Vekkinho Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) I thought one of its main tasks was also the interception of long-range cruise missiles (e.g. SRAM, ALCM) launched from those bombers (or ships/subs, I guess with TLAM-A) which would indicate that it's not limited to huge RCS targets only. True, it's not limited to huge RCS targets but it's a SARH missile which means it's limited to a radar sensitivity of a launching platform throughout its flight. It's limited to low maneuvering targets which all of the missiles you mentioned are. Now if there's B-52 flying 300kts @ 36,000ft Zaslon can track it at greater distance but if it's a M3,0 flying AGM-69 SRAM which is much smaller than a platform it was launched from there's really no point in engaging it with R-33 from 10nm... :smilewink: Edited March 10, 2014 by Vekkinho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
IvanK Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 GG a 5G C130 wont be flying for a long long time after (if) it gets home :)
Pilotasso Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Impossible for a used airframe (too many repairs by material removal and patched up areas over the years). a fresh off the factory C-130J perhaps, but I still doubt it. .
HellToupee Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Its a good idea to not have all your eggs in one basket aka stealth. Especially when you need an aircraft to serve as the eyes of the stealth aircraft you certainly cannot expect stealth when blasting a radar at full power.
GGTharos Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 It will get home. Bend the plane or take the missile, basically your choice :) GG a 5G C130 wont be flying for a long long time after (if) it gets home :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Frostie Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Its a good idea to not have all your eggs in one basket aka stealth. Especially when you need an aircraft to serve as the eyes of the stealth aircraft you certainly cannot expect stealth when blasting a radar at full power. That's where AESA radars with 'Low Probability Intercept' come into there own. You probably won't know it is emitting until it's too late. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
HellToupee Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 But not no probability, such factors as keeping power output low wont help if your trying to scan a large area or hoping to find another stealth aircraft, aircraft will detect the signals its just a matter of making the RWR smart enough to recognize it.
Weta43 Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 But not no probability, such factors as keeping power output low wont help if your trying to scan a large area or hoping to find another stealth aircraft, aircraft will detect the signals its just a matter of making the RWR smart enough to recognize it. If I wrote F-22 AESA instead of MiG-31 AESA, would you feel the same ? Cheers.
HellToupee Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Yes, i don't believe in magic. Nor have any allegiance to either side my home being Auckland :) Edited March 12, 2014 by HellToupee
OutOnTheOP Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 There's nothing magic about LPI radars, as best I know. Granted, I'm no expert on them, but my understanding is that they work across frequencies, so any RWR will only pick up short bursts across frequencies, and since it is not a sustained single frequency paint, it cannot tell the difference between the radar and the multitude of civilian radio transmitters and other assorted transmitters out there. Even in that case, it would theoretically be possible to get an RWR to pick it up, but the RWR would have to listen to all the frequencies covered, and then be smart enough to collate tiny bursts from different frequencies and put them all together. It would require VERY good direction-finding from the RWR antenna (as the direction would be the only common value for the transmission bursts), and then a ton of processing power to sort every transmission in the air.
snuffles Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 You've got over 800Mhz in your phone, who says 4, maybe 5Ghz dedicated hardware isn't possible for a protection system? I don't always openly list my things. But when I do, I put it in my signature.
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