[CLOSED] wings break off at 4g

[IvanK]

You might be right there Kwiatek

[SilentGun]

i feel like the problem is the jerking of the slats. as soon as the plane starts to jerk maybe it bugs out and jerks to hard and pull's the wing with an excess amount of force

[gomwolf]

Same here.

 

And I think weak wing structure is not for Bf109 but P-51. I suggest "Luftwaffe Combat Report" German aces and generals(Galland, Bár, Neumann, Hitshold, Milch) said " P-51 is best American fighter aircraft because of its long range, climb and dive charateristics, firepower and maneuverability. It was very vulnerable to cannon fire. It would break up during very violent dives and maneuvers." IMO that means Bf109 was not like that(All of those aces flied with Bf109).

Edited February 28, 2015 by gomwolf

[otto]

I don't know if my wing broke at 4g in MP but it did feel like i pulled verry little G

 

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and you can see it's the left wing that broke .The one with no battle damage at all.

 

DavidRed is right there is something wrong,inconsistent with this wing breaking stuff:

 

Sometimes i black out at 7g sometimes i pull 10 g without blacking out.

In the track i posted i pulled 10 g without blacking out at all.There is no worning at al im pulling 10 g.

wing-1.trk

[NineLine]

The thing is that your airframe will take damage, so maybe what we see here isnt the first stress you put on the wings... perhaps you have already weakened things from aggressive flying before... a short video in mid dogfight isnt very compelling evidence of an issue.

[otto]

The thing is that your airframe will take damage, so maybe what we see here isnt the first stress you put on the wings... perhaps you have already weakened things from aggressive flying before... a short video in mid dogfight isnt very compelling evidence of an issue.

 

 

What about the sp track where i pull 10 g witout blacking out at all ? Come on something is not right here .

 

This is the mp track .I'm inexperienced with sharing stuff.Hope it works.The track was too big to be able to post it on the forum.

 

" weakened things from aggressive flying before" I don't know hot many G's i pulled ,there is no g indicator but because i did not black out even a littel bit during the entire mission it's impossible to prevent braking my wings.

There should be visible,audio warning if not blackout than metal bending under pressure sound.Because in real life you can feel the G force and in the game you can't , you need some visual, audio indication.

 

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jn5ddx2lf8z3wr3/client-20150315-191028.trk?dl=0

 

Thanks for taking the time to analyse this stuf SITH.

Edited March 15, 2015 by otto

[NineLine]

The black out effects, and when they engage are still an open bug.

 

What about the sp track where i pull 10 g witout blacking out at all ? Come on something is not right here .

 

This is the mp track .I'm inexperienced with sharing stuff.Hope it works.The track was too big to be able to post it on the forum.

 

" weakened things from aggressive flying before" I don't know hot many G's i pulled ,there is no g indicator but because i did not black out even a littel bit during the entire mission it's impossible to prevent braking my wings.

There should be visible,audio warning if not blackout than metal bending under pressure sound.Because in real life you can feel the G force and in the game you can't , you need some visual, audio indication.

 

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jn5ddx2lf8z3wr3/client-20150315-191028.trk?dl=0

 

Thanks for taking the time to analyse this stuf SITH.

[otto]

I recorded the whole tacview track. I pulled modest amount of G before the final scene from the duel i posted earlier (video at 211 post).

Also at the moment my wing broke i pulled 6.7 G.It seems too low for the wing to brake IMHO.

 

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also i only got hit 4 times by p51 mg so there should be almost no damage because of that.

In the picture last green marking from the bottom :

 

[NineLine]

Have you tried in 1.2.16 released today?

[otto]

Have you tried in 1.2.16 released today?

 

The version i used when i played MP yesterday was 1.2.16.37558.

[NineLine]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=140813

[Kwiatek]

Newest version. Still a lot wing broken in 109. Only change i notice not wing tips broken but rather half or whole wing.

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

^^not new but already a change with 1.2.15

 

anyway here is a little track.never reached even 8g.iirc max g was 7.2 where the wing eventually broke.also no prior damage, as this was in the free flight mission which ships with the game.

paper-wings.trk

[Solty]

YoYo already said in the other thread that they are working on it.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2353222&postcount=31

7g and 10.5 g but there are some issues with multiple fatique cases we are fixing now. So the worst case now is if the plane is near stall and near 7 g limit.

[NineLine]

FYI if you are knew to this thread: As far as I know, this problem is now fixed.

 

I agree, they seem much better now. I was hoping to hear some positive feedback before closing this thread, but maybe these forums aren't wired that way :P