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I was talking about Fw 190 A-8 AI. Well, in the last few missions (I guess since the mission no. 3) I have not available Comm menu so I cannot give orders via F10 to attack. EDIT: I am using VAICOM plugin for VOICE ATTACK to give orders via mic. Now I tried to not run Voice Attack and Comm menu at the start of mission 5 is available. I will try to fly all the next misson without VA and let you know here about the availability of Comm menu as well as about drop tanks after F10 attack command.

Big thank you for the Horrido! campaign Reflected. Honestly, it is the best scripted campaign I have ever played! (I have played 6 missions so far) Just one little thing: I noticed AI never drops belly tank before combat/attack. Is there any way for me as a leader to make them drop it?

Hi Rob. Would you post pls links with info that a) P-38 is going to be adapted for DCS b) Bf 109G-6 is in progress as AI by ED? c) A6M5 is in progress... AFAIK nothing of these is sure for now. But pls correct me if I am wrong. It would be great if at least some of these projects have already started.

Well, you are right that the poll is a mess od aircrafts from different periods. But it is not my reasoning. If you know about some info leaks from ED, they are planning to build Pacific as well as Battle of Britain battlefields/scenarios. That is why the poll has to mention all the aircrafts ED plan to release in a more or less distant future. Because average time for the creation of 1 a/c is a very long period (at least 1 year of work), the goal is to see what we as a community prefer...

Oh, I forgot to mention Typhoon :(, sorry for that guys. Unfortunately, now I am not allowed to add new poll items... But pls feel free to add your comments here.

I think it would be nice for us as well as for ED to know what WWII aircraft is currently most wanted/needed by the community. (The original thread here https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/englis...at-would-it-be is great but a little bit disorganized now) Mosquito F.B. Mk.VI, ME 262 and F4U Corsair are considered as in-progress projects so no need to vote for them. Vote for only one aircraft. Please read this thread before you vote: https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/englis...n-future-years

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OK, understand. Thanks for your correction. Then it seems you are right :thumbup: Looks like ED prefered lower values from the late 1944 and 1945 charts. i.e. cca 545 km/h. So it seems that in case of DCS A-8 (542 km/h) there is a difference cca 10-15 km/h (not a big one but worth to consider) from the earlier charts and cca 2-5 km/h from the late charts (a very small difference that could be caused by measurement errors on either side)

Interesting data, thanks very much for sharing. If I read the graphs correctly, these are the speeds for A-8 at sea level: (pls correct me if I read wrong some data) January 1944 2700 @ 1,5 ATA 555 km/h 2700 @ 1,65 ATA 578 km/h March 1944 2700 @ ? ATA 530 km/h 2700 @ 1,5 ATA 555 km/h 2700 @ 1,65 ATA 580 km/h May 1944 graph of bad quality, but seems the same like the one from March 1944 October 1944 2700 @ 1,50 ATA 545 km/h 2700 @ 1,65 ATA 565 km/h January 1945 2700 @ 1,52 ATA 545 km/h 2700 @ 1,65 ATA 565 km/h Unknown one 2700 @ ? ATA 556 km/h Seems to me that graphs shows cca 545-555 km/h for 1,5 ATA. That IMO could be consistent roughly with 541 km/h for 1,42 ATA P.S. I think we should count at least with some little error margins due to methods of measurements even in official data.

Not a primary source but very reliable secondary one: Smith & Creek, FW 190 (3 volumes) - p. 410 FW 190A-8 speeds:

Well, if DCS A-8 has Erhöhte Notleistung it would add 15-20 km/h. As far as I know EN was on majority of A-8 except the first batches (and these were supposed to be upgraded later as well). DCS P-47 Is probably faster then IRL at least at the sea level.

I would like to know it too... Any word about it from ED somewhere?

Agree. IMHO it is better to have the warbird with 95% fidelity than do not have it at all because it is not possible to make it with 100% fidelity...

Veeery nice!

