Choosing Monitor

[Devrim]

I used (tried) Samsung 46" LED TV, and my friend uses a 55" LED TV and reports that he can't read some text messages (such as radio or chat texts), plus I confirm these and I can't find a monitor's performance on TV.

 

That's why I keep LED TV in living room and stop fighting with my wife, and I've bought a new 27-inch monitor. :D

[rcjonessnp175]

Nothing wrong with using a tv, matter of fact I would never go to a tiny computer mo it or again. Before you by one shop around and look for good tvs with good response time. Tv I have is a Sony 802a and has one of the fastest response times of all tvs. Looks amazing and their is no blurring problems at all. Make sure you have the right pixel mapping going otherwise you will run into blurring problems.

Also my tv is edid hack able which allows me to fly dcs in real 3dvision by nvidia at 1080p. Amazing immersion at this size and in 3d. Something you will not get on a small monitor. Look around in these forums and you will see that once guys go big aka tvs theirs no going back.

Also using nvidia dsr to run at a much higher res makes a big difference on the big screens

 

[313_Nevo]

thx for the pic, nice pit man! and I agree - once big, always big. 23-24(-27)in monitor is not the answer

[Devrim]

Honestly, I don't agree with "always big" thinking. For the pits above, it's OK, it works, but if your pit is smaller it's better 24 or 27" monitor instead giant TVs.

 

I had 20" monitor in my setup and I used to position the monitor very close to me. Recently I bought 27" monitor and now I can't position it very close, it disturbs. :) That's me though... Nevermind... :P

[Buckeye]

Honestly, I don't agree with "always big" thinking. For the pits above, it's OK, it works, but if your pit is smaller it's better 24 or 27" monitor instead giant TVs.

 

I had 20" monitor in my setup and I used to position the monitor very close to me. Recently I bought 27" monitor and now I can't position it very close, it disturbs. :) That's me though... Nevermind... :P

 

 

TVs look terrible compared to monitors, even the best TV with decent manufacturer quoted response times and high resolution still look and run comparatively terrible because they lack proper pixel density, etc. The only reason to get a a TV instead is simply that you just want a massive picture in front of you and are willing to sacrifice picture quality.

[*Rage*]

TVs look terrible compared to monitors, even the best TV with decent manufacturer quoted response times and high resolution still look and run comparatively terrible because they lack proper pixel density, etc. The only reason to get a a TV instead is simply that you just want a massive picture in front of you and are willing to sacrifice picture quality.

 

Unless you get a decent 4K Tv:

 

http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/viera-televisions/led/tx-58ax802b.html

 

Of course you need alot of GPU horsepower to run it.

[Chief1942]

"Of course you need alot of GPU horsepower to run it. " I keep seeing those types of claims and am wondering just what "a lot of GPU horsepower " actually equates to. Could someone shed some light on what card(s) might be able to run a 4K at it's proper resolution?

[*Rage*]

There some users running them currently who might chime in. I would suggest either 2 x 290s or 2 x 970s. One 980 might just cut it...

[rcjonessnp175]

TVs look terrible compared to monitors, even the best TV with decent manufacturer quoted response times and high resolution still look and run comparatively terrible because they lack proper pixel density, etc. The only reason to get a a TV instead is simply that you just want a massive picture in front of you and are willing to sacrifice picture quality.

 

Not going to argue but not true at all. You get what you pay for. You enjoy the sim on a tiny little screen that's your thing allot of us enjoy it on big screens with proper pixel mapping and higher res than the little ones. Oh and add 3d in nothing can compare to that. Tv I have blows most monitors out of water and it's not even 4k. Just need to know what to look for.

Again personal preference and usually up to the woman in house how big you can go lol. It's a. Really awesome feeling flying a10c with almost the real size pit presented in front of you, and in 3d.

I use to do 3x27 1ms response time monitors, would never go back to that after flying on a 55 incher or bigger.

 

As far as 4k I've run this sim at 4k in Dsr looks amazing but the performance is not their with this engine. My two 980's can't maintain 60fps. Hopefully dcs 2.0 will work much better. 4k is great but we do t have the drivers nor the hardware to max games and maintain fpS at the minimum of 60.

Edited December 15, 2014 by rcjonessnp175

[skouras]

Bump

 

i know is too late but this one is nice for sims

 

[gdx65]

Hi,

 

Would like to opt for a 29 to 34 inch monitor after I evaluated the initial idea to use 3 x 24/27 monitors solutions. Had an Asus ROG Swift PG278Q for one month and just delivered back as I prefer an IPS (or VA) monitors, suitable for simulations as i do not play fast paced games.. still response time is important....

 

In a three monitor solution could consider the EIZO FG2421 http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/eizo_fg2421.htm

 

For the larger single monitor option I came across the new Philips 40" BDM4065UC, has someone evaluated this?

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/philips_bdm4065uc.htm

 

Also looking at these:

 

http://www.pcgameware.co.uk/reviews/monitor-reviews/aoc-u3477pqu-monitor-review/

 

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/benq_bl3200pt.htm

 

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_34um95.htm

[cichlidfan]

That Phillips looks pretty good and the price is quite acceptable.

[weeb]

What graphics card/cards would be needed to drive the Phillips 40 inch. Anyone able to say?

[weeb]

Having had time to read the whole review of the Phillips 40", the bit on "viewing angles" sets off alarm bells (IPS still rules for the moment). I'll stay with triple monitors for the time being.

[gdx65]

To drive the Phillips 40" should be fine one of the latest graphic cards (i.e. GTX980...)

 

Eventually the ultimate solution for us (Sim flyers) it will be an Oculus Rift (or similar) once it will be fine tuned...

