Coyote Duster

I remember reading the other day that LN's next craft will share common components with the tomcat. Now irc razbam is doing the a-6, the a-4 is being done so that leaves the a-7 corsair and the f-4 phantom and some other jets which I don't remember off the top of my head.

Any of them is fine with me, I like the dual controls the us one had too, I just assumed navy because they have a list of naval aircraft, plus the phantom was on the forestal class carriers as well.

map makers gotta take the fight away from the mountains, but they know in doing that they will doom the russians.

I don't understand where everyone's getting this preconceived notion that the next jet might be either of these Russian jets, I'd rather see a naval f-4 since they have the corsair and tomcat in the works.

For as in how to fly it? Or for as in how to fight it?:D

Don't be so quick to write it off fellas lol, in a perfect launch scenario (tws) that missile is very high and going very fast I wanna say 80,000 feet and over Mach 2 someone correct me I don't remember the details, and by the time you do get a launch warning it's about 7 miles out and screaming at you, which in turn gives you literally seconds to react, what's to say another one isn't on its way? And it still doesn't even have to make contact with you to hurt you. And there isn't always going to be mountains to protect you. Even if you Guys do run away you just ceded the airspace to the cats.

Someone want to enlighten me with all this hubub on the mig-23? I'm leaning more towards a phantom.

I think plenty of Russian fighters will get snuck by the Phoenix since their rwr isn't very informative, the Phoenix has a very different flight pattern from most conventional missiles, and is one of the fastest, also the Phoenix doesn't always have to be fired from a stand off range, they're more than capable of tracking and maneuvering at close to medium ranges. Russians will have to tread a tad bit more carefully.

It would be cool with me, I remember a map on il2 1946 where russian and American planes teamed up on the Germans, american b17 and escort fighters landed in Russian territory, that'd be cool plus the numerous friendly fire incidents between the two countries recreated would make things....interesting

Whoa man Nickleback sucks lol that's a brutal comparison

Would be interesting in rough seas at night......

The late, the great, the bold................f-4 Phantom

We're all going through hype withdrawals, we just gotta bite our lips and ride the waves until the glorious tomcat is unleashed. When it is released I'm going to enjoy flaming viggens only because they saw entry to dcs first XD

She'll hold fine in the modern background, if the mig-21 can sneak an f-15 kill the tomcat should be able to snag a flanker or two

ch-53 would be nice with carrier ops

i couldnt make those shots if my life depended on it, i gotta get real close to em, very good marksmanship

maybe we'll get a lighter and tighter turning p51b/c....even better a british mustang 3 which had a higher boost rating if im not mistaken. its true....the stangs are getting smacked down sure we get our punches in here and there but its still lopsided. All this back and forth is getting exhausting, I've left all my good points back in the mustang thread. k4 g4 f4 e4, a 109 is a 109 doesn't matter to me personally which one they model next.

i think the 109 had armored glass panes too, not too sure, but how thick is the armor plating behind the 109? 50 cals have been used to strafe destroyers, armored cars, heavy iron trains, submarines, cargo ships, etc and such not discounting the armor on the 109, just curious.

he said he was waiting for them claim lol

:megalol: i was the one that shot him up, missing many times with the far convergenence and he turns around 1 shots me and pops my engine it was either him or i grenaded it myself

when it comes down to it what engines what's worse? the merlin (which pakard built better) having as much air shoved into it as possible? or the germans trying not to grenade their engines with nitrious oxide? on another note the k4 pilots get too cocky and they come for our bases, just yesterday legion and I had to drop one as soon as we formed up

thank you sir

Couldn't have said it better at all, well put my friend and spot on

Deliveries began in mid-October 1944. 534 examples had been delivered by the Messerschmitt A.G., Regensburg by the end of November 1944, and 856 by the end of the year.[105][106] Regensburg delivered a total of 1593 by the end of March 1945 so LATE 1944 AND EARLY 1945 1593 is not that common :smartass: propoganda what?

those who keep throwing around the word "propoganda" probably don't know what it really is. NOW with that being said time to speak some of that so called "propoganda": FACT: the p47 (with the high losses it suffered) was a tank....and it broke the western luftwaffe's back. the p51 came along to clean it all up FACT: 1944 german planes were not up to par at high altitudes and were heavier due to gunpods and were smacked out of the skies by escorts FACT: germans switched up and did hit and run tactics which worked for awhile until the order was given to annhilate the luftwaffe wherever it could be found FACT: germans were harrassed forming up, en route, egress, and landing FACT: late war german planes did hold an edge even the g10 was a hot rod of a plane, lack of veteran pilots, inferior quality due to bombing of factories and synthetic oil plants hampered their perfomance enough with the "if germany had x they would have won" we had the p51h p47 m/n and the p80 was in testing, pershings were on their way not to mention unleashing the hellstorm of b29s in conclusion........ive noticed on alot of ww2 forums that the german camp fosters a secret dislike for american planes and will slander them a lot, face it, bombers or no bombers when you have roving flights of p-51s sweeping the skies at low to medum altitude almost every day you can't beat that, and the k4 and d9 are modeled to their highest peaks with their 1 shot ko guns and endless amounts of energy, hows about ed just man up, give us our api 50s, proper dm, our custom convergence, and our higher manifold, you've given both the german planes their magic mw50s.......... stang pilots we just need to band together, fly at 10 to 15k ft and "Sweep" when you have wingmen and a speed and energy atvantage.... the k4s and 190s are not invincible, ive turned into 109s, and d9s on the deck its funny watching them squirm in surprise when a vet pony driver knows what he's doing, you can out run a k4 on the deck and out roll and turn a d9 on the deck, forget about them climbing just gather speed and zoom climb right on their six. stop being impatient and playing into their hands at lower altitudes. also its getting extremely annoying seeing 1 p51 vs 12 super ultra k4s in every ww2 server. There's my propoganda because corporate america wants to withold all the facts from us poor flight simmers, they don't want us to know that those brave so called untouchable germans whose kill counts were based on ambushing neighboring countries with inferior planes and tactics were actually brutally shooting down our worshipped p51s in droves lol and only our numbers saved us.