MEH i truely believe the F-22 will win in BVR no doubt! it will own anything probably in BVR but if it even gets close at all to where BVR is not an option of course and its time to go into heaters.... we might have a very good battle on our hands, between the 22 and say a mig-35 or Su-30 MKI i believe that the Migs and Su's will win not with ease but it all comes down to the pilot i believe. i think the aircraft can beat the 22 but it comes down to... the US have a horrificaly more flying and training time than anyone who trains with the Mig or Su so there are so many things to think of and it cannot and will not be proven until it happens in real life... and it wont.... i really hope!