Dirty Rotten Flieger

Maybe the weight they saved by not installing ejection seats in the Mig? lol and the sabre had air conditioners! they gotta take up space and weight .

There are many threads about these update problems and no response that I have seen. I simply cannot update my game.

Maybe this is the problem. It is possible I had flew 4 ground attack missions one after the other . Also I didn't turn my engine off at all when I landed and rearmed/refueled. If I recall correctly I did get shot down and respawn once though I can't remember. It certainly seems likely that I had just worn out my engine using the burner . Thanks for the suggestion.

I tried to reproduce it but couldn't. I also tried switching the nosecone to manual and leaving it at 20% and seeing if that caused the same effect but I was able to get quite high speed with it at 20%. 1.7 mach or there about. Don't think it is the nose cone flipping to manual on respawn or rearm/refuel.

Ill have to try some more tests... In this case I was landing and refueling/rearming most of the time . On some occasions I got shot down I respawned on the runway with engines running. I have never started a mission on the runway before. I usually start cold. I'll check if it the nose cone switched off on a hot start on the runway. Thanks for the nose cone suggestion. Sounds likely.

I think there is a bug when respawning or rearming/refueling and maybe the engine doesn't make full power. I respawned and tried to fly over 10k at 2.2mach at 1 or 2 degrees aoa as I have many times but couldn't get even close. Needed about 8 degrees aoa to hold level flight at 7 km altitude. Loaded up another mission and easily got to 12km altitude, 2.2 mach, 2 degrees aoa.

I made a quick mission with lots of ground targets and was flying attack missions, going back to base , landing , rearming and flying again... I had done maybe 6 missions of low altitude ground pounding and just for a change I thought I might load some air to air missiles and a tank and go high alt and see how fast I could go with the drag of four missiles. I was aiming to get above 10k and see if I could reach mach 2. I couldn't . No hope. I couldn't even hold level flight without about 8 degrees angle of attack at about mach 1.2 It was as if the engine was not making full power. I ejected and took off again with no missiles and even with a clean plane I couldn't get past 1.2mach. I quite the mission and made another with infinite fuel and straight away I noticed much more power . The plane slowly pitched up with afterburners and climbed easily to 15km, leveled off and reached mach 2.2. Maybe spawning a new plane is bugged and the engine is not making full power? Or maybe landing and rearming/refueling is where the problem is. I remember a thread on here from months ago with a similar complaint about angle of attack being too high at high alt and high speed... Has anyone else experienced this?

Me too, It tries to update everytime I start but get roughly 1/3 way through the download and times out. So I hit cancel , the command window opens for a second and then it launches the game with . The older version. If I try to relaunch it to restart the update it won't try to update. It goes with saying, I am running as admin and without virus software security enabled . What is particularly annoying is that when it was in steam it would updated perfectly. I was forced to uninstall the steam version and re download it at extra cost per gigabyte and it just wont update.

WOW! great work thanks lot.

I thought I had seen it all but this is new... So nice footage of Mig15 being shoot down. One even goes into a spin and the sabre almost collides as he dives past firing.

The AI is no challenge... Hold a .7 mach level turn, be patient you will pull around on him. He will panic and try to climb but you will have so much more E and get an easy shot before you over shoot him in the climb. Once you know how to do this you can take on 4 AI Mig 15 at a time and have no trouble shooting them all down without ever really being in danger. Got the idea from the F86 sabre flight manual which states that the F86F engine has maximum excess thrust at .7-.8 mach... If the AI knew it had a good climb at altitude and tried to say above you at high alt, the fight might be more interesting. But as it is you will quickly get bored of shooting them down one after the other in turn fight at low altitude, and they never learn from their mistake. Can't wait for online Mig15 V F86 duel. Human opponents fast and high! The apex of gunfighters.

Thanks yes I understand. I have the dora trimmed as you suggest. It's pleasure to fly now. I am just saying I won't buy the K4 till I can trim it so it cruises straight level at max continuous power without have to hold the stick constantly. As designed.

I thought "signal starter crew " means tell the ground crew to crank the flywheel up to speed with a hand crank. So you are suggesting that "signal starter crew" means tell ground crew to plug in the anlasswagon, external portable generator. Can the electric starter motor run without external power? From the onboard battery ? Nice post OP. Diagrams are interesting.

