If that is what you wish to believe
Nope I understand that. But you somehow think that in my situation that I was going to fly straight into the archer. Nope, I used my brain and let the archer fly into a hill.
Thats because they did fire. I was clear about that. But them firing has nothing to do with it. Its WHEN and WHERE they fired, that does.
Key word is the opponent CAN run the missle to the ground, not that he DID.
Yes, in fact you did. Your exact quote: "So bottom line, it doesn't matter how you killed 5 F-15s or Flankers, you should've died, no matter how good you and your friend are"
Sorry but you are wrong. There are situations that dont agree with you. And it doesnt matter how well the 120 is modelled, it will still run into a hill if not fired in the right situation.
The logic is flawed because a bad pilot does not fire when he should, and so the good pilot will manuever to put a hill between him and the missle. Why is this so hard for you to grasp. I am not arguing how good the missle modeling is, or anything else. Physics still applies, hills stop missles.
I never said otherwise.
I never argued this either.
My only arguement is, that if an F15 or an Su27 is inept enough to fire his missle low, at a low target, with plenty of hills between them, he should expect his missle to hit one of those hills. And if he loses sight of the target, and continues on his merry way, he should expect to get an R73 in the face from nowhere.
And no matter how much you correct the modelling, aint gonna change that.
And as Weta43 shows, the Su25T gets shot down a LOT! As it should. And I have never suggested it wouldnt. But, there are situations that are outside the norm. And I described one of them. But continue to argue it, but I wont, I know what happened, and I know it had nothing to do with the modelling of the missile or anything besides a few bad choices.