Cobra360

Wouldn't mind seeing the guncam of the F-15J that accidently shot down his own wingman who was acting as an enemy with an AIM-9L in a training dogfight with live weapons.

The Brimstone was ment to be fitted to the Harrier GR9 before the the AGM-65, but for OIF the AGM-65 was quickly intergrated at the last minute to the deployed Harrier GR9s. The RAF pilots liked it so much that the Maverick was given priority over the Brimstone to be intergrated first on to the entire RAF Harrier fleet before the Brimstone. The Tornado GR4s are almost cleared for Brimstone use and will be able to carriy up to 12 of them.

I've been flying sim since JF-15 came out. And no offence intended but from your post you looked like another one of those people who don't like sims and are only here slamming the game when they should be playing Ace Combat on the PS2. I judged a book by the cover because of your post count. I apologise.

You will never see AGM-114Ls on the A-10. As the A-10 would need a MMV radar to use them and a AGM-65 is a better missile for fighters to use. The AGM-65 are updated with new seekers all the time. This 60s version is the AGM-65A which is not used any more. The AGM-65 is fire and forget unless you happen to be using the AGM-65E laser Maverick. Everything in Lockon right now is used today and some thing that are not. The Su-34 being one of them. You might actually want to try the game before talking about unlevel playing fields.

Where is this MAKS-2005 compilation downloadable from ? Sounds very cool.

Oh yes the Viggen, I'm sorry. I seemed to have hijacked the thread slightly.

But doesn't the F-15 have FDL (fighter data link) as well. I believe the F-14 have a similar data link aswell that will also allow to to recieve information silently from an E-2 or E-3 like the F-15. It only get modeled for the Su-27/33 on lockon though even though it's the same principle of modeling for both sides independant of how it actually works.

I have seen that pic posted by SwingKid. But you know how ED are GG. They want more info and manuals before they model anything, or so they say. I would not mind if they used a little imagination. Just take your example of JF18. And the NCTR feature is highly classified in how that works aswell so ED took some imagination there aswell I see. Something to do with the radar picking up the signature of the turbine blades and what have you.

No, because the F-15 that is modeled in lockon is of an older standard than whats flying today. And a lot of that info is classified in how it works.

Thats not really new, F-14s and F-15s have being doing that for years.

Is that not because they are inert Mavs that have the fins removed, AFAIK it's the same on USAF Mavs.

Yes but it was never effectivly marketed for export. If it was it could have been a big success for Saab. The same could have happen the JAS-39 but the the C/D version came along with NATO standard equipment and IFR to help it achieve some exports.

Sticky::: a few members around here need to read this, sad as it may be.

And if the AH-64 is flyable in TK it will be the first two seat flyable. Just a thought.

I have not found any real A2A online but I have some footage on VHS of an F/A-18C shooting down a MiG-21 in the 1991 Gulf War. It was a flight of 4 Hornets each armed with 4 Mk-84 on a bombing mission to H3. They were then intercepted by a pair of MiG-21s. The Hornets were given warning in time by an E-2C. The MiGs came at them head on at around M1.2. Lt.cdr Mark Fox was leading the flight of Hornets and he go a lock on the first MiG and his wingman locked up the second. As quoted from Lt.cdr Fox ''We quickly switched radar modes from air to ground to air to air and I got a lock on one of the MiGs, they came at us nose on at about M1.2, I fired a Sidewinder followed by a Sparrow, the Sidewinder hit and Sparrow flew into the fireball.'' His wingman got the second, then flight of four then continued on their mission and bombed the airbase. The video actually showed the HUD footage of that kill in black and white.

What I mean is, that for just flying them alone with no combat involved, I find the A-10 and F-15 easier as I don't have to check the dials at all but with a MiG/Su, I have to because the Russian HUDs display less flight information. But for combat, in Lockon I think they are about the same and I don't mind that at all. If it were possible for ED to model the true firing sequence button by button, then bring it on. I'm just stating that IRL western fighters from the same era as Russian ones have a lower pilot work load.

Very true. IRl the procedure for a MiG/Su pilot to lock on to and fire an R-27/77 is a lot more complicated than for even an F-15A pilot to launch an AIM-7. Apperantly Russian pilots have to press a lot more buttons and switches. And western HUDs provide a lot more flight information than Russian ones. I'm not to sure how close they are modeled IRL but in Lockon I can fly the A-10 and F-15 without having to look down into the cockpit as much as I need to when flying the MiG or Flanker.

I'd like it if ED fixed the Su-27's flaperons in the patch aswell.

Try http://www.airliners.net they have great pics of just about every military and civil aircraft.

Yes the Su-27 just has flaperons, while the Su-33 has flaps and ailerons.

That USAF F-16CJ, serial 90-0830 even fired 2 AIM-120s at that MiG-29.

Correction: The last QF-106A was downed by a combination of an AIM-120, 20mm rounds and then an AIM-9M, in January 1998. The goal of these missions was to make the drone last as long as possible, with the aim of taking multiple hits each. I have no links to back up my information, sorry.

Israeli F-15A/B/C/Ds can use JDAMs, Spice and Popeye missiles aswell.

There was the last QF-106 drone that was brought down by a combination of an AIM-120, an AIM-9 and a burst of 20mm rounds, in that order, can't remember if it was by an F-15 or F-16.

They have only two F-14 squadrons left as of now. Both are operating F-14Ds and are on their last cruise now due to end in 2006. The last two are VF-31, the Tomcatters, and VF-213, the Black Lions.