DaveRindner

My controls work fine. It is a problem with F-5E module itself. An aircraft cannot slide sideways for half a click without gear collapse. F-5E does do that. It is a stupid problem in the module, and I am patiently waiting for BST to fix it. From time to time, I like to remind them, becouse after so many updates, the issue remains.

There is still a serious problem in how the aircraft handles during landing run. I am unable to stop from spinning, if I land without drag chute. I am not locking the wheels. At 90-70 the aircraft control is lost, it turns on its own to one direction or other and slides sideways. This is definitely a problem, and a serious issue on Belsimtek's part. Either the breaks are weird, or weight on wheels is wrong, or friction coeffcients are off. Whatever the problem, the issue is in both 1.5.8 and 2.2.0.

Real world IR signature is a dynamic condition. It changes constantly. A simulation in itself, for every potential target. I don't think a consumer sim needs that level of fidelity, and it would suck away FPS. DirectX suppourts, I think, realtime ambient occlusion, and/or realtime spherical harmonics shading. A FLIR imaging could be based on that, and be good enough.

You and me both brother. Hope NWS is fixed so it feels normal. Like in A-10C, and F-15C. Smooth and accurate. I may have posted it before. I beleive there are more then one issue at play. 1. NWS steering gain is excessively high. Or how the friction moment is calculated. 2. Lack of anti-skid(anti-lock) breaks on all three gear wheels. 3. Mass-gravity moment is too low, making the plane react as a much lighter aircraft. So that the weight on wheel is low, causing low friction. May be related with 1. above. One must apply wheel breaks carefully to avoid break lock .. I think the gear break locks up at 50% of wheel breaks applied. Do not land with NWS engaged. Get the aircraft below 70 knots before turning the NWS ON. When turning NWS on, have no rudder deflection.

Very much agree. I will expand to a questionable need to develop training aircraft modules. In RL civ and mil flight school syllabus , a sim of a training airframe is needed, to prepare the student. But in consumer sim market, there is no need. For the most part at least. To a sim noobie, learning basics in AV-8B is perhaps not efficient. So an being proficient in F-5 or Hawk modules is appropriate. UH-1H and KA-50 modules , don't need IMHO, an R-22/R-44 module to prepare them. If the consumer/hobby flight sim market demands specific types, then I am good with that. Now for RL, yes there is a definite need for specific type sim modules. A student cannot go from glider to C-130L conversion, without T- types inbetween. A licenced ATP does need full motion sim time for specific type he or she will be flying. ATR crashes, according, to TSB, had lack of type training, as contributing causes. However in DCS, a C-130J, or C-27J modules, of we ever get them, do not need hobbyist to learn how to fly training type first. Just learn on the type in the module.

You can't. With any helicopter. I have UH-1H and KA-50. I am guessing that Gazelle would be same. Need to check AI, as CH-47, and CH-51 operate from LHA. Setting a start point on ramp (on deck) of Tarawa, places the helicopter in air adjacent to the ship. It is a bug, that hopefully will be addressed. I suspect , this happens, becouse DCS is programmed to place helicopters on deck of Kuz CV or Nimitz Class CVN, with their wider decks. Anyone know if MV-22 is planned addition as AI only?

Approach target with 10 deg azimuth offset, of target's movement's azimuth, with aimpoint just in front of lead vehicle. Assuming a linear march order. Intention is to create an obstacle, that following enemy vehicles have to go around, slowing down the column for subsequent attack. I believe thats how non-precision munitons delivery is taught it US and NATO. But with CBU, just drop them at center of leading 1/3 of enemy column and watch sparks fly, and your FPS drop down to single digits. Exit target area on a heading that minimizes exposure of own jetpipe to the enemy. Normally you would break into the direction from which you approached release point. Drop countermeasures regardless if there is a MANPADS , AAA, or SRSAM threat , with enemy vehicle column. A 10-11 deg. offset is also optimal for synthetic aperture radar imaging, or Doppler Beam Sharpening AG mode. Not applicable to A-10C and of course none of the flyable modules in DCS have SAR, and DCS may not suppourt it in current version. I don't own M2000C module, so maybe that module has advanced AG modes.

MI-24P NATO desig. Hind-F. Fox version of MI-24. I think that is the 1985-1990's variant. With exception of A-10C, every module for DCS is late 1970's to mid '90's. Going by UH-1H, MI-24 will be great. I was surprised to see JF-17 on future module list. JF-17 is equivalent to F-16C/D Block 40/42, perhaps 50. Thats 4++ gen. A Chinese-Pakistan F-16.How are they getting peformance, sensor, avionic data? All of that would be classified by Chinese and Pakistan.

