Ironhand Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Not sure if this qualifies as a tutorial or not. A few folks were having problems with the 1st mission of the Su-25T Flaming Cliffs Campaign. So I flew it, recorded it, and added a voiceover. I talk about some aspects of operating in the mountains and the main thread--Iglas. This flight was my approach to solving the tactical problem presented by the mission. There are others, including attacking from a much higher altitude. But this particular approach was a lot of fun. The filesize is HUGE, unfortunately: 671 MB. Evidently the mountains, etc add a lot of graphic details that add to file size. An A2A video of similar length would have run about 150MB with the same level of compression. But compressing it further removed too many details. You'll find the video on the A2G page of my site. Enjoy. Rich YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
Shaman Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Thanks Ironhand :) Downloading it now. I'll post after I also finish this mission myself. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
Dutch60 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Thanks (Master) Ironhand. But 671 MB is BIG even for a highspeed internet connection. i9 13900KS (H150i), RTX 4090, 64 GB RAM @ 6000 MHz CL30, TM Warthog HOTAS + MFD's, MFG Crosswind, LG 48GQ900, Valve Index VR, TrackIR 5, Win11 Pro x64
GoodCop Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 You'll find the video on the A2G page of my site. Enjoy. Rich This will be very interesting to see! Will enjoy a lot (like usual), thank you!
Ironhand Posted March 31, 2006 Author Posted March 31, 2006 But 671 MB is BIG even for a highspeed internet connection. No. It's not big. It's HUGE. The entire Flaming Cliffs addon is only 282 MB and you can actually DO stuff with it. Actually I was shocked at how large the file turned out. I kept thinking I must have done something wrong but I couldn't find anything. As I mentioned in my initial post, an A2A video tutorial of the same length is only about 150MB. Rich YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
Andrew_McP Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Rich, try loading it into Movie Maker 2 and specifying a "Best fit to file size" to trim it down. I find MM2 very useful for this, because other editors don't offer anything comparable. Obviously you'll lose some detail, but I can't believe all of that 671Mb is necessary. Andrew McP
Ironhand Posted March 31, 2006 Author Posted March 31, 2006 Rich, try loading it into Movie Maker 2 and specifying a "Best fit to file size" to trim it down. I find MM2 very useful for this, because other editors don't offer anything comparable. Obviously you'll lose some detail, but I can't believe all of that 671Mb is necessary. Andrew McP I had a hard time believing it, too, until I tried compressing it further. Every other tutorial video has compressed to a reasonable file size using the same methods and compression levels I used on this. I tried pushing this one further and wasn't at all happy with the results. Maybe I'm just too finicky. Rich YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
ED Team Groove Posted March 31, 2006 ED Team Posted March 31, 2006 its okay for me :) 16 mbit downspeed ^^ Thx rich ! Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
Pilgrim Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 You should try to divx it ironhand. I can get approx 90 min into 700Mb with excellent details ASUS P4T533-C|P4 3.06@3.45|1024Mb Kingston 1066 rambus|ATI 9.... *EDITED* - Listen to Mods!!!
