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120 everybody? Guess I better get on that 3d printer skim.. I mean thing.. stuff, plan? Oh god I'm too drunk, I'll delete this tomorrow.

This is what I know for sure. 250$ per piece if printed from an online printing service. With the throttles, probably around 400$. When I make my own 3d printer, for 400-600$ I would include a whole set, including 4-8 different stick and throttle grips. 'Cause in the model above, there is 6-8$ worth of plastic, whether printed or cast. Oh and forgot to mention, the buttons and switches in the above model are good quality, 5-6$ a piece. The buttons have a 5N operating force.

The molds are 'easy' to make if you know what you're doing :) I did this to see how much it would cost if printed directly. Next I will make internal changes to the model to make it cast-able. If the original is made out of resin, even better. I'll be buying resin casting equipment anyway. Just have to stock up on models, so I have something to work on as soon as I get it. The switches have 8 degree throw, that comes out to 2mm at the top of the hats (in any direction). If the general opinion is that it needs more, I just put the switches deeper into the housing. I would submit the design to TM, if they could price it less than 120$, otherwise I can make them cheaper myself. And I would have to design it to be injection molded which is not something I am farmiliar with, yet. On the other hand I see simple extension tubes going for 120 bucks, so the joke could be on me :)

Update, 23.08.2016. Actual prototypes being built every week: Update, 06.30.2016. Here's what you'll see from me in the next 6-12 months, piece by piece (not all at once!): Priority No.1 is warthog spring mod Priority No.2 is IR head tracker after that: F-18 grips You know everything, they're ready to go, I just need to see how I can couple them up with my own hotas, again to unify the parts and processes. They are going to be cheap, If you had to take a guess you'd be waay over. However, after simplifying every other manufacturing process, turns out these grips are the most complex thing here. Don't be mad if there'll be other products for sale before them because other products is exactly what will pay for your cheap grips. General purpose aviation panel (for FC3) Excuse the missing landing gear and tail hook levers. Just another example of why I do multiple developments at once. It took several other products to develop a unified lever mechanism for them all, which speeds up manufacturing, which brings down pricing and drives volume up. Now I'm not the only one who can do this, but you might be farmiliar that single panels/buttons boxes go for 200-300$, I am aiming for 99$, again not really possible on it's own, but with a dozen other products, very possible. With some help from developers, we can make it truly plug'n'play like the warthog. PRO aviation panels (for DCS) I started on the A-10 but that thing is a monster, I may have to switch to the F-18 or any other available model because they're at least 4x less complex. And again, you A-10 guys would have to pay a gazillion bucks for something like this if I only did the A-10, but other modules are what's going to pay for your cheap A-10 panels, even if I make them at a slight loss. General WWII aviation panels These will be toned down versions of the pro WWII panels. (see example below) PRO WWII aviation panels These will be full blown left/right panels, every single command functional even the rolling canopy open/close, clamp to your desk, put on a stand once you're finished and be the coolest friend to come over for a beer to. Each side will be cheaper then a couple generic button boxes available today. Started with P-51 because it's at least 4x more complex than any other WWII cockpit I looked at, so it gives me the worst case scenario pricing. Plane specific 'hotas' Throttle/collective and joystick/cyclic bases, with replaceable grips. Instruments, for everything eventually. Working mechanical instruments, including digit counters and lcd/digit displays for modern jets. Save

Oh hells yeah! That's what I call a stick assembly. Is that an aileron shaft running under the seat? It's a real B8 grip right? Nicely done sir!

Your math is correct, at 200 microns it would be a 200x150mm build area. As I said I'm building my own 'curing engine' that would give me 4 times that.But it's going to require additional problem solving, of which I will not go into details yet because I might go commercial with it since it is not yet solved. Do not compare FDM or fillament based printers with DLP ones, they have nothing in common resolution wise. I wish I had a step by step guide or some secret info for you:) Then I would have built it yesterday. I don't. Al I did was type in 'DIY dlp 3d printer' in google, looked at some pics and started from there. I have read through hundreds of links, and have yet to hear about dot inch problems. All you need for resolution is the last pixel, borderline pixel. Doesn't matter if inside of the object has some microns of uncured resin.

Yes the printer will be projector based, but even the projector will be a DIY 2560x1600 solution which would give a 25x15 inch build area. If I succeed in my plans, if not, a used 1024x768 projector is a fall back plan. There are still a couple of problems to solve with a large build area so I still have some experimenting to do. Finish quality should be great even if the resolution is not because there is still some uncured resin when you take the part out of the vat, and when the leftover resin cures it smooths the surface out. 200 microns is a very satisfactory surface finish. Even with a 1024x768 projector that would be a build area for 4 grips at a time

I'd be grateful for that link Found some fw190 and 109 blueprints on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-Flugzeug-Bauplan-Blueprints-Me109-Fw190-/251167895882?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7ac5f14a they're not from australia though

