NineLine
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The first purge of this new thread has happened, you can find all the messages in the old thead here: Also, I want to note, we are doing our best to moderate fairly, if we miss something feel free to report it. Also note, if you had something hidden or even received a warning chances are someone else did too, you cannot see other people's warnings or moderation, as such you should only worry about your own behaviour, especially in this thread. There is nothing new, getting the radar is still a priority and hope to have it resolved shortly. Nothing else is new as far as how talks are going, but they are going but at lawyer speeds. Thanks all for your understanding.
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This is different than the VEAO situation, and I hope for a better outcome all around.
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I am a fan of AI co-pilots\WSO\Whatever as well to be totally honest.
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I am moving older parts of this thread into the previous thread to clean it up. Its become lots of nothing once again.
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The point is you are claiming to be repeating information directly from Ron, and I don't think that is a good look when none of it has been made as a public statement and only further tries to lay blame or label one side as the bad guy. You may not agree that is your intent, but it's how it reads in my opinion. As well suggestion that RB's DIscord is a friendly inviting place for both sides of the conversation is a little bit of s stretch as well. Like it or not you are seen as a representative of RB based on your title and your activity on their Discord, your words carry more weight, I am asking you to be more careful with your words, someone saying something wrong on these forums in your mind is no worse than all the times I have seen the wrong things said by users on the RB Discord, you do not need to feel the need to correct them or set them right. Everyone is allowed their opinion. Let them have it.
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I'll most likely flush this thread again soon.
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People are all sharing their opinions, including you, but everyone will get a nudge if they keep repeating the same things over and over in the hopes they will stick. I do not see anyone shutting down narratives but only replying with their opinions, as I said above. If RB Management wants to make a statement we will include it in the original post, otherwise, this is all opinion from all here.
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If this is now a legal matter and if you are indeed sharing confidential information given to you directly from Ron, I am not sure I would go about publicly bragging about that. Most lawyers do not enjoy clients' public sharing of information (even via proxy) during legal proceedings. I know the full story of course from the perspective of my team. I am pretty confident I am not being lied to, call me naive but I have had a long and loyal relationship with Nick and the team and I have no concern at all that any of them, including if Nick is leading me down a false path. So maybe you do not have confidence in your information, but I have confidence in my management team. So unless Ron is giving you official information to be shared as official comments on his behalf, please let's drop the guessing and theories, because if you do not have high confidence in that, then this is all that is. Thanks.
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If anything major happens it will be an announcement from our Management and/or RAZBAM management. I will update the 1st post with it, but you will see it highlighted elsewhere, you will not see major news intermingled in this discussion, it would get lost. At some point, I will refresh this thread by moving the discussion out to the old thread and just leaving the OP. Thanks.
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That is an early access discount it is not involved in the sale. You and Skates need to go have a DM chat, you guys are talking about hypothetical and theoretical things here that do nothing other than confuse people looking for simple information and updates. Neither of you know fully what is going on and guessing will just make you go crazy. This situation has been going on longer than public knowledge and things have been happening that led to what we are seeing now. We just need to hold the line. It's their official Discord for their company, I would hope it would reflect them as much as possible. I do not think it does right now sadly. I understand the hard feelings but sometimes too much can be too much and moderation can be done without suppressing disappointment in the situation.
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WINWING also announced a FFB base as well, seems pretty cool so far, but I am OT Went to the 'petting zoo' as well.
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We prefer people hold on and hope for the best but all things considered I understand those that can't.
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For the older module if this went the absolute worst case scenario they would remain as they are with no updates but continue to work. As feature complete modules this is all that is guaranteed even best case scenario although obviously if RB comes back and they decided to update or improve they could Right now store credit. I am in Vegas at the Flight Sim Expo. Moderation at the best of times is a lot of work and had I been home and on my computer I would have attempted to moderate. Right now though we are seeing small groups campaigning for comment and review bombing so any moderation currently is extra work. I know these people think they are in some way helping but it won't speed this process up but if they are happy to give me and BN extra work then that's what me and him are here for.
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Many things about the legal process do not make sense, but we are committed to following them in the interest of not causing further delays. We hope the radar issue will be resolved. It's at a point where caution has to be taken and the proper steps need to be followed, is rooting around in their code at this point would not be the right approach so I hope it can be fix via other means.
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I have previously asked if any requests have been made to remove any products and was told no. And as I understand making any changes to how it is selling would not be a good move on our part. So again unless either side makes an official announcement to the public it's not useful here, I hope you can understand why.
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I am saying he doesn't speak officially for RAZBAM. And we are trying to keep things to official communication.
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I just said worst case scenario the older modules will continue that work, the F-15E I am not sure hence us offering a refund. There will be no official statement on this as such because both sides are still working on this so there is no need to assume we are at the point of no return.
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The M2000 and other older modules continue to work as expected. The F-15E radar bug was an issue with in the code of the module and we hope it will be fixed as well. The comment you shared are not an official statement from RAZBAM and should not be taken as such, many people do not have the full story and won't because it's in lawyer hands now
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Please don't make statements like this unless the RAZBAM management has publicly announced this. If they haven't then you should not be talking about any lawyer communication at all, I have no way of confirming this but your status as SME makes a segment of the community believe you are some sort of spokesperson. That's simply not true, we care a lot but this situation needs to be dealt with, I also have assurances from our team we will do everything we can to make sure the older modules do not go the way of the Hawk, no matter how this ends
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I am sure everything is clearly laid out for both teams to discuss at this point
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This comment is not helpful here. Please let's not go down this path again, further silliness like this will be removed.
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Again, assuming and guessing, key pieces of the issues are missing. The details of the IP claims, etc. When you start discussing and it doesn't add up it means you don't have all the info. Please take note of this, everyone.
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I would assume so. Although we are also assuming it started 10 months ago leaving out the reason for the pay stoppage leading to Ron's announcement. So much assuming, and you know what they say about that. None of this does and probably why lawyers are involved. None of this can be looked at in simple terms, if it was simple we wouldn't be here now running up another 94 page thread.
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That's pretty much why this stuff happens I suppose, each side thinks they've run out of options and makes a move they think they have to or have been forced into. It's impossible to second guess without all the facts though, a solution in private would have been great but we are past that now sadly. You are welcome, I know it doesn't fix things but I hope it makes it easier to find the latest official info.
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I am worried about all possible outcomes, but cheering for the absolute best.
