Thinking of Upgrading and Need some Advice

[outlawal2]

Just get that board. Grab a 4770k and 16gig of dual channel ram an keep windows 7. Also keep this in mind its first gen ddr4 so your performance wont be much noticable to mid end 47xx cpus unless your going to benchmark it. Also you can use your ram on the 1150 board as you would only use 2 sticks giving you 8gigs ram. So that would save you buying ram too.

 

 

THIS!

:thumbup:

 

Definitely go for the I7 (For those talking about ED not being multi thread, that is correct but OP uses his machine for video editing so I7 is a MUST for him)

 

My recommendation would be to stay away from the latest and greatest and stick with last years best... Go with a Z87 rather than a Z97 board and last years I7.. You definitely want 16 GIG memory for editing... And like Bewsher said you can then stick with Windows 7..

 

And make CERTAIN that when you buy memory that you buy name brand memory that is MATCHED for dual channel... (It will be specifically marketed as dual channel in one package. Don't try buying separate packages of memory as you WILL have issues with it. Always buy matched sticks and all that you need at one time. Trying to add later nearly always goes bad.)

Edited September 5, 2014 by outlawal2

[SkateZilla]

I'd go with 32GB of Ram and make a sizable RAMDisk for Scratch Drive :)

[outlawal2]

I'd go with 32GB of Ram and make a sizable RAMDisk for Scratch Drive :)

 

Remember that he is trying to keep this around $1200 or so...

[Spasticatedtoad]

I'd fish around for a processor compatible with your current system, patch it up and keep it going. Don't splash out on a new system until you are certain your money will be well spent.

I'd hate to see you get a big expensive upgrade only to find that it isn't optimum for the way Edge operates.

Having said that, if DCS isn't your only criterion, then perhaps just upgrading to as much power as your budget will allow will be your sole aim.

As for the AMD - Intel argument, I must agree, I have had far better experiences with Intel than AMD. I'll stick with Intel from here on.

 

 

Thanks for your advice.

 

Ideal situation for me at the moment would be to patch up this system and keep plugging on for as long as it can handle.

I've considered finding a new Processor of the same make to replace the one I have.

 

And although it would leave me with a functioning PC, I still need to replace my Power Supply because it is too close to minimum requirements for my liking. I have a 625Watt Power supply, but my video card alone requires a minimum of 550Watts.

In my mind, that doesnt leave a lot for the rest of the system, even under no load at all.

 

That would cost me about $400-$500. And in the end, with new parts, its still an old computer system with ever diminishing ability to be upgraded. It's only a SATA II motherboard and I have a 6Gbit SSD on my system. But because its only SATA II,

its capabilities are halved to 3Gbit ( on my system as it stands, its more like 2.1Gbit )

 

It seems like a waste of good potential to me.

 

I really only have two basic options 1. Patch this system as best I can and hope I will have the money to upgrade again later this year ( not too likely ).

 

Or 2. Try as best I can, to predict the type of system I may need and make that move now while I have the finance's to do so. That means I only have to try and save money for 1 upgrade this year. ( I can handle that )

 

Admittedly, it does leave me open to buying a system that is not compatible with the way EDGE will work. And it may need futher upgrading to accomodate EDGE when the time comes. Or I may just have to accept the consequences of my upgrade and move on. It is a gamble that I am not happy about having to make it.

 

If I had any potential what-so-ever of earning a little money with my PC when EDGE came out, then DCS would be a major consideration and I would wait until EDGE's performance and requirements were a lot more certain.

 

But seeing as that isn't very likely at all, I have to look at getting a System that will be mostly geared towards HD video production and some 3D animation creation. Those type of features can earn me an income. If DCS Pre and Post EDGE will run nicer than I have now,on that system, then it is Win all round.

Even if it is not the best performance available.

 

As making DCS videos is just a hobby of mine, it must not be the major consideration in the Upgrade. I would have preferred for my PC to wait until EDGE came out because then I could kill 2 birds with one stone.

