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That wouldn't be historically accurate.

Do you recall the number of that T.O.?

Why would they not release an update for the Phantom in addition to scheduled updates?

It wasn't anything you did or said. It's all on someone else that accused players of being "low knowledge gamers that didn't care about history" and accused Heatblur of false advertisement. I won't mention any names but his initial is Vampyre.

I guess you better quit the game then since we don't have every single variant/livery/weapon/map to make missions that are historically accurate. If Heatblur had put an F-4G livery on an E for a video on SEAD, you'd still be griping. Most of us understand which livery was used doesn't really matter because that wasn't the point of the video, although I bet it did make some German players happy to see it. (The livery.) I am going to enjoy doing SEAD missions with the Phantom I worked on and you won't have to partake in that if you don't want to. Beautiful isn't it?

I laughed at the Champagne/sparkling wine reference. Well played sir, well played.

You have repeatedly attacked others motivations, players and Heatblur, and then to say I had an ad hominen attack is ridiculous and nothing more than projection on your part. You saying players are "low knowledge" or "they don't care about history" while standing on your pedestal refusing to acknowledge the role and capability of the F-4E in SEAD missions is elitist and dishonest. And coming from somone that professes to care about history? Well, let's just say it doesn't help your credibility.

@IronMike are there any plans for the AGM-78 Standard?

I looked this up. There were multiple variants of the Shrike and only 2 had the Mark 49 Mod 1 seeker that was capable of homing in on the SA-6 radar. Those two variants were the AGM-45A-9A and AGM-45B-9A.

Elitism at it's finest, errr worst.

That doesn't take into account that the F-4E's at Spangdahlem carried Shrikes also in the Wild Weasel role or that every other F-4E could also carry Shrikes. (This doesn't mean that every aircrew was trained in Wild Weasel missions, just that the airframes were capable.) Were you at Spangdahlem? Did you personally know anyone that was? I knew several, not just my old crew chief. Lastly, you are beginning to bore me with your tunnel vision.

Incorrect. We're simply saying its something as gamers that we have to deal with because we can never have every variant for historical accuracy in every possible scenario. I would also put forth that you are the only one creating the tempest in a teacup. I will again quote part of the website that shows the history of the USAF at Spangdahlem AB in Germany and highlight the important part that you might have missed. The F-4E's could, and did, carry Shrikes for killing the radar sites and that is historically accurate. That is what makes them capable of performing the Wild Weasel mission. No one is arguing that a German training squadron was doing Wild Weasel missions.

https://www.spangdahlem.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Article/293639/wing-history/ My first crew chief on a weapons load crew had just come from Spangdahlem AB in Germany where he worked on the F-4E and F-4G both of which could (and did) carry the Shrike on Wild Weasel missions. (He was pretty much in awe of those pilots cast iron cajones in deliberately attacking SAM sites.) If you notice, I said that "to my knowledge, ALL F-4E's could carry the Shrike which makes them capable of Wild Weasel missions", not that all of them were trained to do so. My comment was in response to someone saying that the 20th FS wasn't a Wild Weasel squadron. He's right of course but that doesn't mean the aircraft they flew weren't capable of Wild Weasel missions. Since this is a game/simulation and we'll never have every single variant that everyone desires, in many instances we'll just have to make do with what we've been offered. In this particular case, it's not to big of a stretch to have German F-4F's substituted by the F-4E, even for Wild Weasel missions. I know thats not ideal, but its what we have. All that said, your post definitely contained interesting information and I probably should have been more specific in my previous response.

To my knowledge, all of the E models could carry the Shrike which makes them all capable of Wild Weasel missions.

Thanks, I'll check it out. LibreOffice is another option I was pointed towards and it's working for some worksheets that came with a YouTube course I subscribed to but it seems less than perfect so far but it might be the PDFs and not LibreOffice.

I would pay for an F-14D. Heatblur, did you hear that?

I wouldn't say that everyone played AirWarrior as if it was Quake, many did but many others did not. I used to terrorize the Big Pac arena and always tried to make it back safe from fighting the Borg Cubes. I didn't always succeed in my goal of landing but then, no one did. -Elf-

Exactly. One time we (a friend and I) found a BDU-33 minus the spotting charge in a dumpster, so we snagged it and used it as a boat anchor.

I did the same job in the Air Force. We didn't use brass arming wire, it looked like steel to me but could have been something else. Funny how the Marines and the Air Force used different terms for the cartridges that went into the racks. We called them impulse cartridges and you guys called them Cartridge Actuating Devices. In the Air Force I was a 462X0 (the X was replaced by your skill level 3/5/7/9).

I have LibreOffice but I didn't know you can edit pdf's with it.

You certainly get your money's worth from your PDF reader.

I don't have an iPad and it looks like that is only available on the App Store. I will never use something like that on my iPhone because with my old eyes there just isn't enough real estate available to use it to read documents. I'm glad it works for you though.