rel4y
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Make sure to use MMJoy ver [v20160818upd1] as the newer one has a bug and the older ones are obsolete. Also make sure to reflash your Arduino with this MMJoy version. The version on the board and the exe need to be the same! I will look into your wiring shortly. (click on Downloads, select the correct version) https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=de&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.de&sl=ru&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://sites.google.com/site/mmjoyproject/fajly-dla-skacivania&usg=ALkJrhgi6r14-KngGvDS8i28dP4juRcDBw
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There are no A0 or A1 pins on Arduino Leonardos. You are using pins F7 and F6. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/MMjoy/mmjoy_en/master/img/Board%20pinouts/Pins_Arduino%5Bleonardo%5D.png
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Thanks! The Cougar Slew is not listed yet, but it is 22€. The Cougar stick sensors are 42€. These are the ones replacing the pots in the stick base.
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Sorry, not much new info on this front. PCBs are in production and I am waiting for them to be shipped. Mechanical parts are production ready and will go live once the electronics are ready. A huge problem currently is acquiring the female 5 pin Mini DIN connectors that TM uses on the Cougar and Warthog. I am running out of ideas where to find these... :( Cougar/ F-22 ANT and RNG pots are coming along well, no pictures though. Yet. :) Concerning the Cougar Slew/ Ministick I ran into some problems with the Nylon dye, it colored the white SLS parts in a blueish hue instead of grey. Therefore I had to order a different dye which hopefully works much better. The serial slew hats have a bit of a radius on top which looks better. I will attach some pictures of the installed Ministick though as it is a joy to use already. :)
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I also offer ready made 24Bit 4021 shift regs for 10€ in case you would like to go that route, but dont want to make them yourself. For more info you can click the link in my signature below.
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Thank you! Yes, I am targeting Christmas but it is gonna be a close call! In case we go into another lockdown the chances are pretty much zero however.
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I doubt Bodnar boards can read out shift registers and the T50 grip runs on shift regs doesn't it? I'd rather go with MMjoy or FreeJoy, as they both can read 4021 shift registers.
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Big update incoming! :music_whistling: Huge thanks go out to Gruman for providing me with all the needed Warthog measurements and he was even kind enough to send me his Warthog plate over from Switzerland. :thumbup: So thanks to Gruman I was able to finish the Warthog adapter plate. Now all the hardware is pretty much set and I only need to do one more testprint to make sure everything works as expected. The first production version of electronics is pretty much ready and I will order everything in the next days. I also just realized that the Cougar and F-22 Pro base have the same mounting holes. Therefore the Cougar version will also fit the F-22 base. Cool! Left side is Warthog, right side is Cougar with part of the base displayed (black). Next, I designed another version of the 13 deg tailpiece which looks a bit awkward but has less of a forward lean and therefore the grips center of gravity will also be less front heavy. And its closer to the original F-16 specs. I actually have another idea how to get exact specs, but I am not sure if that would make it too complex. You know, the old keep it simple stupid... Finally, Id like to present a replacement Ministick for the Cougar Throttle. I have had tons of requests for this one over the past and now I finally got around to it. This mod sadly got delayed for several months because of covid, but its finally ready. The thumbhat is modeled after an original F-16 slew and it just needs to be dyed grey with some good quality Nylon dye. Dont worry, that is the same way Shapeways dyes their stuff black or whatever color. As always, the mod is totally plug and play. Price is gonna be 22€. Soon, I will present you the ANT and RNG pots as well. I am making good progress on those.
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Hey Sergey, I have followed the freejoy project since its inception and it has progressed splendidly. However one major drawback I came across is the really really cheap voltage reg of the blue pill boards, which makes the internal ADCs useless imo. Have you experimented with external voltage regs, like a 7805 or something? Ideally would be a LDO reg which can be supplied via 5V USB, like a MIC5219 used on Arduinos. You are also using Sprint layout if I remember correctly? Id really love to switch to the STMs for some projects, but I would much prefer using the internal ADCs. Kind regards
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A button matrix needs way too many pins which the board doesnt have, its quite inefficient and oldschool. There are only 15 usable pins in total on the board. For the CH button matrix I wasted 9 of these pins for only 20 buttons. With shift regs I get up to 96 buttons for only 2 pins used. I fear if you want to go the analog route you will be limited to 5 pins or a 2x3 matrix = 6 buttons.