But at the rate my Processor is Degrading, I don't have the luxury of being able to wait anywhere up to another 12 months before EDGE is implimented, Beta Tested and Stabilized. I'm not even sure I have 2 months of reduced duties left in it.

[Spasticatedtoad]

I simply don't use multithreaded applications (like video editing and rendering or phtoshop), so I don't care about hyperthreading. My i5 is from 2011 and sadly I don't see any reason to upgrade it (yet).

 

 

Very good to know. I have found previously, people usually recommend Hardware that they own, simply because they have recent experience with that Hardware and have good current info.

When I saw you recommended the i7, but ran with an i5, I was wondering if you purchased the i5 but later wished you had gone i7.

Or if it was exactly because of the reason you gave. You have a really good i5 that has suited your needs and you dont need to upgrade. But felt an i7 would be better suited to what I am asking.

 

I take it as a very positive sign that your CPU is a few years old and you are still completely happy with it. I havent felt like that about any of my AMD processors after even 2 years. So switching to Intel, although more expensive, could end up saving me money and hassle in the long run.

[Spasticatedtoad]

I'd go with 32GB of Ram and make a sizable RAMDisk for Scratch Drive :)

 

If I had the knowledge to do that, I could imagine it would be quite a good solution. I have a friend who talks to me about that sort of thing, but unfortunately, I have such little experience in that area, that he may as well be speaking another language sometimes.

Maybe one day I will get there :)

[outlawal2]

I am betting that any system you decied to build now will have no issues running EDGE.. I honestly don't think that is an issue at all at this point..

EDGE may be tougher on older systems but anything you are looking at now should be no problem..

 

I7, 16 GIG matched dual channel RAM, (I prefer Nvidia 770 or 780 as DCS has some issues with the AMD cards, but those issues SHOULD go away with EDGE and DX11 support.) So whatever flavor Video card you prefer.. Keep WINDOWS 7..

 

You will not believe the difference this machine will be compared to what you have...

[Spasticatedtoad]

Remember that he is trying to keep this around $1200 or so...

 

Well, much like ED"s announcements all of that is 'Subject to change'.

 

If I can get a system that meets my current needs with room to expand my capabilities, but it costs $2200, then that is money well spent.

 

As opposed to trying to stick to a budget of ~ $1100 and end up with another PC that only makes flat dull videos and takes 20 hours to do that. To me, that is not really an upgrade, its just a newer version of what I have now and more of a waste of money.

 

Like with my RC Helicopter a Trex 450. I could have bought a clone of the Trex 450 at $69 and electronics that cost another $90 ( The cheap route ). I know many people who went that direction because the Heli I bought was waaaay too much money for them to justify at $3500.

 

But 8 years later, I still have that heli. I've crashed it twice and it did cost a bit to repair. But the others who went the cheaper Route, have spent more in the last 8 years on Heli's, than I have in replacement parts + my initial cost of $3500.

 

So in the end, although I went more expensive in the Beginning ( and it hurt more than I can explain ) in the long run, it turned out to be a far better decision for me because I was not having to spend money on parts every week to keep it running.

 

Honestly, I can't afford to be spending even $1000 right now on my PC. But if I stuck to what my budget could afford, I would not have a PC that meet any of my needs. And would be more likely to be no good at all if DCS requirements go up.

 

So that is why I was trying to keep it from getting too expensive. Because if it goes much more than $2000, I won't be able to afford to patch this PC, nor buy another PC until next year sometime. So I will have to decide to either go ahead with it, or give up completely as I have many other projects at this point in time, all screaming for the same amount of money.

[Spasticatedtoad]

I am betting that any system you decied to build now will have no issues running EDGE.. I honestly don't think that is an issue at all at this point..

EDGE may be tougher on older systems but anything you are looking at now should be no problem..

 

I7, 16 GIG matched dual channel RAM, (I prefer Nvidia 770 or 780 as DCS has some issues with the AMD cards, but those issues SHOULD go away with EDGE and DX11 support.) So whatever flavor Video card you prefer.. Keep WINDOWS 7..

 

You will not believe the difference this machine will be compared to what you have...

