Jettison discipline

[112th_Rossi]

In real life, if a MiG pilot was returning from a patrol with a full load out of a AA missiles I take it before landing he would only jettison the central tank and not the missiles (since they are expensive).

 

Whats the routine for lightening up the MiG before landing?

[Valkenswaard]

Shoot enemys down and fly your tanks dry.

 

Seriously, no idea.

[Andrei]

On Russian forums' side I've read that even jettisoning drop tanks was not encouraged at all, since this a "waste of socialistic property".

[kanami314]

In real life, if a MiG pilot was returning from a patrol with a full load out of a AA missiles I take it before landing he would only jettison the central tank and not the missiles (since they are expensive).

 

Whats the routine for lightening up the MiG before landing?

 

unlike the fa18, the mig21 can land so long as its under its max landing weight with out problem in any configuration. the purpous of being able to drop the fuel tank was to help it get out of danger faster. the only reason I could think a pilot would drop it when landing is if it has a fire and needs to be landed asap, then it would drop the fuel and missles for safty then land. if the mig21 is flying and is overweight from fuel, it would just hold until it burned off the fuel and then land normaly. that said, in this sim, its up to you what you do, but if you want to be really realistic, then go ahead and burn your fuel off before landing.

[Mode]

On Russian forums' side I've read that even jettisoning drop tanks was not encouraged at all, since this a "waste of socialistic property".

 

Yes, if there is no a reason for jettisoning the tanks, for what you need to drop useful properties. :)

[Art-J]

On Russian forums' side I've read that even jettisoning drop tanks was not encouraged at all, since this a "waste of socialistic property".

 

I wouldn't say it's the question of "wasting socialistic property". When you're flying during peace time, if your landing weight is within limits you don't jettison anything, because it just doesn't make sense. That was the norm back in the day and still is the norm today - look at the photos and clips of modern fighters (^^ ehm, including F/A-18 ) returning from their patrols - drop tanks on, even on naval planes landing on carriers.

Edited October 23, 2014 by Art-J

[Buzzles]

Don't forget that an emtpy drop tank doesn't weigh that much either.

[xxJohnxx]

unlike the fa18, the mig21 can land so long as its under its max landing weight with out problem in any configuration.

 

The manual completely disagrees with you there.

 

EDIT: Yes. These are the possible configurations:

 

Rated landing weight for using concrete, un-paved or snowcovered

runway, 6800 kgf, BLC system being used by all means.

 

This landing weight is obtained when the aircraft:

(a) has no external loads, fuel remainder not exceeding

700 L;

(b) carries two missiles, or two UB-16-57 pods, or two FAB-

100 bombs, or carries no combat stores but has empty

drop tanks attached, fuel remainder being 500 L.

During peacetime, when just flying a patrol, you probably can risk landing at these overload conditions:

 

Landing of an overloaded aircraft (whose weight, however,

should not exceed 7300 kgf) is allowed in the following exceptional

cases:

(a) when carrying two guided missiles, or two loaded UB-

16-57 pods, or two FAB-100 bombs and empty drop tanks,

fuel remainder not exceeding 800 L;

(b) when carrying two empty UB-32 pods and two missiles

or two FAB-100 bombs, or two loaded UB-16-57 pods;

when carrying four guided missiles or four loaded UB-16-57

pods; or two missiles and two loaded UB-16-57 pods (two

FAB-100 bombs); or four FAB-100 bombs, or two S-24 rockets, or two FAB-250 bombs, or two loaded UB-32 pods,

fuel remainder not exceeding 600 L.

 

EDIT: Misunderstood the quoted post.

Edited October 25, 2014 by xxJohnxx

[HellToupee]

No it doesnt, he said "under its max landing weight", those manual quotes only list some possible examples of configurations and fuel loads that do that.

[xxJohnxx]

No it doesnt, he said "under its max landing weight", those manual quotes only list some possible examples of configurations and fuel loads that do that.

 

Ah, okay I see, now that sentence makes a bit more sense.

I thought he meant that the MiG-21 is always under maximum landing weight in any fuel and payload configuration. But he actually meant that the MiG-21 can land in any configuration when it is below the maximum landing weight.