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Yes, the upgrade mainboard has an expansion bay. You can have a total of 8 axes, either 8 analog with 12 Bit resolution or replace 2 of them with digital axes over SPI protocol (like TLE5011 with 14 Bit resolution). I will soon offer 34,4mm spaced (standard mount spacing on RAMS, MagRez sensors) TLE5011 sensors with header pins for your projects. Further you can add up to 96 buttons via shift registers to the CH upgrade mainboard. I offer shift registers with 24 inputs (buttons) for 10€ and you can daisy chain 4 of them for the full 96 inputs.
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Thanks Gary! :) As Gary confirmed, all the buttons are mapped exactly as on the original. Since it has a different USB ID you would need to remap ingame. However, you can give the CH upgrade mainboard the same VID/PID as the CH Pro Throttle, then it would be recognized as the same USB device and you wouldnt need to remap you controls ingame. For that the CH manager needs to be uninstalled.
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I am pretty sure the button IDs are mapped exactly as the original layout. GaryR (from this thread) did the mapping and sent me his config files. I cant really check myself since I only own (converted) gameport CH devices. Gary? Could you please comment on this? :joystick:
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Your correct COM port was probably COM4. You can try that next time. It usually is one higher than displayed in the manager.
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Thanks for the kind words Miles! I have found your Cougar thread and I am also following your new work, but dont have VR yet. Keep it up, you are doing an amazing job! Sokol got me hooked as well, he really is the flightsim DIY community Dad and a walking encyclopedia. :smilewink:
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Yeeees, kind of. Let me explain. The maximum supported electronic angle of my sensors is ~180°. Depending on the devices I can "hardcode" the angle via a couple of resistors on the PCB, therefore optimizing their max angle which corresponds to a voltage output between 0-5V. (In reality its a bit less, because the opamp doesnt operate rail to rail.) The resolution of analog devices like pots, hall sensors and (my) AMR sensors is theoretically infinite. Only the ADC (analog to digital converter) converts an analog voltage (range) into a digital signal which has a certain length of Bits. Obviously the more Bits you have, the smaller you can make the increments. So if your ADC reference voltage is set to GND aka 0V and supply voltage is 5V, the 12 Bits (4096 points) are evenly spaced out over these 5V. So your theoretical resolution is 1,22mV. Your pot is wired as a voltage divider, which means it varies the voltage output according to its angle. If your pot has an electrical range of lets say 120° but you are only physically using 70°, you will use only ~60% of the full voltage range which also means you are only using a range of 3V, or roughly 60% of the full 5V. That would mean your actual hardware resolution is ~2400 points or around 11,25 Bits. However, the Software will allow you to calibrate the axis and via interpolation will pretend full resolution. My sensors are designed to have the maximum output range at a certain angle and therefore as close to the full hardware (ADC) resolution as possible. TLDR: My sensors will work for your pedals, but I need an exact maximum angle to "hardcode" them to. Also check if they physically fit, as there needs to be space for the blue trim pot on the side.
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The current sensor electronics are optimized for one specific angle and to provide maximum resolution at that angle. While it is possible to use them for smaller angles, they cant be used for any larger ones. The maximum angle the current type supports is 180 degrees, so I am afraid 240° is out of its possibilities. That is only possible with programmable sensor ICs, such as Melexis. Problem is their programmer and additionally necessary expansion boards cost several grand.
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You have set the wrong COM port. When you reset the Arduino it will show the bootloader COM port. Thats the one you need to enter in the (green) COM port window.