Thanks very much Fenrir for the valuable insight! Sadly, I guess, the time has gone too far from the WWII days, so we cannot count with the help of Tempest veterans anymore. Looks like restored flyable Tempest is the necessity. Anyway, do you know if there are some period wind tunnel tests for Tempest? It would be strange if we have late war Luftwaffe fighter tests but not the ones from the winner (i.e. allied) side... One would expect that archives on the British isles should be in a much better state of completeness than those in the Third Reich...

My test was only a brief one. I do not intend to invest much time into it. If someone wants to add high altitude data it would be great. I have attached my .miz files at the first post if someone wants to use them for some additional tests...

I agree, you are right 15° would be better and more precise. Hopefully, it is not a big problem, at least ALL a/c used the same though not ideal temp (20°) so the differences among a/c should be roughly the same. Yes, P-47D is probably way too fast at sea level in DCS. IRL pilots usually would not overboost the engine but in DCS they do always if it is allowed. So I used max possible MP in my test.

Just made a test of maximum TAS speeds (horizontal flight) for all late war WWII fighters at sea level, at 3300 m (10000 ft) and at 6100m (20000 ft). Parameters of the test: DCS Open Beta 2.5.6.57530 Normandy map, temperature 20°C, pressure standard atm 29.92 inHg, wind 0 kt fuel 50% planes trimmed for horizontal flight measured flight duration at least 1 min or more until speed stops rising TAS read from the status bar Power settings: P-47D-30: water injection and turbocharger , 71″ @ 2700 RPM P-51D: WEP, 67″ @ 3000 RPM Spitfire Mk.IX: +18 @ 3000 RPM FW 190D: MW50, 3250 RPM FW 190A-8: notleistung 2700 RPM (1.4 ATA) Bf 190K-4: MW50, 1.75 ATA (2800 RPM) Measured speeds: P-47D-30 615 km/h 646 km/h 670 km/h P-51D 592 km/h 631 km/h 674 km/h Spitfire Mk. IX 525 km/h 585 km/h 611 km/h FW 190D 594 km/h 646 km/h 698 km/h FW 190A-8 542 km/h 572 km/h (with 2nd stage of supercharger ON) 628 km/h Bf 109K-4 592 km/h 637 km/h 678 km/h Conclusion: At sea level the winner is P-47D At 3300m P-47D, FW 190D and Bf 190K are very close to each other At 6100m the winner is FW 190D P.S. Misson files attached if anyone wants to verify measured numbers _speed_tests.rar

Well, maybe Kermit Weeks gives us a real flying Tempest V one day....

The same for me Al-Azraq. As for the Tempest, despite all the known difficulties, I still have my hopes to see its one day in DCS. IMHO this plane would be a fantastic addition to the late war planeset.

I agree. Personally, I would be very happy if we have G-6 with few possible subvariants (including G-14). I am just trying to stay on absolute "minimums" we need (and if we miraculously get more, than we all be pleasantly surprised :-) )

Thanks to all Luftwaffe fans for contributions. Though I understand your point of view, I think we all should realize that we can probably get at best (if we are very lucky) only 1 (one !) player-controlled Bf 109 1944 fighter from ED. So, from a game-play of view, I think the missing most useful Luftwaffe fighter is the one from 1944 and the one reasonably different from existing K-4 (DB 605D w MW50 and 30 mm cannon). That is why we IMHO need Bf 109 with DB605A without MW50 and with 20 mm cannon. So we are talking here about G-6 late variant. We need such a fighter as an even powered machine comparing to allied 1944 fighters with 100/130 grade fuel (P-51D, Spit IXC and P47D) we have now in-game. G-14 as MW50 variant of G-6 and/or G-6 AS as more supercharged G-6 are of course possible variants of basic G-6 but IMHO they are of secondary importance for us from game-play point of view because they push engine power more towards K-4 we already have. From the same reason, G-10 as a direct "sub-variant" or "predecessor" of K-4 is not very practical or worth of precious developer's time for us now.

Hmm, surely it would be nice to have B-24 AI but honestly, no offence, I do not see the second high alt strategic bomber as something that is really necessary right now for the next DCS development (especially if we consider limited resources of ED for anything new)... But just my point of view... Anyway thanks for the post Seaside.

Thanks, 150-grade fuel demand added to the first post.