 

I am almost certain that post EDGE will not be as rough as what some suspect it will be. I am not anywhere near as experienced with PC's, so I don't think it hurts to take both views into account.

 

I am really, really hanging my hopes that AMD GPU's will experience a performance improvement with the implimentation of DX11. Not that long ago, I bought a $600 GPU that has barely even been realized so far in my system. I suspect it is either the best card in the world because it barely gets above 15C EVER....or its barely even being used due to lack of power in my system.

 

In either case, the GPU is one thing I will not replace. Its a great Card and still has a lot of life left in it. For the money it cost me, it still owes me a lot of use yet :D

[Art-J]

A bit of a sidenote in this interesting discussion. Toad, I'm not sure If I understood your post from the previous page correctly, but I find it hard to believe your card consumes 550W alone (don't know anything about this model though). Just for comparison, a regular GTX 780 of mine with two cooling fans on it (EVGA product) eats up to 270W. According to the info on the box, EVGA recommended using a 600W PSU for it (based on assumption that the rest of the config was based on i7 CPU).

 

The rest of my system is rather modest, with a popular i5 (4670K series) running on stock settings, a single SATA disk and a single DVD drive. All of it is powered by a good brand 525W PSU and so far I've never experienced any instabilities on 12V rail even during long flightsim sessions with G25 wheel, Warthog HOTAS and TIR5 plugged in. Sure, more components would require more powerful unit, but you get the picture.

 

I know that 1000W+ PSUs are kinda "fashionable" nowadays, but seriously... This "my PSU-d..ck is longer than yours" is getting out of control. Unless you intend to run a system with some ultra-power-hungry AMD CPU, a huge matrix of disks, an SLI/Crossfire setup, everything overclocked as high as possible and a myriad of USB controllers plugged in, I struggle to see what you would need an expensive 1250W PSU for.

Edited September 5, 2014 by Art-J

[cichlidfan]

Fwiw, my basic theory on PSU wattage is double whatever you expect the system to draw.

[Spasticatedtoad]

A bit of a sidenote in this interesting discussion. Toad, I'm not sure If I understood your post from the previous page correctly, but I find it hard to believe your card consumes 550W alone (don't know anything about this model though). Just for comparison, a regular GTX 780 of mine with two cooling fans on it (EVGA product) eats up to 270W. According to the info on the box, EVGA recommended using a 600W PSU for it (based on assumption that the rest of the config was based on i7 CPU).

 

The rest of my system is rather modest, with a popular i5 (4670K series) running on stock settings, a single SATA disk and a single DVD drive. All of it is powered by a good brand 525W PSU and so far I've never experienced any instabilities on 12V rail even during long flightsim sessions with G25 wheel, Warthog HOTAS and TIR5 plugged in. Sure, more components would require more powerful unit, but you get the picture.

 

I know that 1000W+ PSUs are kinda "fashionable" nowadays, but seriously... This "my PSU-d..ck is longer than yours" is getting out of control. Unless you intend to run a system with some ultra-power-hungry AMD CPU, a huge matrix of disks, an SLI/Crossfire setup, everything overclocked as high as possible and a myriad of USB controllers plugged in, I struggle to see what you would need an expensive 1250W PSU for.

 

Hi Art-J. Sorry I took so long to reply.

Sorry for the confusion about my GPU. I probably worded it wrong. I couldn't tell you how much power my GPU actually use's, but when I got it, it was recommended that for this card to run in my system, it was going to need 550W minimum. If I were to Crossfire 2 of the Cards, I would need a minimum of 750W. With the stages of PSU available to me, above that size ( 850W, 1000W,1050W,1200W ) The price difference between the 850W and the 1200W is around $80. I just felt that if I got the 1200W PSU, I could never really use all of that, so therefore it would not work really hard in my system.

By buying the bare minimum I needed in my previous PC's, meant that in a 4 year period, I went through 3 PSU's costing a total of around $1100. One PSU lasted 6 days and cost me $480.

