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So, currently I am tied between the MiG-23M and MiG-23MLA/D. One's the true iconic retro original, and the other will be awesome to have against modern thingies... Dunno which is better! :D And as for secondary options below the MiG-23 in my wanted modules list is the Su-15 for fighters and Su-22/24 for strikers. Here's something stolen from the Wikipedia about the Su-15... :devil_2: AIRCRAFT: Su-15TM (just thought it to be important to mention that it is the Su-15TM variant) AVIONICS: "Taifun-M" Detection range: high/low flying targets 70km/15km Lock range: high/low flying targets 40km/10km Detection envelope: +30°/-10° Vertical; +/- 70° Horizontal WEAPONS: 2x R-98MR/MT (Range: 23km); 4x R-60 (Range: 8km); optional 2x gun pods (a practical must because as far as I know it did not carry a gun) WING LOADING: 555 kg/m² CLIMB RATE: 228 m/s COMBAT RANGE: 1,380 km MAX SPEED: Mach 2.1 (2,230 km/h) loaded at high altitude; Mach 2.5 clean at high altitude SERVICE CEILING: 18,100 m And just for comparison and for an argument why the MiG-23 is my favorite choice. Again, stolen from Wikipedia... :devil_2: (yup, again) AIRCRAFT: MiG-23MLD (again thought it to be important to mention aircraft variant with the aerodynamic upgrades on the MiG-23MLD) AVIONICS: "Sapfir-23MLA-II (radar)"; "TP-23ML (IRST)" Detection range ("Sapfir-23MLA-II" as the "TP-23ML" depended on the level of heat more than range): High/low flying targets >65/25 (fighter sized) Detection envelope: no data I could find WEAPONS: 1x Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23L cannon (200 rounds); 6x? R/T-23 (Range: 35km); 6x? R/T-24 (Range: 35km); 6x? R-60 (Range: 8km) Upgraded: 6x? R-73 (Range: 30km) WING LOADING: 420 kg/m² CLIMB RATE: 240 m/s COMBAT RANGE: 1,150 km MAX SPEED: Mach 2.32, 2,445 km/h at high altitude; Mach 1.14, 1,350 km/h at sea level SERVICE CEILING: 18,500 m

That AI patience is admirable. Cap, can you make a Flogger-Tommy match? See how the swing-wings match!?!? Sadly there's indeed a catch... As of the current patch, Both models are quite ugly. And for a chance I would pay fondly, To learn these magnificent birds. As for now, I only have words. So please as is coming the Tommy, Not getting the MiG is not that funny! >:[ That went from commenting about the AI, to wishing for a video, and then wishing for the MiG-23! :D

The MiG-21bis sorta gets the advantage here because if you pull stick full back, you're gonna stall... And oh does the MiG-21bis not behave in a stall, well it actually sorta does. You see a stall with high stick deflection in a MiG-21bis takes it's time in moving the nose (which is why you get the instinct to re-center the stick the moment your aircraft starts to turn slower in a tight turn). After let's say 1 or 2 seconds you start hearing really scary noises as the AoA increases, the plane slows, but the nose doesn't move anywhere. And then you just drop... And drop... And really start regretting not re-centering the stick fast enough... Now at low altitudes that "nose up drop" is a death sentence because you need a lot of altitude with the stick centered to regain control. And if you keep that nose up, you ded. Now after one time of that "DCS: horror story" you quickly learn to "ride the yellow". Which allows you to turn quick for what is practically an unlimited time in a fight (as long as you have fuel). :D

I have experienced the clicks as well, both on takeoff and landing. But this far not experienced no noise at all. The first time I heard those I panicked and thought some important circuit-breakers had gone out... Then remembered that you can't even touch the circuit breakers on the MiG-21bis. :Flush: Damn you LN! You trolled me! :D Also I think this thread would better fit in the bugs and problems section, so any admins moving it there would be great. What do you think LCYCowboy?

And of course the MiG-23 is needed on the Caucasus map, after all it served a major role in the Russian air forces. ;) But now I can't decide between the MiG-23M or the MiG-23MLA, both would offer perfect opposition for 1 of 2 groups... If one were to be developed now I would prefer the later MiG-23MLA, just because the Tommy is coming and coming fast! Though I would have no problem flying the older MiG-23M against it, after all we RED pilots specialize in having older birds. :D *EDIT* If we RED pilots specialize in having older equipment, why don't we have any WW2 birds!?!? Well, Matt Wagner said that they would get around to making RED WW2 birds when an Eastern front map would come out. If I had to pick a location I would get stuck between 2 options: 1) Baltic Sea map: Would allow for WW2 scenarios such as the Winter war, the Battle of the Blue Hills, the Siege of (at the time) Leningrad and a whole lot of modern/Cold-War scenarios with the Viggen shining in it's anti ship role. 2) Stalingrad map: Would be more iconic as a WW2 map with the infamous Battle of Stalingrad, but lack in it's potential for modern/Cold-War scenarios since it is deep inside Russia.

Ok, it has better instant turn than the MiG-21bis but "bleeds energy out of it's arse". And sustained turn relies on you being able to sustain corner speed, AoA and G's. :)

Will do!