Just sharing my experience. AG weapons vice, the delivery is accurate. Sort of. As long as one meets 4 requirements; Proper Manual Deflection setting, proper speed at release, proper altitude at release, proper slant different at release. The freefall bombs will hit close to to target. Rocket and AG guns, is simillary accurate, to a point. But it is nowhere accurate as CCIP and AG Gun pipper in A-10C, SU-25, or SU-25T. Lack of AG radar weapons delivery contributes to lack of precision. Also even for bomb , the release slant distance to target, put the aircraft within effective AAA and lethal SAM/MANPADS . So attacking even moderately defended targets requires good suppression prior to run.

Well after two+ months of having this module, it has really only one vice. High speed ground handling. The gain on NWS is excessively high and , in RW, would be dangerously sensitive. There is a severe bug in that NWS does not center when turned off, and abruptly snaps if there is rudder deflection when NWS is turned ON/OFF. If aircraft is landed without drag-chute, using breaks only, aircraft will excessively weathervamr and spin on the runway, with or without NWS turned on. I suspect that the flight model weight on wheels is faulty, when on the ground. F-5E has been around long enough as module, for BST to fix this. It really is a glaring error in their work.

Mine are malfunctioning. Basically the rudder axis is stuck on maximum left deflection, and nothing works to clear it. Did the registry reset process , per Logitech. Did the driver uninstall re-install. Tried different USB ports. Nothing works. Device Manager tells me HID and USB drivers for rudder are working fine. Toe breaks work fine. Only the rudder axis is stuck on max-left.

Thank goodness BST acknowledges issue. The faster it is fixed the better.

A F-5E modernization module to F-5F is not a bad candidate for module to module add-on. Bit like that GPS/Radio add-on to Mi-8. F-5F is a real world programme. Increases air-air to 4 missiles of AIM-9M, ECM upgrades, CCIP/CCRP weapons delivery, partial glass cockpit, and embedded GPS intertial navigation.

I beg to differ. With respect of course. The excessive sensitivity combined NWS self-centering issue is faulty. No RL NWS would be developed that way. If it had, F-5's would have had a high mishap rate on landing and TO.

So why, if anyone knows, did Belsimtek implement NWS in such a faulty way? Even worse, why it hasn't been fixed?Something like this is pretty obvious , to make it through alpha and beta phases.

Well once BELSIMTEK fixes NWS F-5E will be even more enjoyable to simfly. Now if they can add an ECM pod and increase countermeasure count, and plumb outer pylons for AA missiles, and allow AIM-9M carriage, then F-5E would be late 1980's, 1990's accurate, and have some chance of survival. Though I was able to successfully evade SA-8 with flares and vertical evasion, two times. Against SA-10, SA-11, SA-15, and SA-19 , I can't do it, aside from not entering engagement zone.

Rudder dead zone, actually makes things worse. As rudder deflection is not even registered by F-5 untill it is out of dZone, and when it does, the sideways jerk, and skid happen even faster and more violently. I do not understand how an aircraft can skid sideways for what seems like 1/2 KM, without gear collapse. My setup is working fine. In UH-1H antiTorque pedal control is excellent. In A-10C it is likewise. In Mig-21bIs rudder use for differential breaking is likewise very good. SU-33D, F-15C, SU-25T, and SU-25, all modules that have 'realistic' FC3 ground handling the control is precise. The rudder control of F-5E is likewise very good in flight, and likewise excellent at runway TO/L speeds to keep AC in straight line above 80 knots. Only when F-5E NWS is activated do the problems begin. I lay this at feet of BELSIMTEK. I am not bashing them. I am very fond F-5E module, only the NWS behavior at high speeds during TO/LN is the issue. This could all be related to oft experienced NWS center-fail issue. It is verifiable. At 60 knot, on runway, activate NWS, and do slight radar deflection. THe aircraft will pull hard. Release NWS, with some rudder deflection, then center rudder. The NWS front gear is still turned, and ac will go into skid, spin or run off the runway. Or , at 60knots, on runway, with NWS off, apply rudder deflection. Then turn on NWS. The aircraft will immediately jerk, shimmy , skid, and spin, as NWS front gear instantaneously turns to rudder deflection. But because the gain on NWS is absurdly high, a small rudder deflection, yielding tiny aerodynamic yaw effect, has dramatic abrupt and uncontrollable gear turn rate. In RL this would get AC decert. NWS systems have variable gain base on ground speed with weight on wheels. Belsimtek's implementation of NWS in F-5Eis faulty.

