wtf

[Guest EVIL-SCOTSMAN]

this is just fuxed up, last patch killed lomac, now am down to my last 2 keys and the saved key from my last 1.12 installation isnt being recognised and stargayshitcrapfag software is asking for one of my last keys cuz hardware has changed ?????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

this crap just isnt on, ED get rid of starforce, it isnt like your making millions out of lomac anyway, and the majority of ppl who play the game want an original copy anyway and will buy it regardless of if they can get a hax0red copy, all that being associated with the gay makers of SF is doing is harming your business, as people are staying away from titles with SF activation.

 

this is just unreal, we use the save reg utility only for gheyforce to do its own thing anyway.

 

I B unhappy

 

BTW, turning off serial and parallel ports firewire etc etc in your bios to free up irq's is seen as changed hardware in gheyforce, so if you had all your bios options turned on and for some reason were having a irq not less or equal error and you decide to free up some irq's to save from getting the error, SF will kick in and pwn ya, same as with a mobo bios flash.

[GGTharos]

How about your take a breath, unplug everything but your mouse, and try the reg key again ...

[Guest EVIL-SCOTSMAN]

only thing plugged in is, x52 = in before with last key, and mouse = same mouse as before.

 

the only thing i did was shutdown some things like serial port and parallel port to free up some irq's, but this was done when lockon was installed and it never caused the problem when i loaded lockon then ?

 

I did reinstall windows but no new hardware was added or anything taking out, only irq's have changed.

 

but i will try taking out the joystick and see if that works, but this is the second time this has happened to me.

 

EDIT:

 

negatory, it no work, now they are forcing me to use key number 2, arghhhh, watch this it will do same again further down the line and they will either A, make me wait ages for another key or B, make me buy the game again......

 

Its no wonder ppl hate starforce, up until now i had no problems with it, but this is it, ED you have to find another way of protecting your software for BS, I dont mind having a cd in the drive to play, but just get rid of SF as it is ghey....

[Ice]

With all the $1000.oo's you spend on hardware and tweaking and swapping. Its hardly surprising that StarForce wants a new activation.

 

Having said that, I am still on my first activation for this pc and Ive changed video cards 3 or 4 times. Reinstalled windows as many times and now running a roaming profile from a SBS machine. Never once been asked to reactivate.

 

If by chance you do run out. I do believe a "niceley written" email to ED will quickly supply you with a new set of keys.

 

Starforce is our friend. Without Starfoce we would not be getting Black Shark or Tank Killers. Or....

[Guest EVIL-SCOTSMAN]

ya dude, i undertsand, but thing is, i installed lockon to this new pc 3 weeks ago, i activated it then patched it upto 1.12, the patch borked it and since it was a factory install of windoze i decided that i would format and put things in the way i usually have them, now without any hardware being touched you would think that the key that was used to activate the game 3 weeks ago would work tonight ?

 

thats whats bugging me, i cant undertsand why its asking me to activate again, the last pc it was one, i took that apart heaps of times and it never once asked to activate again, the only thing i did was turn off serial and parallel ports and one firewire to free up irq's so i didnt get any game crashes due to shared irq's.

 

so its a mystery to me ????

 

thing that makes me more ticked off aswell, is the fact that ppl have run out before and had to wait 3+ weeks for a reply to there emails, some have waited that long and got keys others have waited that long and been told no keys are forthcoming for some reason, and I am not willing using up my keys, i am trying to keep them for as long as possible.

 

3 + weeks !!!

[GGTharos]

Very strange ... yes, take Ice's suggestion but also take care that your config is -exactly- the same as when you installed lomac ... meaning if you played around with the irq's /after/ installing lomac before, do the same now.

[SuperKungFu]

Although I don’t share his enthusiasm, I have to admit Starforce is hurting ED's business, even though it is preventing pirating, there's always other ways to prevent pirates such as unique cd key for each user? I always defended Lock On and its use to starforce, but sometime I have to look at the consumer’s point of view. Yes they have a reason to be angry because starforce screwed up something, that’s how it got its bad reputation. Almost all the people who bought Lock On Gold blamed it on starforce (even though it was Evolved Games fault) but starforce had to have been a factor somewhere otherwise the cds printed should have worked. That is why 75% of the players over at the Falcon forum do not like Lock On because of starforce. If ED does get rid of starforce, I’m pretty sure they will get more sales despite pirates, just take F4:AF for an example. It would also level the tension level people have with this game. There was also a thread that brought up starforce causing stutters. For a game that requires a lot of horsepower to run, I think we don’t need any program running in the background that would take away our precious fps. The reason I brought this up is because EVIL-SCOTSMAN is a respectable player, he has been for a long time. Normally noobs would bring up this topic for a long-time player rarely do. So ED might consider getting rid of starforce in future releases. (It will probably still be in 1.2 Black Shark) This is just my 2 cents. Now let the flaming war begin, just remember, everyone is entitled it their own opinion.

[Guest EVIL-SCOTSMAN]

ahwell, its re-activated, lets just hope it never ever asks me to do so again, or i will take SF up on its offer, but it wont be to prove if SF kills pc's. It will be to bomb there offices.

[bSr.LCsta]

"stargayshitcrapfag"

 

Word of the day toilet paper?

[Guest EVIL-SCOTSMAN]

I'll have you know, that word was entered into the Oxford Concise Dictionary last year and is a legitimate word now. :)

 

EDIT:

 

the only hardware that has been changed is my new monitor, please tell me SF doesnt count plug n play monitors as new hardware ?

 

I activated lockon last time with my old monitor.....

[VapoR]

If ED does get rid of starforce, I’m pretty sure they will get more sales despite pirates, just take F4:AF for an example.

