rattler

Yes, simplified but the point is, as of now cockpits such as these will not work without the co-operation of ED. We stand and wait. If you pay attention to some of the responses in threads here, we could be standing a long time. God knows I hope this is not true.:(

Hmm, be careful. Anyway this pit will not work in FC2 as you will have No mfd's no hud and gauge needles are going to be present as all of this is hard coded. Looks great but will not work.:music_whistling:

Damn shame all this great work being done and can't use it. I know the time you must have spent on this and not able to add it to FC2 or any previous versions is disappointing to say the least. Hope ED is watching and now that A10 is nearly finished, maybe give some help to modders who do this kind of work for the community. I hope something is done to allow great additions such as this to have working in FC2. Pete

Well done!! Now you have to wait for ED to provide additional help in order for the hud and mfd's to work.:cry: Sorry, we are all in the same boat. Nice work. pete

Thanks G, appreciated. Have a great day. rattler

Agreed. I don't want to put you on the spot so if you don't answer, it's ok. now this is for FC2. Could we se 3rd party involvement or plug-ins released to let modders at least do something with pits a FM. that would be contingent on FC being declared EOL of course. cheers. G. that's it from me.:thumbup:

I think that's a given, hee hee. That's a not go there subject.:D

I would say it might have to do with the Ubisoft envolvement with Lockon, whether it extends to FC2, I guess only ED could answer that. Nice to know info though, thanks. rattler

Hi guy's well I will not try to be long with this. If time was not spent on the start up clickablility of the cockpit to get airborne, how much time would be saved?(not giving a short way of doing this because this compounds the problem). I don't know but I am sure time could be picked up here for more important things. Do the basics as in FC2 and put much need resources on the MFD, combat and FM and Missels etc., development. Fc2 is fast movers and it will be a long time before we see a fast mover in DCS unless ED has a military contract. So to say FC2 does not fill a gap is incorrect. It certainly does. We always come back to ED resources, which are limited as we all have been told. The only fighter sim. ED has is FC2 older or not. Does a great job.Not fancy with clickable pit but don't sell it short. We all know how long it takes to get Falcon up in the air from ramp start and I am sure KA50 and the A10 will be no different. Not sec's. Now for god sake don't think this is a shot at ED, it is not. They have done a great job with DCS and the lockon series. I expect that will never change in coming modules but let's face it, to produce a module takes a very long time, longer if no outside contract. Understandable, they have to stay in business and god knows we don't want to lose them. You all mention A10 is out but really, it is not. It is a beta version, that the community is testing for ED. Am I wrong? Ka50 still has bug issues to address and outside contracts presents us with a long waiting period for next module what ever it will be. Could 3rd person outsourcing or even providing plug-ins for FC2 fill a much needed gap. Well only ED can answer that. No I am not asking just throwing some ideas out. ED is the company and these are their products. However it does not stop the consumer about, at least thinking of these things. Hence the threads. Ok sorry, I meant to keep it short. The end. rattler

Hi crunch: Nice idea, I could go for that. I don't want it to easy though. I will use FalconAf for an example: has ramp start. Well I think you will find that after a short while of waiting 10min. before you can move a/c that most Falconners either start at taxi, button on runway or in the air. what is important is the MFD clickable pit for combat. Also realistic FM once in the air.lol. I am not sure how long it takes to get the KA50 off the ground but to me this is the area that could be more easier. Does this make since?:) rattler

update Hi guy's: Had some spare time so went to work on the F-18 pit for the F-15. This is still a WIP but here is a couple of pics. Give me a shout if you want it.

Well lets say you have made that very clear in the past and most of us know and understand ED's position. However, yes there is an however as stupid as I am to get into this. Am I the only one that sees the benefits of keeping FC2 updated or at least supported by the community. DCS is a very nice, well ok great simulator, but it takes a lot of time to produce a module as we have now witnessed with the KA-50 and now the A-10. There is a fan base that by the time we see a fighter in DCS, we will be at the end of our flight sim. careers for want of a better word. I watched a program on the Military Channel the other nite about the A10 and Iraqi. It is extremely difficult to maintain SA was the line of thought in this program, when pilots are in combat. The A10 and I will also say the KA50, is saturation overload in combat. This was agreed upon by ex military pilots who flew the A10. Now back to us. How real do we need these sims. to be? FC2 fills a gap very nicely and is still today the choice of the Virtual Aerobatic Teams as well as those who fly the fast moving fighters. I would say that as of today FC2 still has no equal. This should be supported by at least the community and in my own humble opinion ED, as well. I am sure it still generates revenue, although not what ED would deem sufficient to continue with. So the short of it is, as a community at least lets see FC2 supported by our modders who do fantastic work. That's it folks. My long 2 cents worth. rattler

Thanks aaron, too bad. Cheers and thanks.

It's the efa f18 mod, I think they just made the f-18 flyable. Not sure though.

yup, I figured that but for some reason it will not work on the player a/c, wingman, everything works perfect.Hmm, now where to look. thanks.

Hi; Is there a key command to raise the front leading edge?

This is it This is what is done. I have to get back to other projects but at least this should help a little. If you want it give me a shout and I will see you get it. cheers. Pete

Hi Crunch: I should have said replace the F-18 keyboard. the F-18 does have folding wings and has the tailhook and does land on carrier. I think I took it from the EFA mod. It has the f-15 cockpit but uses some of the commands such as folding wings and tailhook and was just wondering, if it can do that, can it be possible to also find a way of getting a/g keys working. May not get harm working but thought maybe dumb bombs and rockets may be possible. Maybe not but if some options work surely there must be a way of getting some a/g features working. At least I thought it might be food for thought seeing as we have an F-18 partially working correctly. Thanks for the feedback, appreciated. Pete

Hi guys Question: have the f-18 using f-15 cockpit. Can you set it up for a/g. If you toke the keycomands file for the mig29g or su33, called it f-15 keyboard in the config\input\aircraft section, would you have a/g available with the f-15 cockpit? I know you would probably have the commands available but would they work? Any thoughts appreciated. Thanks:smartass:

hee hee obviously.:doh:

lonecrow Look around for lockon Gold. You may find those on e-bay as well or even in a computer store like Future Shop, etc. somewhere that sells games, but I have seen them on e-bay for really good prices. Good Luck hope you find one.:)

He may be refering to the case.;) We all know there are 2 discs but in 1 case. Benefit of doubt.:music_whistling:

hey bud: try using nvidia inspector to set up your card. If you have already, give me a shout tomorrow and I can give you mine. Not for the 460 though but should work all the same. Cheers. Pete

Well guys I don't have your problem but I do have this error error loading library please check whether powerbuilder accessibility library can be located in the path. I have had the hdd reformated and a complete reinstall of verion 1.02 and version1.12b, then FC2. both are in my c:\, under c:\lockon flaming cliffs 2 and c:\modman. I have tried modman 7.2 and 7.3, still same problem and can't seem to find any answers on the internet other than it has been a problem in the past but no fix has been mentioned. Left message for skypat but no answer. So if someone has an idea on this one as well, I would appreciate it. rattler

Work so Far Hi : This is the work so far. If people are interested even though it is on the F-15, please let me know and I will upload to lockonfiles.com when finished. Remember this is just a 2d pit. This is just meant to take away some of the feel of the F-15 pit while flying the F-18. Thanks. rattler