Buzpilot

I only said I didn't know when F-16 had it's RWS updated, so please don't put words in my mouth. BTW, I just found out S-300 seems quite better than Patriot, I guess only russia gets the updated stuff.

I have no idea, but I'm only a customer. But I'm expecting ED knows. Oh, you just gave me an idea, I should test this, to see if F-16 AI is just as stupid as the F-15 pilot.

I don't have the data, so you tell me, when did the MIG get RWS updated to include Patriot? I guess there should be facts that ED have? Or have DCS turned into a guestimate sim?

Wasn't aware that everything are supposed to be upgraded to 2012 avionics, was sure it was 15-20 years old at least. So this is for everything, or just those there are available data on? Maybe put up in encyclopedia what year equipment are updated to?

It matters if this is only theortical, or future possibilities. If it didn't matter to me, I would rather go play ufo's in BGO. I really doubt a fighter from 1979 can detect it(or any other LockOn fighter). Signal will get filtered out as noice.

I tested this and different options too, but it seems AI react only when the sarh missile go active, about 15km away, and that's fatal. I remember almost a year ago this ship didn't show at all in RWS, could be it's only fixed for A-10C atm.

I was thinking speed was IAS, so I didn't try putting max speed, was more asking myself if it should been lower speed :) I'm pretty sure the Patriot radar system is AESA like F-22 use, would be a little pointless if a stealty plane only was stealthy with radar on Stand By. The missing reaction from the F-15 led me to believe the Pyotr was invisible, so I started thinking the radar systems was possibly shifted. But after I put in the A-10C to see, I was able to get RWS warning, was even able to close into it, like track will show. Why do the F-15 ignore it? Recon Track.trk

How can a MIG25 see the Patriot system? And why don't F-15 dive to ground like MIG25 did, inside search area? also, why is the Engagement range for Patriot only 100km, should be 160km. And Search range should be 170km instead of 160km MIG-25RBT First flight 1979. F-15E introduced april 1988.

I could work out a detailed list, but with this 'nobody cares' attitude, I'll just mention a couple. MIG-25RBT Service ceiling 24200m or 80,667 feet F-15E Service ceiling 18200m or 60,667 feet All AI set to High, Recon waypoints all above 60,000feet, MIG >65,000 F-15 >62,000 Both start loosing altitude and use afterburner trying to keep it, at around 55,000 feet MIG ignores altitude waypoint, and dives with afterburner, seems it's capable of detecting Patriot Radar. F-15E Struggle to keep altitude, loosing speed and altitude slowly ,at 39,000feet speed 285, Pyotr fires 2 missiles about 40nm away. And hits F-15 with first one, every time. The Patriot system ignore MIG, passing at 10nm,and 820m altitude, speed 611 . The advanced options here is different, maybe I need to put plane on some sort of kill list? Edit; I forgot a couple trucks, still MIG detected Patriot radar, without power supply truck :music_whistling: Nothing wrong at all?

I guess you didn't even look to see, I put one recon on each side, a A-10C would not even get a warning, until missiles turn their own radar on. But the other side gets advantage by having even AI to see whats supposed to be invisible. Looks like the old russian ship have AESA radar, but Patriot use a 'old' radar system. Look here from 8:00 if you are not sure how patriot radar works. Edit; Wasn't me that put this into Mission builder's corner, maybe it should been moved to bug list thread?

How many errors? :helpsmilie: Kind of disappointing for advanced mission building. Tried to see if Recon planes would work, instead of just change mission with trigger. MIG 25 detects AESA radar? Cntl+Z for fast forwarding. Shift+Z for normal speed. recon test Mission.miz

You have 1.1.1.1 version? Slightly edited to make SA-11 missiles launch too. SAM SA-11 test.miz SAM SA-11 test.rar

Try advanced waypoint' ALARM STATE=RED state Deploy ' A little strange, but Search radars don't deploy until enemy enters search area. Edit; Auto Deploy works too, was getting confused by the slow deploy. Probably what EtherealN hinted. SAM SA-11 test.miz

F-35 JSM Joint Strike Missile, produced in Norway. http://www.kongsberg.com/en/kds/products/missile%20systems/jointstrikemissile/

F-35A During testing, the strength and stability of the aircraft structure were verified to 150 percent of design limits or 13.5 G's (force of gravity), with 174 critical load conditions, or pressures, applied to the airframe to evaluate its structural integrity. http://www.f-16.net/news_article4113.html

Not to derail this into a pissing contest, but that during practise and a F4 crash in a air show, compared to how many MIG29,SU27's during airshows, not even counting mid air pilot error crashes, too many to put up a sad list from youtube :( (I started but I gave up, too many sad vids)

Just an observation, to have a 10,000m altitude range, I would expect much bigger missiles. Or a booster at least. And If I should believe all I read, according to DCS Encyclopedia a F/A 18C has 7G capability, but you don't see many falling down on airshows, but other 9G fighters ( according to DCS Encyclopedia ), do fall down, relative often. Just an observation.;)

Watching Pantsirs in action, I doubt they would spank much more than older systems, only looks and probably is lot cheaper. But I guess Syria would like a lot of them nowadays :music_whistling: http://en.rian.ru/video/20100420/158667290.html So cruise missiles fly at 3-400m now?

So why is it still backwards if this is a known issue?:megalol:

Only problem with 500$, is that number of buyers would drop to 1%, and we get a sim worth only 5$. A good sim can be free, with a possibility to pay for expansions, like RoF, there you get upgrades for free and you only pay for extra cockpits.

If I can expect beeing able to practise snap roll or a hammerhead with flat spin, like in this video, I'll order it day one for sure :pilotfly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuipnDc7dms

I would love a 64 bit WW2 sim, but pvp with P51 only, I'm not yet sure if thats something to enjoy, could be fun. Hope there will be AI 190 or 109 at least.

I almost fell down on the floor when i read this :) But a Mig15 in DCS standard would be great! anything less should be a FC addon. Edit; In retrospect, It's maybe the best choice anyway, after all other ww2 sims still go 32bit, and this will limit the fun there.

20$ it's probably worth, but I bet it will be 20Euro on Steam, because Steam don't see the difference....

To make it clear to you, if it's possible, I don't like the price because it has double standard, two different prices is not normal for exactly same product. Would be like buying Gold in USA, and then sell it to Europe, and earning lots of money this way, but as we all know this is not normal.:megalol: And why i doubt you get this, you use the expences for package a reason to why Steam has to keep higher price, still puzzles me.