Build time is from 2-15 minutes per mm. And the only time cost is in vertical movement. Doesn't matter if you print 1 part, or 50 parts side by side. As opposed to FDM printers which have a time cost in both vertical and horizontal movement. So for example a fillament printer will print a single stick grip in 8 hours, but if you put in 50 grips to print that's 50x8=400 hours printing time. (and they have about 20% failure rate, so after 399 hours the print might fail and you just wasted a bunch material and time) Resin printer on the other hand might take 16 hours to print that single grip, but you can shove in as many as you want side by side, so If I put in 50 grips, it'll still be 16 hours to print and that is where the magic is. And I won't even mention the finish quality which is equal to plastic injection molding. Cost is the same. 1kg fillament 40$, 1kg resin 40$. Online printing services charge 3-5$ for 1 cubic cm + postage. With my on build, that goes down to 0.04$ per 1 cubic cm. I have been experimenting with a fillament 3d printer for the past month or two, and already have some prototypes done. And I've been researching in depth different printing techniques for the last year so I'm pretty sure I got this :D I've just been over optimistic about the build cost, It might be a grand for the prototype, but a larger size printer is gonna be 2-3 times that. And I don't plan on making panels or any other 2d shapes, those are perfect for laser cut acrylic sheet. But instrument covers, knobs, needles, internal parts, gears etc...

BIG thanks for the effort! And if there'll be changes in the FM to bring it closer to bf109 performance even beter!

^^ this ^^ But it sure would be nice to have complete 360 view

:megalol: "Well, funny story: I actually got two of them back in Russia, for a price of a used bmw." That'll get those white suits off you. Though you may expect a visit from the black suits department:D

I think arduino is THE way to go. We can steal the user base. There's hundreds of thousands of these units produced, even Chinese knockouts, 17$ a pop, you just can't beat that. It has 54 digital I/O, and now I see you can use shift registers to expend that to I don't even know what! And it can do anything, joysticks, LED's, displays, servo motors, stepper motors... you name it.

WOW! Does the room look out to the street? There were some big windows on the side if I remember correctly. Should be an interesting view for anyone passing by when it's not in use. Oh look, a tornado in this guy's house, hm..

So that's what those are for! Yeah I will implement them into the design no problem. Just wasn't sure how they're connected to the main needle.

Fisrt let me say those are the best looking rudder pedals out there. Looks mechanical and like it actually came from an airplane, well they are replicas :) But WOW... 8 grand? That's not even crazy price. At this point it doesn't even make sense. Because with 8 grand you can hire someone with a workshop for a couple of months and he'll make you a lot more than rudder pedals. I mean, looking at the pics from the review, there are 2 rails, 2 or 4 round linear bearings, 4 gas springs, some springs, a cable and a bunch of laser cut sheet metal welded together. The pedals maybe cnc made. I see tops 1.000$ of material and service cost there. The only way I see this costing 8 grand if the guy isn't and engineer and didn't make the plans and CAD files himself. Went to a workshop with pics and said this is what I want. They charge him 4 grand and he puts another 4 grand as a profit. But basically he can charge whatever he wants, I don't see another set out there.

Haha, John Madden style! So, we have come from DCS being on sale, to engastration, which is a recipe method in which one animal is stuffed inside the gastric passage of another. DCS is amazing! I'm just gonna start my conversations with DCS now. I can't wait to see where it takes me..

And you all know what comes after cheeseburgers, right? :)

Waaaait a minute. Don't think I don't know what you're trying to do here, ED. "Oh you're thinking about trying some crack? Here, have some for free, see if you like it. Tell your friends.." I can already see guys hitting the streets "Hey man you got 10 bucks? 9.99? Common man, I got these cheeseburgers maaan.." :)

Well, I was gonna wait until I build my controls... But at this price there is just no point in waiting.

Ok, so 100% authenticity on 90% of the cockpit for A-10. Who cares, for the first time in simpit history, one can build a machine that can do shapes and parts that were a pipe dream just monts ago... I don't see people complaining about their thrustmaster warthogs not being within 1% of milspec dimensions. Pictures and other milspecs for reference will do.

I think he meant smaller FOV because it's farther away

This would suggest that a picture looks the same on a 24'' 1920x1080 monitor at 1 feet as on a 24'' 800x480 monitor at 2.25 feet, because at those distances they have the same ppd?

So, to everyone wondering what happened to my project. I found out that self made 3D resin printers are just now becoming a reality. Machines that would and still do cost hundreds of thousands, you can now make for a 1.000 bucks or so, provided that you have a substantial degree o knowledge on how these things work. Hardware, electronics and firmware programming. After months of research and learning, I am starting to build my own machine. This has overtaken the priority over acrylic sheet designed instruments, because when I finish building this tool, only the imagination is the limit to what can be built. And not only prototypes but functional parts and in quantities and 100% authenticity. So bare with me, still some months of work left to do, but when it's done we can have truly great sim products that an average simmer can afford.

Actually if you set your guns to a single point conversion, you get a much larger spread after the convergence distance, than you would with the official 1000 feet harmonization or "box pattern". And I am yet to hear about a historical account of a true 'single point' convergence. Single point conversion seems to me to be coming from IL2 pilots. (that is IL2, the game)