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My guess as well. As long as ED models it with the Merlin25 engine, does NOT model it with the saxophone exhausts (only the early couple hundreds or so out of almost 2300 had these), and does NOT include the flame dumpers (not normally used in day operations), we will be fine. That was by far the most common FB.VI configuration for day operations.

I agree. Zeros will be slaughtered by F4Us. KI84, KI100, and maybe N1K can give a Corsair a fight.

I would really really like an F6F Hellkitten to fly on this map. Like, really.

Well, I think that the 109K entered service after the Normandy landings, sometime in late 1944. The Dora may be a bit earlier than that. If someone has exact dates that would be nice to know. In any case they were a rarity till 1945. So, if we align the matchup to end of 44 start of 45, 150 octane fuel may be justified. Intruder squadrons Mosquitoes FB.VI on day missions beyond the front were also issued 150 octane and tuned to achieve +25 boost. I am not sure about the Coastal Command mosquitoes though. What about the coming P47-D? This one is going to struggle against MW50 109K/190D, if limited to factory standard boosts. Many groups overboosted their jugs up to 70” ish levels even on normal fuel. 56FG in particular were regularity doing this well before june 44, still in their razorbacks. The P-47M incorporated this as factory standard (72” MP) but D models were already flying like that.

NOOOOO! I think that it is absolutely vital that RAZBAM drop whatever they are doing and divert all manpower to completing the Mirage III ASAP. :smilewink: :music_whistling:

OK, in that case the only thing we can do until the module becomes available is to look at other games - which of course will be highly dependent on the specific implementations and quirks of each game’s flight models. In Aces High Mosquito FB.VI get to fight 109K and 190D and I have a bit of experience with that. Both the 109 and 190 have a significant speed advantage at all altitudes, and increase with altitude. There is no escaping from these planes. The 190D can BnZ the mossie from dusk till the cows come home - if it plays it timidly. In a knife fight the mossie EAT the dora, with a better circle and slow speed handling, specially if flaps are used. This assumes that the mossie can engage its WEP which makes a huge difference. The 109K is much closer to the mossie in a knife fight. Its major advantage is that it build energy incredibly fast, so if the mossie can’t win the fight quickly, it is very likely to lose. The 109k can also BnZ the mossie as much as it wants if it plays it safe and doesn’t push too hard. Should the fight start with E advantage to the mossie, both of these planes are in big trouble. The only escape for the Dora is to dive to very high speeds, and the 109 must try to evade long enough for it to equalize the energy states. One mistake from them all it takes for the quad hispanos to evaporate them. This is how it plays in Aces High.

Considering only day operations: Mosquitoes (FB.VI specifically) fought mostly 109G and 190A (radials). Even in 1945 over Norway the 109K and 190D were not common. In nearly all of these engagements the mossies started from a defensive position since they were focused on another mission, not air superiority. In day-ranger missions, FB.VI would bounce 109s and 190s if they had the advantage (surprise, numbers) and could make a quick kill and run away. If caught it would usually mean 1 or 2 low mossies vs. superior numbers of higher interceptors, so non of these are good indication. The place+time where FB.VI faced 109 and 190 in proper many-on-many melees was in Norway in 1945. Costal Command Banff wing Mosquitoes (often mixed with Beaufighters) were conducting anti-shipping raids. On several occasions they were intercepted by a mix of 109 and 190 (mostly G and A models) as they were egressing from the strike, escorting planes damaged by AAA and most of their ammo expended - not the most ideal initial conditions. Some of these engagements went in favor of the Luftwaffe, some in favor of the Mossies. Overall, the kills are close to even. As the risk of fighters increased during the final months of the war these raids were escorted by RAF Mustangs who took upon themselves the air combat while the mossies focused on the strike and getting out. To keep things in perspective when considering these anecdotes, one have to keep in mind that most FB.VI pilots were not trained as fighter pilots (though a few transitioned from fighters). They were trained and ordered to avoid fighters and seek to disengage when possible. The “fighter” mosquitoes were night-fighters which is a whole other thing from day fighters. The FB.VI entered service in mid 1943. 109K and 190D are late 1944. By that time FB.VIs that were going out on day-rangers required 150 octane fuel in order to compete. The “long nose” 190s were feared by the mosquito crews though they were rarely seen where FB.VIs operated.

Will we get an AI navigator like Jester for the F-14? I want a cockney lad named Jimmy :) Or, if 633 Squdron movie is to us what Top Gun is for the F-14 then his callsign will be Hoppy. “ ‘ere comes Barney Rubble on me Six O'clock it does! “

Really Bruv? I thought that you were from south England, didn’t know you were a Scot ;) :p

From here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4160206&postcount=232 Oh yes! I always said that if anyone makes a good high fidelity Mosquito or Mirage IIIc sim my credit card will come out so fast that the sonic boom will be heard all the way to the developers studio. Come ED - make me go boom!

The key phrase is “of its time”. The FB.VI is a mid 1943 plane. It will go up against 109K4 and 190D9 that are late 1944 planes. By that time the intruders/day rangers Mossies felt that they could no longer outrun the later German planes without the use of 150 octane fuel. All late war mosquito day rangers were done with 150 fuel mosquitoes. Also, FB.VI was optimized for low altitude combat and mostly operated under 10kft. In relative terms it will be reasonably fast on the deck, but will be left behind very quickly as altitude increases. It is highly dependent on what kind of FB.VI we get. If it is modeled with the flame dampers (day mossies shouldn’t!) we we loose a good few MPH. If it is modeled with the saxophone exhausts (it shouldn’t for most representative FB.VI!) it will lose a few MPH more. The combination of both will remove about 15 MPH from the deck speed - sadly, this is the configuration used in most of the historical flight tests documents. Either way, I’ll be here to throw it against the best anyone has to offer, allied or axis. When you fly mosquitoes it is all about going down with style!

They were razorbacks up to D-23. D-25 is the 1st one with bubble canopy. I don’t remember what happened to D-24. D-15 IIRC came off the production line with water injection as standard. Possibly the paddle blade prop too - they sure had them in the field, but I’m not sure about the exact time that became the factory standard.

Is the Mirage III still being worked on at all?