(specifically for export). JJ
Presing Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Thanks, same to you...wait, Am I a troll? :D I do not know you can check http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Troll :thumbup::D Rocket brigade who retired F-117
mvsgas Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 I do not know you can check http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Troll :thumbup::D Thank God, I am not one...close but I don't have horns. Thanks budy. :smartass::D To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Vekkinho Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Alfa, E is for Export... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Alfa Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Alfa, E is for Export... Yes I think so too. JJ
F l a n k e r Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Mhmm, there is not an official source that clarifies what the "AE" are for. I don't think is for export (экспорт) nor energia (энергия) and neither Arab Emirates (Арабские Эмираты, yes some source claims that: http://forums.airbase.ru/2011/07/t65654,3--rakety-novogo-veka.9962.html), becouse of the latin "E". Edited December 31, 2013 by F l a n k e r
NRG-Vampire Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Alfa, E is for Export... no, E is for Extended range
ФрогФут Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 no, E is for Extended range Only for R-27:) "Я ошеломлён, но думаю об этом другими словами", - некий гражданин Ноет котик, ноет кротик, Ноет в небе самолетик, Ноют клумбы и кусты - Ноют все. Поной и ты.
F l a n k e r Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Only for R-27:) Yes, indeed is Р-27ЭР (R-27ER) with the Э probably stands for энергия (energy).
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