SlipBall

Yeah looking forward to seeing its ground handling, hope its not too tippy with use of the brakes...I read pilot reports that it was more stable then it was in IL-2(the game/sim)

Doh

I'm here now, so any minute :pilotfly:

Are you familiar with Erich Hartmann and his encounters with the P-51?...it is very much the pilot & happenstance my friend .

it's not so much the plane as it is the pilot, and happenstance :)

500 and 600 meters is ridiculous, bullets would have little energy left. If they hit anything they might even bounce off of it :smilewink:

Hold your fire till 70m then let it rip

Here's hoping that the 109 engine sounds are done well, as of 2014 no sim has gotten that close yet :thumbup:

Here is the one that I mentioned beginning at about 9:00 the deep rumble of other aircraft can be heard. Would the 109 pilots helmet filter this out, I just don't know...ignore the picture, I do ;)

I can understand why this issue is important for the on-line pilots, but for that 109 I did hear the other formation aircraft...so is close to RL sound important, with the coming K ?

From what I had heard/listening during a BF 109 cockpit recording in Real life of her joining a formation, other aircraft could be heard...so In RL: I think it is your engine RPM level and the closing distance thing, between the aircraft that determines being able to hear them or not

I'm going to wait so as to see how well the map is done, then I will decide on my aircraft :)

No, I was just showing the fuel problem that there was in 44, not the engine type in the 9

The Dora fuel seems just as complex: The fuel thing in 44 was a big problem I understand The 801C was replaced with the BMW 801 D-2 series engines in early 1942, which ran on C2/C3 100 octane fuel instead of the A/B/C/L's B4 87 octane, boosting takeoff power to 1,700 PS (1,677 hp, 1,250 kW). The BMW 801G-2 and H-2 models were D-2 engines modified for use in bomber roles with lower gear ratios for driving larger propellers, clockwise and counterclockwise respectively. Just like the 801B engine the 801H-2 engine did not leave the prototype stage. The D-2 models were tested with a system for injecting a 50-50 water-methanol mixture known as MW50 into the supercharger output to cool the charge, and thereby reduce backpressure. Some performance was gained, but at the cost of engine service life. Other boost systems using fuel for charge cooling, known as C3-injection, were developed and used until 1944. The serious fuel shortage in 1944 forced re-evaluating the MW50 system which was then installed instead of the C3-injection. With MW50 boosting takeoff power increased to 2,000 PS (1,470 kW), the C3-injection was initially only permitted for low altitude use and raised take-off power to 1870 PS. Later C3-injection systems were permitted for low-to-medium altitude use and raised take-off power to more than 1900 PS. With the engine being used in higher-altitude fighter roles, a number of attempts were made to address the limited performance of the original supercharger. The BMW 801E was a modification of the D-2 using different gear ratios that tuned the supercharger for higher altitudes. Although takeoff power was unaffected, cruise power increased over 100 hp (75 kW) and "high power" modes for climb and combat were likewise improved by up to 150 hp (110 kW). The E model was also used as the basis for the BMW 801R, which included a much more complex and powerful two-stage four-speed supercharger, as well as die cast hydronalium cyl. heads, strengthened crankshaft and pistons, and chromed cylinders and exhaust valves; it was anticipated this version would produce over 2,000 hp (1,500 kW; 2,000 PS) (or over 2,600 hp (1,900 kW; 2,600 PS) with methanol-water injection). In spite of these improvements, the E model was not widely used. Instead, continued improvements to the basic E model led to the BMW 801F, which dramatically improved performance across the board, with takeoff power increasing to 2,400 hp (1,790 kW). It was planned to use the F on all late-model Fw 190's, but the war ended before production started

It seems odd to me that you would lock the other K4 thread, care to explain yourself :smilewink:

thanks DB & Milo

true, but I wonder how many F's were still in service in France 1944

same here, I also hope for a long series life with possible other 109 variants offered :)

agree!...I said "perhaps" because I could not remember which one, but luthier did say he likes the F, so I guessed :)

The reason that the K4 was selected for the game, was simply because that is the version with the most documentation available to them. We were told this months ago that they had a long discussion for perhaps the Fredrick, but little documentation was available.

I'm pretty sure that other new aircraft are planned and will be include in the future...until then K4 rocks! :D

wow this is great for CLod too, thanks a lot!...I can edit my home base, and others, to look more historic with this great detail description...good find Milo :)

Thanks, that is great

So what do we know about when the K4 might become available to us, wasn't llya flying it around and doing some landings with her...2015 I hope, if not sooner

I prefer the 109, so much of the flying back then was of a stalking/surprise nature, and that is how I fly in these sims...the 109 could be very capable for that style and also a pleasure to fly I think. :)