J-20

Wait, does this thing have a RWR?

Korean map make more sense in this regard. Since this "taiwan" thing isn't recognised by anybody, it is not presented in DCS. So having this "taiwan" doesn't make much sense. Korea on the other hand makes more sense as many factions would get involved IF conflict rises. Factions like China, Russia, US, both Korea and Japan, and maybe Canada as well. Another possibility is Kashmir region. For started, it is a region where 3 powers clashes, since it has a disputed border between China, India and Pakistan. Not to mention we just got JF-17. Besides, for people who doesn't enjoy conflict and war, this map would be super since it has mountain Everest. Just imagine the scenery. ;)

The issue is China doesn't have MiG-21bis. The closest thing China has is the J-7III series, which was based on MiG-21MF airframe. But even the basic variant of the J-7III series had over 200 improvements over the MiG-21MF, not to mention a new cockpit and radar. Agree, I like that idea too. It will be cool if we have the distinctive Chinese variants. Please come and vote in this link https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=249861

?? No. Razbam agreed to add PL-2B on MiG-19. The one JF-17 has is PL-5EII.

This is such a silly and unrealistic movie. But still, it is even sillier to see Mirage 2000 pilots who think they are going to get the best of JF-17. lol I don't know where did they get all those confidence.

There is no such thing as J-11A block II. There is only the J-11B. By the way, none of the J-11 series (including J-11D) has air-refuel prob.

I heard there are quite the difference between the F-14A and F-14B. In fact there are more differences between F-14A and B then between JF-17b1 and b2. That's why I was suggesting to get a WS-13 engine upgrade as an option at the mission editor just like Razbam did to their SPO-2 upgrade for their MiG-19. Maybe we can choose to have AAR the same way as the SPO-2 in the mission editor too. Alternatively, we can treat it as a pylon in the loadout.

Have you even been reading the posts? I specifically said like the F-5E and F-5E3 we have. That mean no. They are updating the block I to block II. So all they need to do is to keep the old block I files, then we can have 2 versions of the plane. In fact, they had done the same to P-51. If you check the game, there are 2 P-51 variants in the game. Frankly, I don't own F-5E module. I only noticed there are 2 version of F-5 listed as flyable when I was making multiplayer missions for my friends. Same goes for P-51. There are 2 variants for P-51. That I know for sure since I flied both of them.

What's the purpose of having MiG-15 and MiG-19, since we already have MiG-21? Why are we having R-60, AIM-9B and AIM-7F when we already hav R-60M, AIM-9M and AIM-7M? More choices are already better. We can simulation the hanger management. For example: this team can only have so many particular version of aircraft and once you run out you run out. This would be particularly useful once the ED release dynamic campaign system.

That's not simulating, just pretending.

If I remember correctly, Deka once said they are going to make Chinese planes only.

The purpose of having 2 versions of plane is to simulate different era and different scenarios. Just like the 2 F-5E we are getting. They are 2 different plane released in different years to face different enemy. Cockpit shouldn't be a factor in this as they would want to have the cockpit remain the same so it is easy to convert pilots from the previous version to the current ones.

No, it did say JF-17 was introduced. That was the first line. Now they deleted that line after this report.

Here is one more idea. RAZBAM made this MiG-19P module where you can decide to install SPO-2 RWR or not in the mission editor. So how about do the same for JF-17's WS-13 engine? China had already made some JF-17 with that engine and demonstrated to Pakistan. It's just Pakistan hasn't purchased yet.

