Cornelius

Ich habe gerade eine Warthog Throttle, die ich als defekt bei Ebay ersteigert habe, relativ simpel wieder zum Laufen bringen können. Sie war voher von Windows nicht erkannt worden. Nur an einem passiven USB Hub wurde sie im Bootloader Modus erkannt, allerdings mit der Fehlermeldung, dass das Gerät nicht gestartet werden konnte. Die Bootloader Methode funktionierte deshalb auch nicht. Das Gerät tauchte nicht im Thrustmaster Bootloader auf. Hab das ganze mit mehreren Computern ausprobiert. Immer das selbe Problem. Erstmal Endstation. Was die Throttle am Ende wieder zum Leben erweckt hat, war den grossen "Chip" in der MItte und die Bauteile (Widerstände und Transistoren) an der Stelle, wo das USB Kabel angelötet ist, mit einer SMD Reflow Station für ca. 3 Minuten (auf 250°C) zu erhitzen. Habe die Teile vorher ordentlich mit Lötfett eingeschmiert. Die Reflowstation ist so ein billiges China Teil von Amazon für 35€. Wenn man irgendwie die ganzen Plastikteile abbekommen würde, könnte u.U. auch ein Backofen ausreichen. Edit: Achso, und die LED's waren in der unteren Hälfte auch aus. Da hat ein erneutes Anlöten des Kabels, auf der darüberliegenden Platine, das Problem behoben.

I also just bought one on eBay as a bargain, which was sold as defective (device is not recognized). But all attempts to reload the firmware (bootloader method) failed. I have tried 3 different computers, different USB hubs, tested the Cable etc. What was noticeable, however, was that it was recognized at least with an unpowered USB HUB, but with the error message that windows could not start the device and it didn't appear in the Firmware Loader. What finally brought the throttle back to life was to soak the pins of the Chip and the USB section (resistors and capacitors next to where the usb-cable is soldered to the board) in soldering grease and then simply heat them up with an SMD rework station (250°C) for about 3-4 minutes. Now it runs again without any problems. The rework station is a cheap china one (858D) for about 35€ from Amazon. Hope this helps.

I had simply concluded that the pressure of the incoming air (above certain speeds) would have some influence on the inertia and thus on the (negative) acceleration of the the engine. I did not even have in mind the boundary layer doors. Thank you, for your detailed explanation.

I wouldn't call it canopy closing sound. Both the canopy locking lever and canopy handle do some kind of click sounds, that's all I can hear.

...Says the one who went from whiteknight to hater and back to whiteknight in less than a week. Congratulations, this might be new world record! Expect a call from the Guiness foundation in the next few days.

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There's something wrong with this place anyway, where people that just hold on their criticism and don't fall into an endlessly grateful submissive attitude every time they do, being denounced as toxic, hateful and badly behaved people. That someone used such words in the whole discussion of the last week was extremely rare.

Could this also be finally addressed (or at least on the list) and be connected with this issue: But, in this case I've no idea how a trackfile would be of any help...

Okay. Thanks for clarification. Unfortunately i can't find any useful translation or explanation about what a cannon plug is* :) As I understand it now you have to be on the ground to hear that sound, while in vertical flight it would mean that you are in free fall before you are able to hear it. In horizontal flight, the air which enters the engine will prevent a rapid reduction of the RPM anyway. In my opinion this should be addressed together with the Engine Spool time and responsiveness and then probably get it's own bug report... *

trackfile added and the other topic separated in first post

Well said Viper!

I understand what you are getting at and I've played the game with Razbam before. Just be happy that someone answers. Not one more time! However, I Just keep quiet now.

A wall of text, which is missing the point and not adressing the main points of criticism. Period.

Currently the spool down sound is not audible when the canopy is open in the F2 exterior view probably in Multiplayer from other players (could not test) N̶e̶e̶d̶s̶ ̶m̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶c̶l̶a̶r̶i̶f̶i̶c̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶b̶a̶b̶l̶y̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶o̶w̶n̶ ̶b̶u̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶p̶o̶r̶t̶:̶ ̶F̶u̶r̶t̶h̶e̶r̶m̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶p̶o̶o̶l̶ ̶d̶o̶w̶n̶ ̶s̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶u̶d̶i̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶d̶u̶r̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶l̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶a̶s̶e̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶d̶e̶c̶e̶l̶e̶r̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶s̶o̶l̶e̶n̶o̶i̶d̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶a̶c̶t̶i̶v̶a̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶w̶e̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶e̶l̶s̶,̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶c̶o̶r̶r̶e̶c̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶i̶n̶f̶o̶r̶m̶e̶d̶.̶ missing Spool downl.trk

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This was not meant as an insult. You seemed to be more and more obsessed about something. After all, it's Saturday night. You can't be serious about the money part. There are people for whom even the 35 $/Euro sale price has a certain value.

You sound like you are already out with the boys and will have kebab later again...

I'm afraid your little history excursion won't change his mind. But thanks for these insights! It fits perfectly into the picture.

Yes, that's exactly what it was! Everyone was hostile and toxic, otherwise there were no problems :rolleyes:

they just do not get it

Many here have evolved long time ago past the stage of acting like a dog that wags its tail when a bone is presented to him

It's really sad, that people always had to loose their temper, before someone felt obligated to answer and their concerns where addressed. There have always been quiet voices saying that something is wrong here, but they were labeled toxic or hater, remember? Now that the full extent of the situation has come to light, got extra inflamed on discord instead of taking a stand here, and the ED management just didn't say anything about it, are you surprised that people got mad?

Yeah, you would think so. But in this interview a different reality is narrated. "The primary source of revenue is made from creating and supporting training tools for armed forces."

I have never accused you of using covid as an excuse.

it is very honorable that you are defending your contractor and we can all be very grateful for your content, but this is not about why the manual is not there, but amongst other things, why the module could go out of early access without the manual.I also don't like the fact that your problem with covid is being used as an excuse. If someone falls out due to illness or other reasons you have to find another way to do it, or delay it or whatever... Hope that covid thing didn't hit you too hard.