Ironhand Posted March 31, 2006 Author Posted March 31, 2006 Pilgrim, I usually can get file sizes with XviD--which is what I normally use--that are a bit smaller and better detailed than what I get with DivX which is why I use it. This video, for some reason, just refused to get small without ripping all the detail out out of its heart. Rich YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
Witchking Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 wow...rich.....Its amazing .. Way to show off the way lock on is PLAYED.....:) Bravo dude..... lol....funny thing is the bugs I notice as well...its like a pun....the explosion artifact,,,,,the lol....wingman....who likes to kiss walls. :p WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA|
Ironhand Posted March 31, 2006 Author Posted March 31, 2006 wow...rich.....Its amazing .. Way to show off the way lock on is PLAYED.....:) Bravo dude..... lol....funny thing is the bugs I notice as well...its like a pun....the explosion artifact,,,,,the lol....wingman....who likes to kiss walls. :p Thanks. :) The wingman took me by surprise. I knew the timing was for crossing safely was okay. Really pissed me off that he flew into a ridgeline. I wanted him to take some of the heat so I'd have an easy last kill. Instead I had to work for the last kill. Oh well. Two flew out. One came back. Not a good ratio. Rich YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
ED Team Groove Posted March 31, 2006 ED Team Posted March 31, 2006 There is very much different landscape in this video thats why the codec cant make it lesser big. If you would fly a A-A tutorial it wouldnt be that much as the blue sky has more potential to get squizzed down as a change between earth and sky like in this mission. Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
Shaman Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Mission successful Hehehe! I've passed the mission! And even my wingman has survived! :icon_supe We're now at Maykop, celebrating our first success in this campaign :icon_pidu Big Thanks, Ironhand. :icon_pray Now I have really clear image how to avoid those uber Iglas. I still think they reload to fast, but oh well :) I've passed it! I've passed it! I've passed it! I'm sure I can expect hard times. I mean more difficult missions in the future. Though knowledge about Iglas will for sure help me out. Now it's time to fly Flaming Cliffs mission nr2 :) 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
Ironhand Posted March 31, 2006 Author Posted March 31, 2006 Hehehe! I've passed the mission! And even my wingman has survived! :icon_supe We're now at Maykop, celebrating our first success in this campaign :icon_pidu CONGRATULATIONS!!! :D Actually, I'm not sure Iglas reload at all. Isn't it more a matter of grabbing a new one out of the crate? Rich YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
Shaman Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 CONGRATULATIONS!!! :D Actually, I'm not sure Iglas reload at all. Isn't it more a matter of grabbing a new one out of the crate? Rich Thank you! Well, and that's what I think.. that they grab next one from a crate or something... ;) Let's pretend it is like this. Anyway after several shots "the crate" is empty, and they stop firing. Well that's what I actually observed once, so I can't totally confirm it. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
Witchking Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 it will be interesting if ED can do small animations for the reload. In my humble opinion, that is what impresses people and keeps them interested rather than a 10000 poly igla model. Just mentioning that immersion is key ...not a 50000 poly model. more animations...more life like.....more in-battle feel. :) WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA|
zaelu Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Very nice training mission Rich, as always. Fun also, But the size is realy big, huge how you say :) . Unfortunely I observed that is rather poor quality also. When you said look at that town, it was barely distinguisible. At that file size the movie should have been crystal clear. Normaly the movies that are compressed in Xvid or DivX have a smaller resolution (they are sometimes wide view) and are over one hour and could have just 700MB. And they still look good. My opinion is that DivX-XviD are so good that in short time will replace the MPEG4 compresion dominance on DVD market. Glowing Amraam has good compresion in his movies (although he is using some amount of "blur"), maybe he could share some tips. Also, are you considering the release of the track in old style? Like voice over traing tracks? We could try another compression. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Shaman Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 My opinion is that DivX-XviD are so good that in short time will replace the MPEG4 compresion dominance on DVD market. DivX is actually modified MPEG4. DVD is MPEG2. Both compression methods are already old. all those new HDTV oriented codecs is the way to go. H.264? and so 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
ED Team Groove Posted April 1, 2006 ED Team Posted April 1, 2006 you can reload a igla afaik but it takes time as you have to change the battery too... Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
Manta Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Thank you very much Rich! Downloading it now @ 286Kb/sec, so it's good for me. 150GCT_Manta http://www.150gct.it/
zaelu Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 DivX is actually modified MPEG4. DVD is MPEG2. I was just testing you :p. If is so, my bad, thanx for info. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Kaitsu Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Thank you! Well, and that's what I think.. that they grab next one from a crate or something... ;) Let's pretend it is like this. Anyway after several shots "the crate" is empty, and they stop firing. Well that's what I actually observed once, so I can't totally confirm it. This mission is actually quite easy! Just circle around the three targets and lure the igla guys to shoot at you at their maximum range then escape popping flares. Soon they run out of iglas and after that it is easy to destroy the three targets and even the nasty igla guys. ;) I think they have two iglas per soldier and reload takes 30 seconds or so.
Silent Warrior Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Buggrit! It's too big for me! (At the moment I'm limited to 150 Mb - school-computer. I'll remember to bag it the minute I'm home. Or hour. Or the next day, at the latest.)
Kula66 Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Another good work IronHand ... One question on the IR Jammer ... I remember that it took time to warm up. Do you switch it on/off in the mission?
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