Yup indeed, the Russians don't seem to have too much of a focus on naval aviation. After all they have their friends and enemies right next to them (except the US). Which means that you don't have to cross an ocean just to get to a major war (if on ever breaks out). Welp again, nothing we can do. The Caucasus isn't that focused on naval action anyway. Most of the stuff happens in the mountains. But the good thing with carrier capable stuff is that it's carrier capable, not exclusive. :) *EDIT* Congrats on the 1,000 posts mark! Gonna give you a Rep point. :)

Being required to counter the MiG-23, would in the first place require a MiG-23 (plez let my hope that it's being developed be true)! :D Now that would further come down to which version of the MiG-23 and F-4 are we going to get? For example if we get a late variant MiG-23 (MLA/D) it is going to be more competitive with the F-14 and modern thingies, and miles ahead of F-4's and Mirage F1's. But if we are going to get the truly iconic MiG-23M hen it is going to fit right in with the F-4 and Mirage F1, though not being as big of a step from the MiG-21bis against modern aircraft than the later versions would. :) I could go either way. One is the true retro original (MiG-23M), the other is going to have a heck of a chance against "modern" (the current meta isn't that modern cuz dat stuff is classified :() thingies.

Hmm... In my experience flying the little soviet rocket (MiG-21bis) against an AI M-2000c it is easy to beat in a turning contest. Though that may just be because of the superior maneuverability of the older but stronker Stalinium alloy air frame. :D Or it just could be that the auto-pilot AoA limits on the Mirage keep it from turning as tight a the MiG-21bis can riding the stall line. :P

I did sound a bit too negative in that post, but quantity is a quality in itself. :) It was (at least as far as I know) designed to be cheap. That meant that for such a new design it has the tech of a much older aircraft. And it worries me that even the Chinese (who were involved in the development) didn't buy it. So as far as i know it is the Chinese/Pakistani equivalent of the FA-50 or Yak-130. A cheap but competent design for not so rich countries. Of course unlike them the JF-17 doesn't also have the functionality of a trainer. And in the somewhat older DCS arena it is going to be a very competitive multi-role design! A good counterpart to the F/A-18 (minus the whole carrier part...). :D

Thx! :D

Dumb question i know... But what does Q3 mean? Is it the 3-rd quarter? Gonna vanish with shame now. :Flush:

If you mean internal, it doesn't come with it. But you can always use the gun-pods in A-A/A-G modes selected by the weapon selector. Then put your mode selector to engagement, safety off an things go boom! :D Same things with CM, it doesn't come with any built in. But you can always fit the pods with em'. :)

Agreed! MiG-23/29 (early) would be awesome! Though the F-4 would be cool as well, I would put priority on Russian birds. :) I think the MiG-23 (me likey M/MLA) would be a bit easier to get info on and is still very interesting (in my opinion more than the MiG-29), I think it would be a better candidate far a module. But who wouldn't want em' both? :D

As far as I know, no it's not. :( But we do have an awesome stream of other modules coming mid-late 2017/early 2018. From the retro BVR of the F-14A/B to the superb dogfight capabilities of the MiG-19p we all really have a lot to look forward to. And that's just for A-A! We have the AV-8B N/A coming for the strike jump-jet role, and the F/A-18 can do everything (well, it can't hover...)! :D And when looking in to the speculative range Leatherneck are cooking something and the RAZBAM MiG-23 (unlike the MiG-19p) was not given permission for because "unlike the MiG-23 the MiG-19 didn't conflict with already existing plans"... :P

On the brighter side (yes again), we have some awesome modules coming up to get learning! F-14A/B is going to be a very interesting BVR experience with older technology. AV-8N/A is going to be an awesome strike experience. The F/A-18 was teased to be "later this year" by Matt Wagner, and Leatherneck are cooking something... And we are hopefully going to get all these together with the MiG-19 THIS YEAR!!! :D Though it would be far more realistic to be expecting them in a constant stream of releases stretching from mid-late 2017 to early 2018. We live in an amazing time for simulators don't we? But sadly it only means one thing for our wallets... ;) So remember, for all of us here on Earth time moves at the same rate (if you are not flying or moving in any fast way). But enjoying the time spent makes it seem a lot faster. So in conclusion, we are going to have an awesome wait for the MiG-19! :)

Will be an interesting experience sharing workloads. :) For example when I am flying the AJS-37 with RB-04's I really feel like I could use another person to manage the targeting and ranging. While I focus on flying less than 10m to not get rekt by the modern SAM's on those ships. :D The RB-15's though... They are god-mode (70km range!), but the RB-04 has it's charms. ;)

That's sad, wont someone make a fundraiser? :( On a brighter note, still SHINY!!! :rotflmao: And if any SAM's try to also get love and attention... Back to your corner! Nobody likes you! :devil_2:

Nice seeing this in it's all new, all hovering sub-forum. :)

Nice! Though being able to boresight AIM-120's would be great. ;) But as far as I know it was never a thing (couldn't carry them), would be great in MP though! :D Still, gotta stay realistic. Wasn't an exact F-16 block 52 with no radar and a turboprop, but it sure is the closest thing in the world to such a contraption. :) *EDIT* Just noticed you said avionics wise... Shame on me. :I

Ok, thx! :D

As far as I know the plan is to get it out in late 2017/early 2018. But it can always turn out that something holds it back so conservatively, next year should be it. :)

Awesome! :D

Sorry for my dumb question, but at what stage in development are we going to start getting these awesome super-quick updates like we get on the Harrier? :D Or for that matter another dumb question... What stage in development is the "Super Tucano" in?