 

I think I will have a closer look at both the AOC U3477PQU and the LG34UM95 as I would like to stick with one monitor as I use TrackIR it should work well. Anyway I appreciate feedback if anyone has already reached such large display solution (not TV). However, that Phillips 40" seems to be a TV stripped off the TV components, tuner, etc.

Edited December 29, 2014 by gdx65
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[weeb]

Oculus Rift:

 

I respect your opinion and hopefully you will respect mine. Oculus Rift does not suit everyone as it stands just now, it's like work in progress.

I have just learned how to make a cockpit, and have a couple of tactile boxes. I switch a switch it turns in the game. End ov, If it develops better maybe I might have a look at the Rift, I'm not turning this into an Oculus Rift fanboy V. Full 3d sim fanboy, but I'm happy as I am, if I need to make a chopper, I just unplug usb, insert other usb, job done. I have huge monitor setup here 24,27,24, using tir, I look like 20 degrees, buttons not hardwired appear. I have softth working with bezel correction, I know i'm gonna struggle when Edge comes out DX issues, you know what, I will deal with that then.The question here was about choosing monitor so Oculus Rift doesn't even come into the argument, or am I missing something here?

 

weeb

Edited December 29, 2014 by weeb

[gdx65]

weeb,

 

agree with you on Oculus Rift, maybe it is the novelty excitement...definitely some work to be done there....you are correct the focus is on choosing a monitor :-)

By the way I see that you have a three monitor setup where the center monitor is the 27 and the other two 24. Something I was considering as well... for example a 29 (center) and 24 for the side monitors?

[Erforce]

Was looking for a long time a monitor like this

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2415.htm

 

DELL U2415 1920x1200 - almost borderless - IPS matte - high quality - fair price (300€)

will fit perfectly between my two other 16.10 screens.

 

you have the U2414 for the 16/9 one, 200€. but still, if you want 16/9, go for a big plasma TV :-) (wait for hdmi 2.0 though)

[Random]

Regarding the horsepower needed for 4k.

 

Currently CPU is king with DCS. I am currently running a haswell i7 at 4.65ghz with a pair of 3gb 780Ti's. 40-60fps vsync on. However I never load my GPU's beyond 75%! So a single 980 is certainly powerful enough and has more video memory. I regularly reach 100% VRAM useage and it can cause stuttering. Obviously P51 guns drop it to single figures but that happens in 1080p too!

 

 

The great thing with 4k is you can forget anti-aliasing entirely. It means that you only end up losing as much performance as you would expect jumping up from 1080

 

In my opinion the sweet spot is 1440 with AA on. So perhaps go for a high refresh rate 1440 monitor?

Edited December 30, 2014 by Random

[gdx65]

Erforce,

 

Nice that Dell DELL U2415. Where I am located they have on stock and cheap the Dell U2414H and it seems to have the same qualities as the U2415.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2414h.htm

[gdx65]

Also came across this curved Samsung S27D59C...could not find a prof review of it only light review like these:

 

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-27-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor-S27D590C/product-reviews/B00N4OBHNI

 

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-207-SA

[HiJack]

Good tips here :thumbup:

 

Anyone tried 3840x2160 resolution with DisplayPort on one AMD 7970? I'm about to buy a Samsung 28" 4K LED, product 28D590D and one Samsung 27" LED, product S27C650D as a side screen (1920x1080).

[Erforce]

gdx65, VA panels have good contrasts and response time. but i still can prefer the ips large view angle feature.

Dell has also an excellent color output and reliability.

At office (Editing / VFX) we use both Dell and Samsung IPS. it's clear samsung cannot meet Dell's quality.

 

Larger screens is another business. :)

[BitMaster]

There are many good and valid ways to find a monitor and testing some models does help to find what one likes.

 

I used to say, small is better, which is generally true for pixel density, but strains your eyes over time.

The very peak of this was playing 2880x1800 on my 15" MacbookPro Retina. Awesome view, AA obsolete, just some very low fps when lower than 5000m haha ...on this 650GT-M Nvidia.

 

Then I tried my 40" Philips TV, ugly..plain UGLY never again

 

End of story for now, I got a brand new Acer LED LCD, 27", very fast, good reviews...and an awesome price..I got it for free as a return from a customer.

 

My aim is a 4or 5K Monitor once prices drop and RAMDACs get fast enough for 5k at modest prices. Right now only Apple has a single RAMDAC in its 5k Screen, Dell has the same panel but I dunno what party they use to drive the panel, with 2 RAMDACs you have 2 half screens, causing flicker.

 

I can admit, 1080p is WAY TOO LITTLE to see enough, I used to play 1980x1200 on my MBP Retina and I really miss those 120p now looking DOWNWARD.

 

4k+ is the way to go and Eizo the brand to pick if you can afford it. They do have gaming monitors nowadays for moderate money but Eizo OSD quality and such.

 

Never save money on monitors, you only have 1 pair of eyes for your entire life. Thats what I say to customers and myself when buying monitors !

 

 

Bit

Edited January 2, 2015 by BitMaster

[BitMaster]

Good tips here :thumbup:

 

Anyone tried 3840x2160 resolution with DisplayPort on one AMD 7970? I'm about to buy a Samsung 28" 4K LED, product 28D590D and one Samsung 27" LED, product S27C650D as a side screen (1920x1080).

 

Make sure those 4k screens produce 1 frame for the whole screen instead of 2 half-screens that are stitched together which almost always causes tearing and such. Most cheaper 4k's use this.

 

For video and slow games this does work, for faster games and high fps this will be a show stopper.

 

 

 

Read the reviews if they have 1 driving plane ( good ) or 2 driving planes ( BAAAD ).

 

 

Bit