I got sick of that pretty quick so the next PSU I replaced, I aimed over the top of what I needed by a long shot. I still have that PSU and its now 6 years old. ( in another system )

 

Anyone I have spoken to about my current system, all wince when I mention the size of my PSU. And each of them suggest I should upgrade it as it really isn't enough.

 

The reason I was thinking of getting a 1200W power supply, is not to enter some 'Who's is bigger Competition'. I don't have enough money to play that stupid game.

It is simply because in the future, I may want to Crossfire my system, and when that time comes, I don't want to be buying another PSU and replacing a perfectly good one.

On my budget, you only replace things when they expire completely or become useless.

 

My line of thinking is, that part of Future-proofing my system is to get as much lifespan out of my equipment as possible. So I usually aim to buy a system that is a bit more powerful than I currently need.

If I buy a system that is designed to work really hard, but I never push it to its full potenetial, It's expected lifespan is lengthened.

 

Just like a car. If you buy it, and push it like a maniac everywhere you drive, you may not get the expected lifespan out of that engine.

But if you cruise around, don't spin the tires and only use the handbrake for parking, that engine could go for years without skipping a beat.

 

So in effect, it may look like I am trying to play some sort of 'Mine's Bigger than yours' game with this build. But that is not what this build is about.

 

I don't have the money to add a part or 2 here and there and make upgrades as time goes on. And even that may sound like a contradiction when you look at the system I am looking to build.

But as I have found with many other Expensive items, if I aim for something that is a bit more than I require, those are the items that generally end up being the best money I ever spent. Because years later, they are still kicking butt and I've hardly spent any money on them at all.

 

If the system I am looking to build, is some sort of high end dream machine that many people would love to own, then I am too clueless to know that. What other people think of my system is not my concern. I'm not looking to go to any LAN parties or anything like that.

 

I'm just trying to cover myself as best I can. Hopefully, I have explained myself a little better this time and made it a bit easier to understand where I am coming from.

 

But that's not to say that I am set on this system. I am open to any input you may have. If you feel I could achieve a similar result, for less money, believe me, I'm all ears. I'm just trying to find a happy balance between what I can afford and what I need. Without cutting it too close, as that can limit future potential of the system without upgrade.

In order for this Upgrade to work for me, I need it to last at least 2 years. By aiming high, my last 2 PC's have not cost me anywhere near as much in the longrun, as what my first one did.

[outlawal2]

Remember that when manufacturers or experts tell you that they recommend a 550Watt power supply as a minimum they are taking into account that you will have at least one HD, one optical drive, multiple USB devices etc... So they aren't saying that your video card requires 550 watts, they are saying that the entire machine WITH that video card requires a 550 watt ps... So what I am saying is that even if you were to run your system in SLI or Crossfire, that doesn't mean you will need a 1200 watt ps...

 

Anyway, if you want to put this to final rest, go HERE http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp and fill out the info and I am betting it will say you won't need anything more than a 650watt PS even running Crossfire... (Just my guess)

 

Try it and see what they say...

 

Personally I always buy a 750 as that is plenty big enough to handle whatever I throw at it and common enough that they don't soak you for it like they do the big watt boxes..

[Spasticatedtoad]

Remember that when manufacturers or experts tell you that they recommend a 550Watt power supply as a minimum they are taking into account that you will have at least one HD, one optical drive, multiple USB devices etc... So they aren't saying that your video card requires 550 watts, they are saying that the entire machine WITH that video card requires a 550 watt ps... So what I am saying is that even if you were to run your system in SLI or Crossfire, that doesn't mean you will need a 1200 watt ps...

 

Anyway, if you want to put this to final rest, go HERE http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp and fill out the info and I am betting it will say you won't need anything more than a 650watt PS even running Crossfire... (Just my guess)

 

Try it and see what they say...

 

Personally I always buy a 750 as that is plenty big enough to handle whatever I throw at it and common enough that they don't soak you for it like they do the big watt boxes..

 

Awesome information. Thank you very much. See that is the sort of knowledge I am lacking. The Technical side of a PC. I have several Diploma's in engineering, so I am no stanger to complex systems and set up. But that being said, I know nothing about Computers from a technical stand point.

