Attention. The Q-5II in the poll, I actually meant Q-5III.
Before you start get all excited, I am not connected with Deka and this is only a wishlist thread for friendly discussion and a place to express our desire for certain planes. The choice is still Deka's.
While Deka hasn't decide their next project or module yet, some of their members did express some desire of making an older plane which has no MFD, and it should be a unique plane.
So I dug around and came up with the following:
1：J-12 Li Xiangyang
In the late 60s, China wanted to have a new fighter that can out match the MiG-19 and MiG-21 (mainly MiG-21F-13 since it was the only variant known to the public) in all aspect. It should be able to outmaneuver the MiG-19, at the same time must be able to out-accelerate and out-climb the MiG-21.
At the time, the Chinese Air force was experimenting a new type of air battle doctrine know as "People's Air War", a spin off of the "People's War" Doctrine. In People's War doctrine, in case of invasion, the military should give weapons such as rifles and grenades to the people to arm the people. So when situation needed or when opportunity present itself, people can take arms against invaders. This doctrine worked well during the WW2 and the Civilian war. Whenever enemy enters a location, the people are civilian by day, guerrillas fighters by night. Since most of the Communists pilots were once upon a time such an guerrillas fighter, they came up with this People's air war doctrine where the state will design a simple, easy to maintain fighter that can take off from farms and must be small enough to hide in the barn. And the state will distribute those fighters to the people so whenever an foreign fighter enters Chinese air space, people can just take off and intercept them. The enemy won't even know where did the interceptors come from.
Since the fighter is design to fight this new air guerrilla war, it was named Li Xiangyang, a well know WW2 communist guerrilla war hero on one of the well known TV series at the time. Li Xiangyang is actually an artistically created composite character mainly based on the life of war hero Guo Xin (please see pictures below)
Picture 1: Li Xiangyang on the popular TV series
Picture 2: Guo Xin
Since Li Xiangyang always uses 2 Mauser C96 pistols, he was giving a nicky name "Twin gunner". Therefore, J-12 was giving 2 cannons, 1 in 23mm (120 rounds) and another in 30mm (80 rounds). 2 wing tip pylons was also giving for the PL-2B missiles (probably the equivalent of the AIM-9E).
Later, the design requirement was changed since it was obvious, in contemporary warfare, an aircraft must have BVR search capability is essential for all weather operations, a radar was added to the design.
The aircraft has a climb rate of 180m/s, a ceiling of 17410m, but due to its small size and weight (3.1 ton), it only has a max speed of 1.5 mach and a max range of 1167km without external tanks. (And even with all external tanks, it can only have a range of 1358km). And it only need less than 500 meters for take off. It had fulfilled all the initial requirements. However, the People's Air War doctrine was eventually gave up be the air force because it is highly unpractical and uneconomical. Since the range is so short, if you give this plane to villagers, it can only be used to protect the village and maybe a few other villages and towns close by. Spending millions of yuan just to protect a few villages isn't considered a good way to use tax payer's money. If you want to protect the whole nation with fighters like those, even the US today probably doesn't have that kind of money. At the same time, a few J-8s with professionally trained pilot can do the job better with much lowered cost by comparison (Due to J-8's long-range and 2.2 mach top speed, 2.4 mach if you ignore the safety protocal). Therefore, the air force eventually gave up on the J-12. But nevertheless, it was still a cool concept. Just image if it was implemented and everybody has their jet fighters. That is some good world setting for the future Final Fantasy Game right there.
2: La-11
This is probably the first fighter aircraft that had entered the PLAAF service in mass. It was used in Korea War by Chinese Air force against US P-51s and F4Us. Say, someone is making F4U as we speak, right?
3: IL-10
Good old beast used by PLAAF in Korea War. If PLAAF had started to use Q for their attacker designation at the time, this will no doubt to be the Q-1.
4: Tu-2
Used mainly in Korea War, withdraw from the service after H-5 entered the service.
Now the following planes I had already mentioned in my previous thread. If you want more info about them please see the link https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=249861
5: J-5A
The Chinese variant of MiG-17PF.
Unlike the Soviet MiG-17 variants, between the radar, missiles, and cannons, you can only have 2 of them, but never all of them. For example: MiG-17F has missile and cannon, but no radar; MiG-17PF has radar, cannon but no missiles; and MiG-17PM has missile and radar but no cannon.
But for J-5A (please see picture below), it has 3x23mm, a radar and 2 hardpoints for PL-1(K-5) and PL-1B(K-55) missiles.
6: J-6III
A unique variant of Chinese MiG-19 with redesigned wings and air intake to increase climb rate, maneuverability and speed.
7: J-8I
It is the first true Chinese designed plane. It is a high-altitude, high-speed interceptor that was designed to go after any strategic recon planes like the U-2 and any strategic bombers that may threaten the nation's safety.
It has amaximum speed of Mach 2.2, a service ceiling of over 20,000m, a sea-level climb rate of 200m/s, and a combat radius of 750~1,000km.
The J-8E is the final variant of the the J-8I series and all domestic variants of J-8I have been upgraded to J-8E standard.
J-8E is equiped with a type 204 (JL-7) mono-pulse fire-control radar, SM-8A aeronautical optical gun-sight, onboard computer, new cockpit panel, and redesign ejection escape system and oxygen supply system. The original two Type 30-I 30mm cannons were replaced by two Type 23-III 23mm cannons. The four under-wing stores stations are capable of carrying the more advanced PL-5 series short-range AAM. These aircraft were also fitted with an improved electronic countermeasures (ECM) suite including KJ-8602B all-aspect radar warning receiver (RWR).
8: Q-5III
Q-5 is an attacker plane design by China during the cold war.
Q-5III is the most iconic and internationally most widespread version. And it is the first variant equiped with an all aspect RWR.
Crew: One
Wingspan: 9.68m
Length: 16.727m
Height: 4.19m
Empty weight: 6,400kg
Normal take-off weight: 9,530kg
Max take-off weight: 11,317kg
Max weapon payload: 2,000kg
Max speed: Mach 1.12 (sea level) or Mach 1.5 (10,975m)
Range: Ferry range less than 2,000km with two drop tanks, combat radius 400km on a lo-lo-lo attack mission with maximum warload, or 600km on a hi-lo-hi attack mission with maximum warload
Service ceiling: 16,500m
9: Q-5D
The best variant in service.
introduced during the 1996 Taiwan Strait Crisis, the separate doppler navigation system and GPS of the Q-5C was replaced by the DG-1 integrated doppler navigation/GPS system. Other systems included the ALR-1 Laser rangefinder/Marked Target seeker and QHK-10 Head Up Display. A new weapon aiming sight, the SH-1II, replaced the older SH-1I, and No. 5311 Factory managed to successfully integrate this sight with the new laser range finder and Type 205 navigation radar.
Some unconfirmed images indicates that this variant of Q-5 is upgraded to equip a new targeting pod to guide laser guided bombs.
10: H-5
If this is made, it will be the first dedicated bomber of the DCS series.
It can be used to simulate a variety of scenario from 60s to 90s.
Since it is long out of service, there wouldn't be any issues from the government.
Now, I know some of you may want to ask, where is J-7. Well, J-7G is most iconic variant in Chinese J-7 designs now. And it has a lot of MFDs :P
So if you love that one, feel free to leave a comment here and vote in this link below.
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=249861
