Wyvern

all training missiles in China are either blue or white with the yellow stripe. Doesn't mean much however, as this is a different excercise, we dont know when that picture was taken. It is known that that the J-11A is going through a MLU program, similar to how the F-16 got running upgrades. We simply dont know to what extend those upgrades came. All that we know is that there is upgrades. That can also mean that the plane recieved a completely new cockpit and/or avionics package. We dont know how the MAWS is integrated. Possible that it simply uses the one extra screen, also possible that the plane recieved a completely new system. But again, there is no solid info on this, so nobody knows for sure.

Thats the problem, nobody really knows. Until there is actual evidence for it, they wont be added. While yes, the J-11As are being upgraded, it is unknown how much, and what exactly. So without proper information on it, we wont see anything coming to it

what are you even talking about? I've seen you talk weird bs like that across multiple posts, trying to claim things that arent true, without properly researching what youre even saying. Please for the love of god, dont derail topics by spreading misinformation or by posting things that arent part of the conversation. I get youre trying to improve DCS, just like everyone else here. But just claiming things and making them look like absolute facts! is not the way. Try to keep that in mind, thank you.

But thats the thing, it didn't have any native chinese weapons. The only one is the PL-12. There is pictures of an J-11A carrying what appears to be an PL-12. but asides from the tip of the missile, we dont know for sure. Two more possibilities are the PL-8, although i dont know if there is any source of it being used on the J-11A. The other missile may be the YJ-91 (chinese license built Kh-31P). That being said, I know that the J-11B is capable of employing it, but as for the J-11A, its unlikely, as the J-11A lacks the systems needed for it. The closest there is, are Chinese built R-77s and R-27s, but those were identical with the russian ones, although supposedly they were downgraded export variants.

the yellow one is not an J-11A, this most likely is a J-16 or Su-30MKK prototype, as the none of the J-11s have the inner wing pylons. As for the other pic on the left, its possible that they got upgraded later to carry TV and SEAD weapons, but there is no official and/or trustworthy source that confirms that

ill take a look

compare how the missile tits in those pictures The R-77 in the middle is much further back/shorter than the PL-12 in the picture above. It also cant be an R-27, as that has a completely different shape. Lastly, NO, the J-11 can not carry 6x R-27ETs, as those pylons do not have the ability to mount the neccessairy Cooling unit for the missile. What you see it a transfer loadout.

That may have to do with the glass on the cockpit being slightly tinted

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From what I've been told, yes.

Except the pictures you show have different missiles on them. The shape of the head is different between the RVV-AE, and the missile carried on the J-11A in the pictues. Plus the Writing seems to be different. At last, you cant see whether it is an J-11A or J-11B in the 2nd picture.

Basically what's in the title, video attached, can make a Trk, but i think its simple enough to reproduce: put a plane at Contrail altitude, look at it, zoom in and out in F1 view. The contrails start to disappear and appear at certain FOV. Digital Combat Simulator 2024-05-25 09-23-19.mp4 In this case it is an E-3, at 35k ft, less than 20NM away

I am not breaking a single rule by telling you to let people talk about a topic. because the developent of the JF-17 (and J-8) is more important.

just turn 90° and drop chaff. At close range, turn away and dive. Phoenixes are a joke. Not really... I honestly have no clue what you are talking about. (yes I do have 2k hours with the Su-27/J-11A in DCS)

heh... I like that reply

That is not a J-15. The J-15 has a completely different cockpit, system, and loadout. They cant just add a different cockpit and call it a day with some fantasy "j-15" The PL-15 mod is completely unrealistic and based on a guess. That would also be more complicated than it seems, and wouldnt be worth the time. To the AMRAAM, yeah no.. the only people that are really complaining about the AIM-120, are the ones that dont know how to fight it. I mean, it honestly just sounds like you got shot in growling sidewider, and are angry now, that since 2009, you still havent learned how to fight AIM-120s properly. They are a good idea, even if they are a slightly missed opportunity. Yes, maybe there is more interesting aircraft, but this will bring more people towards cold war era combat, which is generally the direction that DCS is going in currently, as there simply is more avaiable info. Not to mention that Flaming Cliffs was not supposed to recieve any updates at all. Give it time, they just recently decided to expand on flaming cliffs.

As far as I know, this is not true anymore, the J-11A is being handled by ED by now. There will be a reason why it is that way. There were actual plans for an upgraded J-11A, which had to be paused for an uncertain time, due to multiple complications, and the focus shifting onto the JF-17. Then why are you here? This is a forum, nobody forces you to "waste time" on here. Let people talk if they want to talk.

What? Do you have a source for that? I'd love to see how that is true.

A thing you can do (what I do to have a more stable takeoff) Once you rotate and get off the ground, push the stick forward for a fraction of a second (as if youre counter steering in a car) If done right, you should have lower AoA after take off, and a (very) slightly faster acceleration Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

That's because the plane is heavy. Under those conditions. 60% fuel would be a normal fuel load, while 100% fule is comparable to an F-16 or F-18 with extra Fuel tanks. Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

i have converted most of the Su-27 Skins to the J-11A in the past, I still need to update them, but I will let you know once i did that!

Interestingly, there also is this:

Yes you can, we tried. It works surprisingly well actually

okay sorry to be rude, but I dont have much patience today. Can you please try to properly read the post? Nobody said anything about Air to Ground combat. yes, the JF-17 the most modern aircraft in DCS, as it is a 2005-2008 model. When doing AIR TO AIR, with an AIR TO AIR loadout, the J-11A will outperform the JF-17. The message i sent was an reply to him saying the JF-17 will outperform the J-11A, in the SPECIFIC CONTEXT of AIr to Air combat with the SD-10/PL-12. Meanwhile youre just talking about something else. Nobody here ever said the J-11A can do better AG. We were simply talking about the Air-to-Air capabilites, SPECIFICALLY comparing their performance when carrying the PL-12/SD-10.

I wasnt trying to prove that the JF-17 is bad, its good in its own roles, I was just trying to show that the J-11A indeed can outperform a JF-17 with that specific loadout, as an answer to schmitdfire's comment. The Jeff will still beat the Flanler in any other role other than Air-Air Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk