Mnemonic

Недавно собирал себе новый комп, взял Вин-7 64 бита, Майкрософт диски с семеркой кстати до сих пор печатает, с обновленным дизайном упаковки (а-ля 8 ) :) К сожалению у 8.1 есть проблемы с теми же рамками МФД от Трустмастера, у части более старых игр есть проблемы, кроме того недавно писали что были странные баги с последними дровами нвидия на 8.1, при этом на 7 все было прекрасно. Баги с дровами конечно поправятся, но прецидент был. Ну и интерфейс да, сам купил две лицензии 8-ки еще год назад, поставил себе и жене, через пару недель решили что никому эти запары "псевдодизайнерские" не нужны, и обратно вернулись на семерку. Проблема даже не в новом интерфейсе "метро", а в том как он слюблен с "десктоп" интерфейсом, который теперь один из метро-апов. Проблемы интеграции на лицо, взять хотя бы два поиска в системе которые возвращают разные результаты. Скорость загрузки с хорошим новым ССД - совершенно одинакова.

Are you talking about Su 25T from 1.2.8? New 6DOF, remodelled cockpit? It was the case for 2D pits, is it the same now with new 3D pits for F-15, Su-27/33,25,25T ? I don't know, just asking

Тут обсуждение :) http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=84339&highlight=aerofly+fs

Are there any fixes for the triple monitor HUD?

Скриншоты сделанные на новом компе, с тремя мониторами, используя моды: More Visibility by Harke, DCSEnhancedTerrain-v1-1 и Airfield Ground Textures by Toby Rayfield (toby23) В полном разрешении (6000 x 1080 три фулл-хд монитора + коррекция рамки) тут: https://www.flickr.com/photos/78320478@N05/sets/72157644505715163/

Screens made on triple-monitor setup, with More Visibility by Harke, and DCSEnhancedTerrain-v1-1 and Airfield Ground Textures by Toby Rayfield (toby23) Full rez (6000 x 1080 with bezel correction) here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/78320478@N05/sets/72157644505715163/

2D to 3D conversion on a TV doesn't give you "the same" effect. 2D to 3D conversion is not true stereoscopy, because algorithm just "guessing" what is in front, what's on the back, also guessing what's behind elements of cockpit which are obscuring landscape. In case of NVidia 3D Vision - videocard driver knows exactly what are the geometries being rendered, z-buffer, etc. So it is reproducing proper frames for left and right eyes.

Hi Nephilim, thanks for the tip, but that file looks like damaged, xml is not properly constructed I'm trying to do this file myself now. Actually just deleting Black Shark profile - enabled DCS to work in FullScreen with HDR in stereo! However separation settings are too strong, but it's manageble to tweak them. Will dig into it more, thanks! Also what version of NVidia inspector you use? Mine (1.9.7.2) was unable to read file you gave me.

The way frame should be prepared for OR is completely different from NVidia 3D Vision Currently sun is not the problem with 3DV. HUD is still the problem with 3DV, also 3DV doesn't start when game is in fullscreen mode, somehow works now only in windowed. Hope besides OR integration, ED will consider better integration with NVidia 3D Vision, which is the best tech for 3D monitors at home so far.

Great new version! F-15 AFM is a blast, really something completely new! New Su-25T, Su-33 cockpits are just awesome as well! Thanks ED! :)

F-15C AFM is there, in regular DCS 1.2.8 within FC3, try it! The only error is icon on starting screen.

Any hint from ED? :)

Yes, it will have Rift support, but it doesn't automatically mean that it will have NVidia 3D Vision support, and we requesting NVidia 3D Vision support here. Hi Nephilim, fellow 3D triple screener here as well. If ED would like to have any tests I would be glad to participate as well, DCS in 3D Vision surround is just brilliant.

