DCS Flying Legend Aircraft

back to subject...now

P-51D Mustang is what I am hoping for...I do think other discussion of engine wear and other stuff should be discussed in another thread..:music_whistling:

DCS/Accusim P-51?:D

DCS/Accusim P-51?:D

yea baby...P-51D all the way:thumbup:

Wear modeling:

Turn off the dust protectors & hover in your own dust cloud for a while :-)

- or start an engine & push the throttle up to auto before the GB warms up.

*** I think we should draw a thick line between damage and wear/deterioration modeling. For example there can be a case where you hover for x minutes in a dust cloud for 20 times and it will not cause any damage while a single hover 5*x will cause an engine failure. This would prove that wear modeling is not implemented - only damage modeling i.e. a [hover in dust cloud for more than 5*x minutes] => [engine failure] condition. Thus I hope it's clear that the existence of wear modeling in BS is not that obvious and, IMO, is not confirmed.

I can guarantee you that if you abuse the engines too much in BS2, eventually it will be impossible to start them at all due to engine wear. Your Ekran will just keep telling you to check the oil pressure. Even after it says "wait xxx seconds for repair", you still won't be able to fly anymore, and the only option is to quit the mission entirely. I know because I did this last week. I also had this happen a long time ago in BS1. It is not persistent between missions of course.

Please see the ***. I'm not having a go. I'm just technical.

Are you certain that's modelled? I've never noticed any ramifications from oil temperature not being correct.

Me neither. I've always started up using the automatic start and always cranked up to Auto throttle ass soon as I could (or the autostart routine did it). I even flew many missions with the "full" throttle setting with no consequences.

This would make me a HAPPY,HAPPY BOY!!!:thumbup:

Wear modeling:

 

*** I think we should draw a thick line between damage and wear/deterioration modeling. For example there can be a case where you hover for x minutes in a dust cloud for 20 times and it will not cause any damage while a single hover 5*x will cause an engine failure. This would prove that wear modeling is not implemented - only damage modeling i.e. a [hover in dust cloud for more than 5*x minutes] => [engine failure] condition. Thus I hope it's clear that the existence of wear modeling in BS is not that obvious and, IMO, is not confirmed.

 

Please see the ***. I'm not having a go. I'm just technical.

 

 

Me neither. I've always started up using the automatic start and always cranked up to Auto throttle ass soon as I could (or the autostart routine did it). I even flew many missions with the "full" throttle setting with no consequences.

Please Gents this thread is for DCS Flying Legends Aircraft..take your damage idea's on another thread...exit stage left>>>>>:joystick:

This would make me a HAPPY,HAPPY BOY!!!:thumbup:

 

Where is " Pappy " Boyington....and the " Black Sheep " squadron:thumbup:

Well, sadly if it's a "dakka dakka" plane, I won't be buying it :(

My interest was way too saturated in the literally hundreds of WW2 flying games that came before, not my cup of tea anymore.

If it's something with a jet engine though, maybe :)

To clarifythings and stop speculation.

 

Dust causes both wear and failure possibility. The first one is not so obvious but can be noticed carefully looking at your EGT. But nobody knows what will be earlier - failure or significant wear.

By the way, engine wear affects its failure probability so you can catch failure even after you leave the dust area.

Burning engines at TO... the approved practice is to have engine replaced and overhauled after 30 min of emergency TO rate running. WE do have in BS some deterioration and increased failure probability after 30 minutes. If EEC is off you can kill the engine faster.

Oil temperature... I really do not know did we imlemented it in project because the model of it was developed. Maybe not, though.

Some people just can't read I see..geez..

Please Gents this thread is for DCS Flying Legends Aircraft..take your damage idea's on another thread...exit stage left>>>>

Be respectful I wouldn't change thread topic if you started one...

Bearitall,

I don't want to sound disrespectful ,even if you may have a valid point there...but:

-are you aware that you are telling the "chief-physics-developer" of ED aka "Yo-Yo" where to put his answers ?!....:music_whistling:

Hey, you got balls! ;)

I don't think he knew that part Peter, but I had the same thought lol

Sooooo back on topic, I think DCS:Frisbee would be great

Look it's even got landing lights...

And based on what Yo-Yo said about Nevada (read Area 51)...well, there you have it...

Bearitall,

I don't want to sound disrespectful ,even if you may have a valid point there...but:

 

-are you aware that you are telling the "chief-physics-developer" of ED aka "Yo-Yo" where to put his answers ?!....:music_whistling:

 

Hey, you got balls! ;)

He should know better:music_whistling:

Nothing to do with having balls to say the obvious..If I remember correctly thread title is " DCs Flying Legends Aircraft " not engine damage...I do mean its nice to know these things..but this is not the thread for it...start a new one..

... than to inform people what the simulation engine is capable of? ;)

To clarifythings and stop speculation.

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Thank you for the clarification! This ends the dispute indeed. So I was wrong. Wear is modeled at least for major components. I've never noticed. I guess the Ka-50 governors and limiters really do a good job then. Also a good point on why to go manual-startup.

Please Gents this thread is for DCS Flying Legends Aircraft..take your damage idea's on another thread...exit stage left>>>>>:joystick:

To learn why it was related to the DCS FL please refer to post #187.

-are you aware that you are telling the "chief-physics-developer" of ED aka "Yo-Yo" where to put his answers ?!....:music_whistling:

This is the first time I saw ED developer "OT-ed" by a regular forum member :D

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Back on topic. Not another "Not like anyone gives a damn but I would like to see this aircraft!" though :P

Imagine this level of fidelity!

Dedicated to those who say flying without fighting is boring.

Jawohl !

BTW - Its:

Ordnung muss sein!

:P

Edit:

If the forums would be strictly run by this standards - more than 50% of the posts in this thread could be marked as OT and the thread should been closed anyway after post #7 because initial the post#1 was answered...:)

but we would miss many enlightening infos.

:music_whistling: My Answer;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-tbWKkJKZU&hd=1

Some people just can't read I see..geez..

 

Please Gents this thread is for DCS Flying Legends Aircraft..take your damage idea's on another thread...exit stage left>>>>

 

Be respectful I wouldn't change thread topic if you started one...

:D

For that your copy of DCS: P-51B will be stripped down to 4 cylinders.

:D

 

For that your copy of DCS: P-51B will be stripped down to 4 cylinders.

I would prefer the P-51D Mustang...and I will take it with 2 cylinders...if so be it...:smartass:

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A2A Simulations and DCS together...wow..nice dream...eh!!!

http://www.teamcombatleague.com/billj/MHA.wmv

I'd love to fly any legendary WW2 aircraft. The feel of prop engines humming as they start up, knowing every single ounce of fuel is modeled! :)

P-38 or P-47

A P-38 Lightning would be fantastic or "The Jug" P-47 Thunderbolt!

I have a sneaking feeling the first DCS legends comes with two planes. How else will we dogfight in single play?