I have SAITEK (now Logitech) ProFlight pedals and X56. Stick rudder is disabled. System works great with A-10C, KA-50, UH-1, MIG21, and FC3 for NWS control. But in F-5E it is just terrible. Once the shimmy begins, NWS control is lost, aircraft literally skids sideways down the runway into grass, and I am just along for the ride, pedals or wheel breaks have no effect. I am not locking the wheels, wheel break does not exceed 50%. Shimy and sideways skid happen on almost every landing attempt. On landing with touchdown speed of 140 kt, without NWS, the aircraft pulls to left, I compensate with rudder. As aircraft is slowing down, rudder has less and less effect, and aircraft still is pulling to left(sometimes right), at around 80 knots. At 70 rudder has no effect at all, the aircraft is still pulling to the side. Around 65-60 I have to activate NWS, or ac will go into grass at high speed. With wheel break at 50%, and chute open, I activate NWS. AC immediate jerks to the side and goes into sideways skid, regardless of what I do. So I am telling you, and BELSIMTEK, who are willing to listen. NWS is messed up. Perhaps it has to do with nosegear failing to center, or flight model mass/friction interaction of active rigid body with passive rigid (runway) is faulty. I do not know. But I do know that it is not working right, where other modules with detailed NWS(A-10C, and Mig21) work fine.

Well, once again , with respect, I call BS. The aircraft can be lined up perfectly on runway, and as it accelerates it starts to drift to one side or another. Above 50 and below 70 a rudder needs to be used, or aircraft will run off the runway. So in this speed gamut, where NWS is still needed, and rudder begins to have effect, any deflection of the rudder to keep ac straightdown the runway, causes nose jerk to the side, requiring correction. A tiniest rudder correction causes sideways jerk, and ac either runs off the runway or worse it spins like drifting car. The situation is amplified at landing. So I am telling you and BELSIMTEK. NWS is messed up. It could be gain, or it could be mass friction interaction between wheels and runway. Whatever it is, it is messed up. After 2 months of F-5E, and 5 years of DCS and A-10C, FC3, and MIG21, I am pretty sure NWS handling is just wrong. Other users seem to having similar issues. So it is pointless to defend the indefensible. BELSIMTEK did a great job with F-5E. But they got NWS and ground handling wrong slightly. It needs to be fixed. Try landing it without drogue chute with 1/4 fuel, no weapons, 180 knots approach, 150 kn at threshold, 135-140kt touchdown and landing run. Rudder curves do not solve the problem. Mine are set at 25, which is high. But it can be straight linear slope and skidding problem remains. A-10C, F-15C, SU-33, SU-25, SU-25T all implement NWS correctly. If DCS F-5E was implemented in RL F-5, the aircraft would never get certified. It would be too dangerous.

In 1.5.8 (latest) if mission contains more then one LHA (Tarawa) ships. DCS crahes when LHA's are in POV .

No I respectfully disagree/ NWS implementation is poor. It is not a bug, as software does not crash, but the implementation is very bad. Landing with rudder deflection, and having to keep that deflection to keep aircraft rolling down the runway, makes it impossible to prevent a shimy and slide, when speed drops low enough for rudder to start loosing efffectiveness, and activating NWS. As soon as NWS is activated (say at 60 knots) there is sudden jerk to the side that is impossible to compensate for, without aircraft sliding. The culprit is NWS gain, the tinniest deflection (and I mean tinyest) causes overly large NWS steering . My rudder curve is set to 25. But NWS bad behavior remains regardless of rudder curve. Belsimtek, needs to take it back into the shop and give it another look. It is really that bad. A-10C, F-15C have excellent and correct NWS behavior.

A more modern Falklands would be more interesting. Air units for both UK and AR have hardly changed. AR still flies Etendards and A-4R. A-4R is a cool version of A-4, that I would love to have as a module. Basically LM took avionics from F-16C Block 50 (minus APG) and stuffed them into A-4. So cockpit has F-16 HOTAS and color displays. Export version of ALQ-164 . UK , of course, has retired its Harrier force. But that was a cost cutting measure. The airframes are still good, and could be reactivated if called upon. Falklands themselves are small. The whole theater is smaller then Crimea from old school pre- DCS LockON. A modern SAM system covers entirety of islands. Now if neo-Falklands somehow includes mainlands Argentina with Tierra Del Fuego, thats much more interesting.

After two months of F-5E ownership and flying every day, I firmly beleive that BELSIMTEK has made F-5E NWS wayl to high resulting in nearly impossible to control aircraft at high ground speed during TO and landing. Even the smallest rudder deflection , with NWS enabled, causes very high abrupt nose movement. Rudder control itself is fine , but NWS is just wonky. The other problem is activating NWS with rudder deflection causes an immidiate jerk to the deflected side. Overall, NWS, works badly in F-5E as it is currently developed.

It is caused by new stick options (under Special) for F-5E. When set to Displaced Neutral, and HOTAS does not have FFB, it causes abnormal stick pitch deflection during flight. Linear and Nonlinear work fine.

Since 1.5.8 The pitch control axis has gone screwy. It maps normal in options, but is heavily biased to +pitch during flight, that requires full deflection forward and pitch trim cannot compensate.