Cornelius

I buried my hope right away, because to talk to Razbam and " assist them with bugs " is now the consequence of everything. The time to talk to Razbam is long over and they have shown more than once that they are not willing and ED has already slept all this in the past or was also not willing. Because actually, they really should have done something substantial now, like bring it back to EA, etc. I don't know either what to be patient for. A big surprise? the weekend? Things calming down? Every module that is to leave EA should be subject to a quality check by ED before. I've really a hard time believing that this is not already the case. After all, there is a (?quality-) check when a module enters it and that this RazbamGuy insists that it is not in their hands does not make it more convincing.

Yes, these are 2 really important questions. Because nothing real has happened yet. Only: "Stay tuned, we are working on it" and the community bug tracker thread closed. And while their primary texture artist says: "Nonsense! ONLY ED can take the Harrier out of the ea, the one who says that is just a community manager and has no idea!", says the community manager:" Nonsense! Only Razbam can take the module out of ea, the one who says that is just a texture artist and has no idea!". :punch:

primary in-house texture artist :D

Why would he write that? And he is not an unimportant employee either, as far as I can tell. This whole thing is very strange

Dear NineLine. I know that you act as a buffer between us, your bosses and many others, which is especially in this case certainly very grueling. My goal is not to bring this to a head. I think what we are all aiming at here is that a decision maker should move out of the comfort zone in this regard and make some real decisions!

You can think of it as me making things up, but as I have written elsewhere, after 3 years of razbam you have your experiences. Somehow ED has always tolerated their business practices, but so openly in context with this "quiet and secretly out of EA" is really a new quality.

I must say, that I see ED now through different eyes because of how they react here. It seems that they are trying to ride this whole debacle out.

:thumbup:

O.k. We'll see... But I have also seen all kinds of things from Razbam during the 3 years, not to be in the least convinced that they will change. So far again only one more announcement of a pressure easing action plan. Nothing more. Besides, communication was always doomed to fail because there was mostly no real progress. You cannot "communicate that away".

Hostile to those who consider criticism a personal attack. But it's probably more a matter of not wanting to let the rabble explain them their work.

Jabbers BMS Interview First result (Reddit)

Tell them to sell their stuff on their website, that would be a start. But sure, the first visible action after this meltdown, was to close the Community Bug Tracker thread. What a statement. Bravo!

is there anyone else who still has not realised that out of ea does not mean bug free?:yawn:

Again many great suggestions what could go better. People who want take razbam under their wing. Been there, done that. But the outcome of this collective disappointment, will only be calming pills. Remember my words! They have proven several times that this is their way of working and the don't want to change. We’ve had this kind of thing here a few times. One time the bug-“tracker” came out of it, another time the community-“manager”. Big BLAH, BLAH & nothing changed! As soon as things had calmed down again, it went for raZzzzzzbam back into standby-mode. Slowly but steady. Refund is really the only viable solution here. Although. I would prefer to have the Harrier taken away from them and finished by someone else. Both fantasy, but also not more than razbam will ever change. And since R. Zambrano has already told us that DCS is only a by-product for his company, I doubt even that voting with the wallet makes any difference. @Eldur The exact thing, seriously?

Even a blind man with a crutch can see what is going on here. Razbam has once again pulled a little trick out of their hat. This time to not break ones word, but nevertheless be able to work on new modules. Not the first one, most likely not the last. Just a reminder: Why Why^2 After 9 months still nothing has happened, but quietly and secretly out of the EA & feature complete!? What I find more and more disgusting is that ED seems to fully cover this behavior. And that really casts bad light on DCS as a whole. It's not only the most realistically modeled, but also the most half-baked AV8B-Simulation available for the public. Sad. And even the most simple minded should now have realised, that rb no longer intends to bring the whole harrier project to a serious completion.

It's really sad, that people always have to loose their temper, before someone feels obligated to answer.

through copy & paste

still better than trying to act superior by judging from the peanut gallery after having contributed to exactly nothing.

Great News!

um, when did the harrier leave early access? Cannot remember...

The caravan had moved on. Actually crowd is hailing the Hind.

Just repeated my benchmark test with changing textures from high to low (edit: and msaa2x to 4x and shadows flat/default) with and without deleting shaders and must admit I stand corrected. About a year ago this was a complete opposite. Thank you for pointing this out, guys.

This must be some kind of mistake

Afaik, this was Razban's only comment about this initiative (almost a week later...)