 

The reason I chose the 1200W PSU is because the other PSU's currently available to me, were not that different in price. And all through my engineering training, it was drummed into my head, that when working with/on machinery that you are not familiar with, error on the side of caution. If you are unsure just how much reinforcement/structural requirement you need, go overkill by a decent amount, to ensure it performs as you hope.

 

With my limitted understanding of the technical side of a PC, I can only think of it in the physical sense, like its a machine. I didn't think like that with my 1st PC and had nothing but endless issue's and problems that cost me buckets of money. At that stage, it was just this wonderous black box that did amazing things.

 

1 night after much frustration, I was preparing to put a hammer through the side of it. In my head I thought " You are nothing but a glorified switchboard. Not worth the money I spent".

And that annoyed me more, I am also an electrical engineer ( not a very good one ) but have worked on Switching Systems worth Millions of dollars, carrying Voltages as high as 330,000 Volt.

 

Once I started to think of it like a switchboard, I started to figure out what all the mysterious problems were, and that it was going to take a total rebuild to fix it.

 

After I built a new system, using my theory of Aiming Higher than I needed by about 20%, I found that I no longer experienced Hardware issue's , just the normal updating software issues or installation issue's like everyone else experiences every day. And it was nice to never have to consider ' Can my System run this?'. Because it was more than your average PC, it took just about any software you could want to put on it. No work-arounds needed, no sacrifice's and none of the Technical knowledge needed.

As a by-product of spending the extra money, I got a system that ran so well, if anything went wrong, it was generally just 1 thing at a time, and usually was fixed by uninstalling the offending product, and reinstalling it.

 

I would be over the Moon if a 750W PSU would be enough to run the system I am looking at, because I got a good deal on a 750W PSU about 12 months ago and intended to install it myself. I took the cover of my Tower, found that all the cables disappear into the back of the case and make it impossible to trace their route. I put the cover back on and have not touched it. I still have that PSU sitting in its box.

I'll check that site out A.S.A.P and if in fact that turns out to be right.....mate I owe you big time for that info. To show how naive I am, I did not even know that sites such as that existed.

After a quick glance at it, I am gonna be very grateful for that info.

Thankyou.

Edited September 6, 2014 by Spasticatedtoad

[KLR Rico]

[OT]

 

Like with my RC Helicopter a Trex 450. I could have bought a clone of the Trex 450 at $69 and electronics that cost another $90 ( The cheap route ). I know many people who went that direction because the Heli I bought was waaaay too much money for them to justify at $3500.

 

 

A $3500 Trex450? Is it platinum?! LOL.

 

[/OT]

[Krippz]

I'm looking for a new build as well after being away from DCS for 2 years. I guess I'll wait for EDGE as others have indicated

[Spasticatedtoad]

Remember that when manufacturers or experts tell you that they recommend a 550Watt power supply as a minimum they are taking into account that you will have at least one HD, one optical drive, multiple USB devices etc... So they aren't saying that your video card requires 550 watts, they are saying that the entire machine WITH that video card requires a 550 watt ps... So what I am saying is that even if you were to run your system in SLI or Crossfire, that doesn't mean you will need a 1200 watt ps...

 

Anyway, if you want to put this to final rest, go HERE http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp and fill out the info and I am betting it will say you won't need anything more than a 650watt PS even running Crossfire... (Just my guess)

 

Try it and see what they say...

 

Personally I always buy a 750 as that is plenty big enough to handle whatever I throw at it and common enough that they don't soak you for it like they do the big watt boxes..

 

That site is very handy indeed. Some of the available options you can select, are a little beyond my understanding. So I started with what I do know, and got a result of around 480W.

 

I then added another GPU ( 2 Total ) I got a result around 530W. So I added another GPU ( never gonna have 3x 7950's ) and got a result of around 600W.

 

So far it is looking like I can save a bundle by using my 750W. For the options on that page that I don't understand, I figure the best thing I can do, is go though 1 by 1 and check what the minumum requirement for that category will be and the maximum.