This is the reason I have not bought it yet. It put me off flying the dora. Once you know that it should cruise balanced without having to hold the aileron, it is hard not to notice that it is just not set up right. I will wait to buy it till this can be fixed by trimming with the ground adjustable aileron tabs. Does it fly balanced at any speed?

Oh thanks for replying! happy to hear it. I'll buy it as soon as I can. It may seem like small thing, but it really put me off flying the dora.

Have you guys seen this amazing cockpit footage?

So I believe the german planes are supposed to fly straight and level at max continuous power at sea level with balanced controls. No input required. When the dora came out it required constant aileron input to fly straight and level. It may seem like nitpicking but we can't adjust the aileron trim tabs to balance the plane so it was a little annoying knowing that historically they designed them to balance at cruise. Till I found out we could mod the aileron trim tabs and fix the problem. I appreciate the german engineers designing a plane that is balanced at cruise and doesn't need rudder trim or constant pressure on the stick. Is K4 is released with historical balanced trim at cruise?

An explosive shell like the 30mm minengeschoss fired by the Mk108 destroys targets with chemical energy rather than kinetic energy . Range and speed of the projectile should make very little difference . It is the shell exploding that does the damage. The damage modeling on all the ww2 birds seems off to me. At least compared to other sims and real life gun cam footage. It takes too many hits with the 20mm on the dora to bring down another dora or p51 I would expect the 30mm should be a one shot kill almost every time.

When ever I touchdown in the Su27 on airfield or even touchdown su33 on carrier I get a glitch where the whole plane suddenly jumps instantly to the right or left and the physics of landing don't happen. It just instantly has all wheels down with no suspension absorbing the shock. So bad I don't fly this plane. I hoped it would be fixed for this release but it still happens.

Thanks for your suggestions fearless frog. You have helped me before with steam DCS. Sorry I didn't see this thread since I made it. The problem I had was that when the Mig21bis came out I wanted it now! The steam release was two weeks later! So I bought it through DCS store and just unzipped into the steam folder.... It did work like this and I got to fly it straight away but then steam doesn't update it because steam doesn't know it is there. Infact the second update rendered it unusable. Trying to fly it would mean CTD. I didn't know I could use the DCS updater although I did wonder if that would work... The best thing about steam is that I have many friends on steam and when I log on I see straight away if any of them are playing games I have. So maybe my friend is playing DCS single player and I see this and invite him to DCS multiplayer. We both are better off . Standalone DCS doesn't give this community stuff. I was also reluctant to "unsteam" because I thought I would have to set up everything again. But all my settings were rolled over and so were my module licences. It was very easy and now I can buy modules when they are on sale through DCS store.

Thanks Kazereal, It wasn't as painful as it looked at first. All settings were applied automatically and the module manager detected my accounts modules, and is installing them now. Now I can move of from this steam debacle.

"UnSteaming" DCS Not sure where the best place to ask this is. I want to install DCS world and all my modules outside steam. So I have downloaded the DCS world installer and there it is , a fresh no modules, no keys bindings for all the modules, default setup.... How can I copy all my key bindings and hardware setup...ect Also I guess I just paste the steam keys in the new install after hitting "buy"

HI I had most modules in Steam, When they stopped taking keys I couldn't just download and install DCS again cause in my country I have to pay for gigs and it was 23 gig. I bought the Mig21 when it came to DCS store and unzipped to steam. That worked but it does not update so with latest DCS update Mig21bis doesn't work at all. So I gonna have to "unsteam" DCS. I downloaded the DCS world installer and installed... Which files can I just copy and paste into the new directory to keep all my key binding and customisations, missions... ect I tried just copy paste the whole steam dcs folders over the new install and it works but still Mig21 problem and I could fix if I could get DCS to update itself again but it thinks it is latest version.... I hope this makes sense to someone who can help

Me too. If I get shot down and try to jump in my wing men's planes, 90% of the time his engine flames out and can't be restarted even if I dive and fan the engine

Wow ill buy this twice ! I'll buy a copy for everyone at christmas even though I'm the only one who plays flight sims!