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Id recommend an Arduino Pro Micro from ebay and installing MMJoy2. Cheaper and much more versatile than the Bodnar board. :)
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Good news! I can finally ship to Brazil and starting Sept. 15th also to the US again! So for anybody interested I am taking US orders again! Only drawback currently all packets will be sent by cargo ship and not via air freight, so the travel time increases to around 3 weeks. That stick looks pretty oldschool! Do you mean the Airbus TCS? If one of my sensor types looks like the pots inside, then it should work fine (together with an Arduino). From what I have seen TM always uses the same type of pots in their devices over the years. I have also made a replacement pot for the TM 16000M Z axis, that I havent shown yet. The FCC just eats up my time! :joystick:
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PM sent! Totally forgot to post updates about the F-22 and TQS. I have sensors for them tested and ready. I will attach a few pictures where you can see the the sensors with their nicely tapped threads that let you screw them in place. That this works well was also an important milestone for the Cougar ANT/RNG pots. :thumbup: The CH upgrade mainboards can connect to the TM shift registers and have 12 Bit axis resolution, so they would work. They are not a native fit sizewise, but thats nothing a drop of hot glue couldnt solve! :P (sorry about the sideways pictures)
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Here is another CAD screengrab so you can get a better idea on how this thing is gonna look. :joystick: Afaik the real stick is in line with the aircraft but the sensor axes are rotated 12 deg offset. If thats wrong please tell me and Ill fix it. The current plan is to do it Software side and Uri_bas FCC controller can do it. (https://github.com/uriba107/fcc_controller) It really is an amazing little piece of software from what I can tell. You can set the 12deg force offset, as well as use multiple force presets to model the digital and older analog FLCS, make your own force profile, etc. :thumbup: I havent found a way to contact him yet, but I will and really really hope to be allowed to use his awesome Software! Another nice coincidence is that the thing is programmed for the MCUs I normally work with on my Cougar standalone adapter and CH mainboards. In case anybody knows how to reach him, drop me PM! Ah yes. No worries, that will be integrated. Both the Warthog board and and also Uri_bas FCC controller can read out the TM sticks directly. I am just not sure if the Warthog board can read out axes directly without the use of an additional MCU, as it uses a one chip 3D Melexis sensor. If thats not the case, then I would simply go for the FCC controller on the Warthog as well and hopefully implement TARGET compatibility. :smilewink: Btw I need the communities help as I dont own a Warthog base myself. Could somebody help me out with the measurements for this plate? Or somebody from Europe could send it over for a couple of days? A flatbed scan might also work. I need the outer dimension, thickness and the borehole sizes + radii from center marked in the picture. Then I could make the Warthog version ready as well. I would really appreciate it! :thumbup:
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The Cougar version will use the Cougar mainboard. The Simpit version will have its own electronics incl. a 12 Bit ADC. The plan is to initially offer it as a Cougar mod and later (1-2 months) get the Simpit and Warthog versions out. Not sure yet, I havent progressed this far. I have a Warthog PCB here to play around with the electronics once the Cougar version is out. The buttons shouldnt really be any problem as the sticks simply run on 4021 shift regs. Do you mean by standalone having its own case? Thats not the plan currently, but should be easy peasy once the damn thing works properly in the first place. :P Gotcha! :)
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The communication with the awesome simpit guys was really fruitful and the new force sensing is progressing very well. I designed two variants initially to achieve the real original F-16 stick heighth and angle, something the FCC3 didnt do. So far all seemed to prefer the angled tailpiece variant, but I am really interested in more feedback! I also made a locking nut to original F-16 specs, although that piece is still beta and subject to change. Next step is getting the electronics production ready. Cheers! :thumbup: PS: I am targeting ~300€ pricerange for the Cougar version, maybe a bit less.
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Hey there, I received a bunch of 3D printed parts yesterday (see below) and now I'm in the process of assembling a new batch of sensors. The cougar stick sensors are mostly done already. Tomorrow I will start accepting new orders again! Sorry about the wait guys, I will answer all emails that piled up in the second half of August. I will also announce a few new and interesting products soon. I have a truckload of novel project PCBs incoming next week. The Force sensing is progressing very well. I am currently in cooperation with some very talented simpit builders from the Falcon BMS community to make the new force sensing base as close to the original as possible. I hope to improve on Arends already great FCC3 in a few points. Btw if anybody can help me out in how to build a website/ online shop (not shopify please) I'd be very interested. The email system is not very efficient sadly.