Me too, I am getting this too. And I am getting this log as well: 00000.023 --- Log file: D:\DCS World\autoupdate_log.txt 00000.000 === Log opened UTC 2019-12-24 17:44:16 00000.014 INFO : DCS_Updater/2.9.8.81 (Windows NT 10.0.18363; Win64; en-AU) 00000.014 INFO : cmdline: "D:\DCS World\bin\dcs_updater.exe" --apply install DEKA_JF-17 POLYCHOPSIM_SA342 00000.018 STATUS: Initializing... 00000.022 INFO : basedir: D:\DCS World 00000.023 INFO : DCS/2.5.5.41371 (x86_64; EN; WORLD,MIG-15BIS,MIG-21BIS,FC3,P-51D,SU27-ULTIMATE_campaign,RAZBAM_MIG19P,PERSIANGULF_terrain) 00000.024 INFO : branch: 00000.024 STATUS: Connecting to update servers... 00002.160 INFO : Got reply from http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com 00004.208 INFO : Got reply from srv13update.digitalcombatsimulator.com 00004.209 STATUS: Verifying cached version info... 00005.161 STATUS: Preparing to install DEKA_JF-17,POLYCHOPSIM_SA342 ... 00006.133 ERROR: Unknown module DEKA_JF-17 00008.622 === Log closed. 00000.000 === Log opened UTC 2019-12-24 17:45:50 00000.014 INFO : DCS_Updater/2.9.8.81 (Windows NT 10.0.18363; Win64; en-AU) 00000.014 INFO : cmdline: "D:\DCS World\bin\dcs_updater.exe" --apply install DEKA_JF-17 00000.018 STATUS: Initializing... 00000.021 INFO : basedir: D:\DCS World 00000.021 INFO : DCS/2.5.5.41371 (x86_64; EN; WORLD,MIG-15BIS,MIG-21BIS,FC3,P-51D,SU27-ULTIMATE_campaign,RAZBAM_MIG19P,PERSIANGULF_terrain) 00000.021 INFO : branch: 00000.021 STATUS: Connecting to update servers... 00002.224 INFO : Got reply from http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com 00004.828 INFO : Got reply from srv6update.digitalcombatsimulator.com 00004.830 STATUS: Verifying cached version info... 00005.317 STATUS: Preparing to install DEKA_JF-17 ... 00005.774 ERROR: Unknown module DEKA_JF-17 00007.166 === Log closed.

No it hasn't, nor should it be. For realism SD-10 shouldn't nerfed, it is the AIM-120 should be buffed.

Hi guys. I heard that Deka team is going to update this aircraft from block I to block II in the future. I would like to suggest that instead of upgrade the current plane into block II, let's have 2 separate planes instead. Just like the other team did with their F-5E and F-5E3 and the 2 P-51 variants we have. This way, we can simulate different scenarios. Edited: Here is one more idea. RAZBAM made this MiG-19P module where you can decide to install SPO-2 RWR or not in the mission editor. So how about do the same for JF-17's WP-13 engine? China had already made some JF-17 with that engine and demonstrated to Pakistan. It's just Pakistan hasn't purchased yet. Also Not only we get the block I and II, we also need to have the Chinese Variant. I know some of you guys will be confused since JF-17 hasn't been accepted into the service of the Chinese military. Yes, true. But Chinese have some JF-17 as demonstrator. They use those aircraft to show the potential buyers how good JF-17 is. The Chinese variant has some advantage over the Pakistan version. For example: The Chinese JF-17 block II demonstrators have at least 3 advantages: 1: Helmet aiming sight for missiles. 2: WS-13 Engine 3: PL-8 and PL-9 missiles Pakistan didn't purchase those due to budget constrains. I think this will be good for Deka team if this is made, since it will be a good advertisement for JF-17.

Hi Deka team: There is a question I wanted to ask. You see if you pull more than 6G in a MiG-19, your R-3 missile will break off from the pylon. I heard that this is partially due to the poor design of both pylon and the missile. Did they fix this on PL-2B? Razbam has already agreed to add PL-2B, I was wonder if PL-2B has fixed the problem so we can pull as many G as we like. If so, we need to tell Razbam.

Hi guys, I heard that you guys are planning on making F-8. Can you make A-7 too. Since they have some similarities, and the carrier operation module is being made as well.

This is just a shock to me as well. I never imaged that one of the manager from my beloved game which I had supported for so many years would say something like this. :mad:

No need to care what those people think. They have been living in their mindset that they are superior. When the facts suddenly shows them that they are not, they have problem adjust. That's just good old Russian talk. They lived entire cold war providing weapons to China, they just can't handle that fact that China has already exceed the Russia. I remember a while back, when China heard that the Russian carrier need to go through the repair, they made an offer to the Russian to use Chinese dry dock company. But what did Russian say? "No need, we have better dry dock". Then their carrier sank their own dry dock. :megalol:

OK, can we have R-73 added for our MiG-21bis then?

Z-10 is a bit too new to be added I think. But maybe we can get a WZ-9 in the future.

This "eventual" can be a very long time.

A Chinese who tries to leak their own state secret?? This thread is capital offense.