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I am running a 5800X with a 3090 and 32GB. Works very well.

Eduard at VKB Europe got back to my question direct to him: expected in approximately two months. I think we should all treat this as a best faith estimate, not a promise. (Thanks StreakEagle: I saw your display rack... nice job. I do have woodwork skills and a workshop, but I'd rather the neat VKB stands once they are available.)

Like this: https://flightsimcontrols.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/MCGU-5.jpg Can we buy these... I have multiple grips and would like something neat like this display stand to arrange spare grips on my bookshelf.

I'll wait for the slow boat from China. Plus a grip without Z-axis / rudder control.

Coming from Rift S to Reverb G2, my impressions: G2 image quality on sweet spot much improved. G2 colours, much improved G2 rays and shimmer, much improved G2 frame rates, with beefy hardware much improved G2 sound quality, miles better G2 microphone, it works well. Rift S microphone useless. But, G2 comfort, worse G2 sweet spot, smaller but perhaps so noticeable because it is so clear in the sweet spot. This was a surprise and disappointment to me given the rave reviews from the Youtubers given preview units. G2 tracking in DCS, worse. Not a deal breaker, but not as clear as the Rift S when looking down at cockpit Manual IPD does not make much difference to me. FOV not noticeably different. G2 much, much more demanding on hardware. G2 is an significant upgrade from the Rift S for sure, but not the tour de force that I hoped it would be. Especially given the development time between the Rift S and G2 and the price differential. Plus the whole launch bollox of the G2 definitely soured the experience for me.

1) Not out of the question: just compromised. 2) Get a new bigger PC case. Of course, this is extra expense that you might not want to spend. Upgrade point: true. 50% G2 equivalent to G1: is it? (I just to have a Rift S, but have no experience of the G1). Why: poorer lens? Just as demanding on hardware on comparable basis though.

In which case why have a G2...? You'd be better off with an Index or Rift S or something less demanding.

Not sure if you read this thread... worth reading as there is some data comparing the new top four cards against the 2080 Ti. Also some discussion on fps stability and VRAM limitiations.

What a charmer. There. That wasn't so difficult was it? Plenty of people in the community - including me - are more than happy to help others in areas where they know more about a particular subject. I have no prior experience of helicopters, but I though I would ask seeing as you appeared to know what you were talking about. Yet when I see you dismiss Virpil's new products by saying ... ... and then I look at your suggestions from Pro Flight Trainer and Komodo which look like cheaper materials and manufacturing than Virpil and more expensive than your "<$300 or don't bother" comment no wonder why you made the "google is your friend" comment. You really didn't have any value added after all.

No, I don't think you do need 90 fps. As someone earlier said the consistency of the frames is probably just as important as the average fps itself (within reason). I think mileage varies person to person, but for me at least 40 fps with consistency is good enough. However, I am prepared to sacrifice some quality options to get higher consistent fps now that I have a high refresh VR headset with the G2. And I just managed to buy a 6900 XT for delivery in a few days should I should be able to share my experience with that to forum users. Upgrading from a 2080 Ti. (And yes, I know, I know... Hardware Unboxed and everybody including their goldfish have said that the 6900 XT is poor value and it can't do DLSS or raytracing anywhere like Ampere. My only gaming application is DCS and I have the money to upgrade from 6800 XT despite the poor marginal fps return on investment.)

VR... try it. But to get good smooth high definition results on a G2 you will need top shelf PC equipment: Ryzen 5000 or >5GHz late gen Intel, 32GB of fast low latency RAM and either 6800 XT, 3090 or 6900 XT. So it gets expensive to do it well. In reality we could do with stronger GPUs than even what Ampere and NAVI 2 are offering us... you still need to turn settings down considerably to get 90 fps. But with the right kit VR is good... really good.

You didn't name, names... can you suggest one of the better small volume alternatives and one of the better replica standard options, please. Not trolling, but interested in the alternatives to this Virpil solution.

Your recommendations?

So are you saying that grips are sent directly from a Chinese warehouse to USA end users? But that for EU end users the grips take a two stage journey: step 1 from Chinese warehouse to EU importer and step 2 PostNL or DHL from EU importer to end user? For a total cost of $27 ($21 airlift plus €4.84 postage within the Netherlands). Or you are saying that grips sent to the US arrived on boat and so did not face the airlift surcharge? And by the way, most EU consumers do not live in the Netherlands so intra EU import costs will be much higher than €4.84... the cost to my country is an additional €24.20. Edit: BTW, thanks for explaining, but still not 100% clear with what you are telling me yet.

@AeroGatorWhy is the EU price (which includes European sales tax, but excludes shipping) so much more expensive than the US price? US price $275 Current exchange rate $1 = €0.81 US price converted €222 Netherlands VAT at 21% = €46 US price including EU VAT = €268 EU webshop asking €312. Big difference: why?

I used to use optical out into a hifi amplifier and home audio speakers. Of course you can turn it up to be f-ing load. But the great thing about the hifi is you can also turn it down low and get really high quality sound from it... Since switching to the VR with the G2, I am fairly happy with the sound from that and because of the integrated mic and VoiceAttack it makes more sense to go through the G2 for DCS at least.

The whole process is mucho complicated because you need to fiddle - at least potentially - with: NVidia Control Panel settings, WMR Settings, SteamVR Settings and DCS Settings. And because everyones' system is different... yeah. Complicated. I am going through the same kind of read up, change settings, test as you. I currently got vaguely similar hardware as you Mark (R7-5800x, 2080Ti, 32GB fast memory, SSD) but much better frame rates by following BIGNEWY's settings and then turning up the SteamVR from BIG's supersample 54% to... uhh think about 80% from memory. But I am waiting before really messing around and optimising for a new GPU: probably a 6900XT if I can get one. Failing that a 3080Ti or 3090. The next gen GPU should provide headroom for some more eye candy and maybe a slight increase in SteamVR supersample ration.

I was wondering this. I close my eyes. Flaming annoying. I wish they would fix it. Yesterday.

I tried warning people about the 3080 in DCS due to the potential for DRAM cap being hit on some scenarios. I think 6800XT+ or 3080 Ti + will be safer bets and more future / scenario proof for DCS.

No offence: I was asking a question about firmware. Not asking about your grip collection. There is a very specific question: will VKB be releasing firmware specific to the VKB to Thrustmaster Hornet grip adapter? @AeroGator are you able to answer this one, please?

I run an RTX 2080 Ti currently.

Well, indeed. And that is why I waited to get the VKB adapter for the Hornet in preference to filing down a second Warthog adapter. I suspect the Hornet adapter has different firmware so that you can distinguish between the Hornet grip and the Warthog grip. Let's wait to hear back from someone from VKB to confirm or refute.

451,48 pre dates Ampere. So it won't work. Turing and earlier, it will.

Everyone's a critic! Yeah, you are correct. Thanks. That is what you get for multi-tasking. But anyways, if it helps anyone then that is something good.

Message / question for VKB reps: A few weeks ago I bought a VKB Gunfighter II to Thrustmaster Hornet grip adapter from your EU store. Today I downloaded the latest "VKB Device Firmware v2.00.7 from the support section of your website. While there is firmware specific to the Thrustmaster Warthog grip, will you be providing firmware for the Thrustmaster Hornet grip? Thanks a bunch. Love and kisses. Flowers and bunny rabbits.