Hello dear Eagle Dynamics developers. I would like to ask you if there are any plans of making new DCS rendering engine - EDGE, compatible with NVidia 3D Vision 2? If there are no such plans at the moment, I would like to request for you, considering this option. So far latest version of DCS World Open Beta (1.2.8 ) supports it, however not 100%. Here are the issues: 1 - somehow 3D Vision doesn't work with DCS running in full-screen mode, only windowed. Which is weird but I'm sure it should be very easy to solve. 2 - post process effects (HDR) doesn't work correctly, water reflections don't work as well, which is fine, no big deal 3 - most importantly - HUDs of most airplanes are rendered not at the infinity plane, but somewhere close to the HUD glass itself, there are some mods for fixing this on Ka-50, and A-10C available, but would be good if it would be properly fixed by devs. Please consider implementing proper support of 3DV, in current version it's "almost there", but would be good if EDGE would support it 100%. I don't think it's a hard task to ask, for example Oculus Rift implementation is much harder. I guess many comrades here on forums would agree with me, as many of you have 3DTVs or modern gaming monitors 120 - 144 Hz. Also, I could imagine, NVidia would be glad to support you with making this implementation. Would be good to hear from developers on this.

I agree, however few times I flew in a glider as a passenger, and I could clearly see every little detail on the ground, from few kilometers altitude, this is huge part of "flying" experience, so I'm not sure if we need to negate resolution as immersion factor for this type of experiences. Of course it's cool when cockpit looks real-life size, with proper stereoscopy, but you should be able to enjoy it not only because of that. For example DCS looks absolutely stunning on three stereoscopic screens with nVdidia 3D Vision surround as well, one can adjust FOV to have real-sized objects, and have nice resolution at the same time. Sure it doesn't cut you from real world, but it can be plus if you use real simpit.

You expected comment like "OMG this is so bloody immersive, turn your head to the right and you hear the engines are on the right, unbelievable! It's like being there!" ?

Not Everyone, I have Rift DK1, and it doesn't look as good as many people talk, it's quite awful for DCS with low rez and huge pixel smearing, sorry to disappoint. This is my personal opinion, I know many guys here want to dump their hi-rez nice & comfy screens for Rift. And I am the first hour bidder and big supporter of Palmer and Oculus, just DK1 is not suitable for DCS. Looking forward to DK2 in July, it should be much better in many areas. Resolution wise it doesn't look to be that much better, however low persistence should eliminate smearing and OLED should bring better color reproduction. PS: I should mention that there are other demos where DK1 works pretty good despite resolution, the ones where you don't need to see dials and gauges, or recognize vehicles on the ground.

Sound was already 3D long time ago, even if you use a mouse to look around - sound properly reproduced in the headphones, like sound of the engines - properly positioned. It's pretty surprising to see this question, people use 6DOF tracking with TrackIR in DCS for ages.

Что что а моды в стим воркшоп было бы круто перенести, с подписками, легкой установкой и удалением, автоматическими обновлениями.

On the other side, while also waiting for good rez Rift, I upgraded to 3 x 3D FullHD screens + TrackIR, for DCS it is much more usable, and I can comfortably fly long flights with a nice cup of tea, while having really good immersion. I have Rift DK1 btw.

Все нормально работает, я собрал себе вариант с nVidia 3D Vision Surround (комплект 3D Vision версии 2) - работает на трех мониторах (Asus VG278HR) в стерео с последней версией ДКС (64 бита) и драйверов нВидия, надо только отключить ХДР, эффекты воды на минимум (иначе отражения неправильные), а теперь главное - надо отключить полноэкранный режим и активировать "выключение эйра" при запуске. Для того чтобы ИЛСы выводились на правильной глубине, нужно ставить моды как в этой ветке: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=109341 ИЛС для Су-27 к сожалению еще не фиксили, но даже так летать на нем одно удовольствие, в принципе нормально и в ДВБ и в БВБ.

Уважаемые разработчики, в новом визуальном движке (EDGE), кроме Oculus Rift, будет ли поддержка NVidia 3D Vision? Хотя бы на таком-же как сейчас уровне? Спасибо.

Why so? If their vision is not just deliver a headset, but rather deliver a Metaverse, then they gonna need plenty of money and "big brother" for support. Besides, Mark Zuckerberg says the short time plans and commitments of Oculus will not change.

Legit 100% http://www.oculusvr.com/blog/oculus-joins-facebook/

It means that they want to convince everybody to use simpler graphics instead. When making something for the Rift it is important to remember that fast rendering with simpler graphics always perceived by the user in a better way than beautiful graphics which doesn't render 60 times a second in a persistent fashion. If you have stutters that makes you vomit it's worse than if you have much simpler shadows in the game, in this sort of sense. P.S. I'm very curious how ED will solve this with DCS. It basically should never ever drop frames, not by bomb exploding, not by smoke, not by flares popping, it should be smooth as silk, preferably at 90 FPS or higher.