 

From stats I've seen, Lock-on has outsold F4:AF, and these were taken before FC.

[BIOLOG]

Guys please take it easy. And please do use civil language (You know who you are).

 

{REGARDS}

 

BIOLOG

[SwingKid]

 

-SK

[bflagg]

 

Starforce is our friend. Without Starfoce we would not be getting Black Shark or Tank Killers. Or....

 

Ice.. with all due respect...I vehemetly disagree.

I simply equate starforce to the same strong arm tactic that RIAA is doing.

 

Notice also ED never answered my NON INFLAMATORY question about ED implementation of Starforce.

Question was simple.. polite.. thought out... but was "missed".

[Guest IguanaKing]

From stats I've seen, Lock-on has outsold F4:AF, and these were taken before FC.

 

But, I think the point he was trying to make is that, in spite of the rampant piracy of F4:AF, its loyal users are STILL buying it. Flight Sims have more of a cult following. Sure, warez punks can hack them...but most of us are still going to go buy the game, as opposed to the ones who fit the warez punk profile...we have a longer attention span. :D I haven't had problems, but I still think StarForce is not a good way to go. BTW...just did my 1.12a upgrade...1.12 installed, all mods still in place...upgraded to 1.12a...no problems. :icon_supe I had to reapply 1 mod, but everything else is cool...and the RWR is fixed.

[ARM505]

Online CD key = all that is needed IMHO. ie no play online without key, no other protection necessary. It's not like this is BF2 which would be pirated into oblivion. We're older, wealthier (ha ha, not after all the hardware needed for this!), and like our software and the people who make it.

[Floyd]

Starforce is our friend. Without Starfoce we would not be getting Black Shark or Tank Killers. Or....

 

Well, patch 1.12a just broke my installation, 1.12 was running good. So if i don't

get this up and running, i will not buy any other from ED, that's for sure.

[Starlight]

From stats I've seen, Lock-on has outsold F4:AF, and these were taken before FC.

 

that's the point, mate.... LockOn didn't have starforce before FC :)

[Starlight]

Starforce is our friend.

 

Were you tortured at Guantanamo to come to this conclusion? :D

 

PS: just kidding, please no flame here ;)

[Alfa]

Evil Scotsman,

 

Watch your language - read the forum rules!

 

- JJ.

[Groove]

im down to my last installation key btw.

 

so have i to buy the game again next time i upgrade the pc or can i get some more keys somehow from ED ?

[BIOLOG]

Groove, try sending them a polite email, explaining the situation. I'm sure they will help!

 

REGARDS,

 

BIOLOG

[Mizzy]

Very strange ... yes, take Ice's suggestion but also take care that your config is -exactly- the same as when you installed lomac ... meaning if you played around with the irq's /after/ installing lomac before, do the same now.

 

Why should he have to do that?? in fact why should I since I am down to only two key thingies left and then what? I have not changed anything apart from I loaded some software from eDimensional drivers and bang slap wallop, I lose another key for the lomac door :(

 

Starforce is a draconian measure for some people who would never buy software anyway, but surely ED know that the people who will buy Lock On will buy regardless of any protection and the people that won't .... won't. Starforce will never change the psycological profile of human beings.

 

I am a little pissed off since I don't have much time anymore to enjoy my little escape flying a Russian fighter jet (s).

 

Mizzy

[zaelu]

Let me share some of my experience and don't get me wrong please.

 

I am part of an Il-2 squad (mostly) but jets are awsome so I have Lock On too. One of my squadmates has also Lock On 1.12a (I mean Flaming cliffs). Another squad mate is working for UBI and has just 1.02 (no warez or what's so ever).

 

Now. I made quite a big lobby in my squad for Lock On FC and thats because some times we get "tired" of IL-2 and people just start to vanish in the mist. And that's bad. So many squad mates are questioning me about LOMAC. How is it? Does it has that or that?

 

Well, I have basicaly 15 activations. Do you know how many I had used? One And they are my friends and potentialy buyers of Lomac FC. They said that maybe they would buy it if they coud try it more than the demo... ;) I showed them the movies and that's all, and when they get on TS and I and the other with FC are playing Lomac they say: Ah, nice... . And then silence.

 

I think (like I said before) that if SF is geting money for ED that's ok for me. If I'll had a problem with it I will not get on this or other forums and say that I am ungry or something... there are normal ways to solve the problem and in this forum I think they are "stickied".

 

But I think that ED should see if SF pays their money, because I see more and more people that are complaining about it. And it doesn't matter in the end that the complainers are right or wrong.

 

What I see now is an asurance that fans of the game are paying the game but more than that... I don't know.

 

I have a good friend that is a dedicated bomber in IL-2 and he was interested by Su25/25T an A10 but, when I told him about SF he said... never. Well, I am a little stuborn and I pressed him about this problem. We find out that he dislike SF (from his guts :) ) because SF alegedly destroyed his DVD when he installed the Demo of "Thief 3 game". We managed to solve the problem (it had the thing with slow interface, from UDMA 2 it got to PIO mode) but, he continue to dislike SF and refuses to give a chance to the game to prove it self.

 

Maybe his crazy but, I think more are like him. So in the end a good analisis have to be made. Is it worth it? Many big players in Game industry are not giving a rat on SF but, also they can afford the loss.

 

Anyway, if ED will decide to go with SF for BS and next projects then they surely have done their math and we should solve the problems with SF like mature peoples.

 

I hope my post will not offend anyone or the rules, if it does I agree to be deleted. I think at this just as it is feedback.

 

regards

[bflagg]

Link to my question about the starforce drivers.

 

http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=13702