 

I only once got a result that exceeded 750W and that was by having 2 GPU's in Crossfire and Selecting 50% in the Capacitor Ageing option. The Result was 803W.

 

My PC does spend a lot of time on and is usually rendering some HD footage from somewhere. And as it turns out, that site even recommends buying a PSU with a capacity at least 20% greater than your requirements, if you want to get more than 1 years use out of it at heavy use or 20-30% if you want it on 24/7. They suggest that after a year, the Capacitors start to wear down, reducing total power available.

 

What it suggest's to me, is if I have a budget that is no sweat to replace a PSU in 12 months time, I could get away with using the 750W and it will last at least 12 months at heavy use.

 

But I am hoping to get longer than that out of whatever PSU I buy. So their advice ( in tiny print at the bottom of the page ) about aiming 20-30% for 24/7 use actually seems a better option, simply for the fact that at 24/7 operation, it will be fine for 12 months before the capacitors start to wear down. But seeing as my PC is not being used 24/7 ( really only about 12 hours a day ), in effect, that should mean that I should get around 2 years use out of the PSU before the capacitors start to wear down.

 

As I see it ( and its very likely I am wrong ) the 750W I have, would give me 1 year worry free use before it starts to wear down. The 850W I can get, may give me 2-3 months more before wearing down. But something around the 1000W mark, in theory, could last closer to the 2 years I need from it.

If I error on the side of caution, a 1200W should definately last 2 years, even if my average use or demand on my system increases over the next 12 months. ( very likely to happen )

 

And for that extra peace of mind and wallet, it'll only cost $80 more than something like an 850W. That's how I rationalized a 1200W would be appropriate.

 

Would that be a fair assumption in your opinion? Or have I missed the boat completely ?

 

I'm not disputing the advice you are offering at all, so I hope you don't think I am doubtful of the advice you are offering.

 

I am just looking at the situation from several angles, to make sure I am understanding the information and advice offered to me. And to work out what may be best for my situation.

 

I understand that without giving you my itinerary for the last 2 years and let you go over my books, it would be very hard for you and others, to understand my exact needs.

 

And I already type too much, so I try not to clutter my information, with a million variables.

That's where, if someone recommends a particular piece of Hardware/set up, I can calculate ( by my theory ) whether that will meet the criteria, or whether I may need to go 1 model higher, to meet my financial/time-frame requirements.

 

I'll continue checking that site and working it out as it is very helpful so far. It doesn't have some of the model processors in its drop down list, but that's ok, I can judge by what is there, as to what I may need.

 

Thanks for taking the time to help me with this. I really do appreciate the collective knowledge of everyone here. Without it, I would still be clueless as to what I should do next.

Edited September 6, 2014 by Spasticatedtoad

[Spasticatedtoad]

[OT]

 

 

 

 

A $3500 Trex450? Is it platinum?! LOL.

 

[/OT]

 

lol. 8 years ago. It was the top of the line Trex 450. I never had a transmitter, charger...nothin.

 

Today, you can get a Trex 450, that makes mine look like fossil, for around $500. With Transmitter, around $1000. Didn't I get into the hobby at the wrong time ? :D

[jctrnacty]

As for Psu i use 6 years old enermax liberty 550w, its was enough for my last set of comps c2d 3ghz, then nehalem i7 920 on 3.8 and now for my i5 3570 on 4.5 ghz with amd 7950. You have to realize that every new generation of cpus use less power so buying those 1000 w psu is just a waste of money and totaly useless.

Just buy quality (platiňum or gold) Psu for more money.

 

As others recomended wait for edge release and then there will be a lot of becnmarks so that you can build a right pc for dcs.

 

I would recommend intel and any of higher end gpus. Always bet on quality mobo if you want to overclock. Ram gskill with low latency, use one stick with 8 gb and if its not enough buy another stick to use dual channel.

 

Go for ssd, samsung is the best right now.

[Bewsher]

If your going to go crossfire in the future youll need at least a 850/900watt psu. Ive had an antek 850watt psu for 3 years and its capable of sli as its rated 80 percent power output. Also even though youre looking for a higher end psu the wattage wont have anything to do with lifespan of the psu.My only regret is i would have gone silverstone or corsair modular psu. But if you eventually have 8 hard drives and high end crossfire system then id recommend you go to the high end still. But if your not going to turn your pc into a server then 1000watts would cover you. One last thought even though cpu powers coming down video card power is ever increasing so youve got the right idea to start high end.

[outlawal2]

When they speak about wattage vs lifetime of the PSU they are generally talking about over taxing the psu... Personally I do not worry about that, I simply pick the PSU that has enough power to do what I need to do (or INTEND TO DO) in the future and add a little bit of overhead... This method has worked well for me and I have not had any PSU issues in YEARS...

 

Personally, I think you have now moved into the land of over-thinking and when you get there, GOD knows where you will wind up!

 

I believe the site will recommend a 650 or so for you, so if you bump that to a 750 you will be fine.. (and I am betting that PSU will last a LOT longer than 1 year or a year and a half like you are thinking..)

 

Buy a 750 and forget about it..

Let me rephrase that... Buy a NAME BRAND 750 and forget about it..

Never go cheap on the PSU.. Always buy a good brand..

 

I currently use OCZ Fatality 750W modular PS.. I have 3 of them I believe and zero issues with them... (there are many good brands and as is always the case, your mileage may vary...)

[cichlidfan]

As I see it ( and its very likely I am wrong ) the 750W I have, would give me 1 year worry free use before it starts to wear down. The 850W I can get, may give me 2-3 months more before wearing down. But something around the 1000W mark, in theory, could last closer to the 2 years I need from it.

 

Warranty periods for a good PSU (Corsair is my personal choice) are five years or more. You are imagining a problem that will not exist if you go with a good product.

 

I agree with what outlawal2 said above. Especially the part about not skimping on the PSU cost.

[Spasticatedtoad]

It has become clear to me that my lack of knowledge on upgrading my PC is going to do nothing but waste my money and annoy people further on this forum.

 

This was not my intention in either case.

 

I was hoping to avoid as much downtime as I could in the changeover from 1 system to the other. But I was also hoping I would be able to make a much more informed choice.

 

I thought my choice of PSU was of such little concern, there would be hardly any discussion about it in comparison to my choice of MB or CPU.

 

But judging by the conversation so far, I really missed the mark by a mile on all counts and I am better of just shutting down my system to prevent any further damage and spending a lot longer figuring this out.

 

As it is at this point, I am starting to be able to fly less and less before my processor is hitting dangerous temperatures and frame stuttering becomes more prominent.

 

Rather than cause any further confusion and annoyance, I'll continue working on this in the background. If there's any interest in my progress, people can request info here or PM me and I'll be happy to post whatever I can to help.

 

That way, I won't be cluttering the thread with a million questions and annoying others with my naive thinking.

 

Thankyou all for your advice and assistance so far. You have all helped me far more than I could have achieved on my own. :)

 

Looks like I'm gonna end up seeing what EDGE is like before upgrading my PC after all. :(

I was hoping to be able to make videos upon EDGE's release ( and modules inbetween ), but I guess I'll just have miss out on that till I can figure out what my next move is.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Spasticatedtoad

[Flanker52]

Same here. Gonna hold off and see how Edge works out before buying anything.

 

However - being the fool I am, I didn't realize that changing my Sata to AHCI instead of IDE makes a massive difference in FPS.

 

My FPS probably doubled as a result.

 

So I might be good to go without any update.

[Spasticatedtoad]

Same here. Gonna hold off and see how Edge works out before buying anything.

 

However - being the fool I am, I didn't realize that changing my Sata to AHCI instead of IDE makes a massive difference in FPS.

 

My FPS probably doubled as a result.

 

So I might be good to go without any update.

 

 

Nice. I was pretty pleased when I got my SSD, and discovered the difference AHCI made to PC performance. Although I only have a SATA II system, the difference was still huge. :)