Complete A-10C Cockpit Interest?

[Warhog]

I have had alot of questions, if i am going to make A-10C sized MFCD bezels.

 

And yes, i am :) heres the first prototype drawing made.

 

 

Sry for the delayed posts i promised... but i have had alot going on lately.... Hope you understand :)

 

Hopefully i will soon have more time, and then more things will happen in this thread :)

 

If I might make a suggestion, I would try and find a suitable display for the size of frame your planning. Then design and build this frame based on that display. That way you can accurately scribe the line work on the sides of the frame so it lines up with the text on the display.

 

I have had considerable difficulty finding a display for this size frame and it would be a shame to offer this only to find that it's only use is taped on to a full size monitor like most people do with the TM frames. The problem is because no one offers 4:3 ratio displays anymore and when you do find a display that has the appropriate vertical dimension, the horizontal dimension is so long that 2" of the display sticks out the side of the dashboard.

 

It might be worth exploring before you get to far ahead on this.

[LynxDK]

Hey Warhog.

 

You are 100% correct, it is a big problem to find a monitor that fits, and i dont really think there is any, unless they get specially manufactored.

 

And even the 4:3 sized one i have found, have problems because they either sticks out the side as you also mention, or they are ruining the view of the instruments beside it.

 

So the solution as you mention, to design these for the available screens might end up as the best way to do this.

 

I have a 27" behind mine, and i can see allready that its not wide enough either, it will miss 6mm of the outer edge of each MFCD.

 

And if you choose a 28" you have the problem with it sticking too far out the sides of the MIP, and im not even sure it even fits in the height, i mean, if its so high that you cant have your legs moving freely.

 

However, there might be one solution, which is to accept that the screen stick out the side, and i know its ugly. But take a look at these 2 pictures, this show that both the A-10C and the A version also had to make room for the Displays installed.

 

 

 

BUT off course its behind the MIP, and they dont stick out the side so they are visible. But it might just be to make a nice cover, that at least could give it a more "finished" look, like its ment to be.

 

I know other people use a number of different screen behind their MIP, and there might be a solution to fix this that way, i just havent seen it yet.

 

So yes... this is not a finished sized project, it might need a little change in dimensions.

 

Personally i also plan on installing a "bag" on top of my Glareshield, like this a-10C have:

 

 

That can also hide a little of that screen sticking out the back.

Edited April 28, 2016 by LynxDK

[agrasyuk]

If I might make a suggestion, I would try and find a suitable display for the size of frame your planning. Then design and build this frame based on that display. That way you can accurately scribe the line work on the sides of the frame so it lines up with the text on the display.

 

I have had considerable difficulty finding a display for this size frame and it would be a shame to offer this only to find that it's only use is taped on to a full size monitor like most people do with the TM frames. The problem is because no one offers 4:3 ratio displays anymore and when you do find a display that has the appropriate vertical dimension, the horizontal dimension is so long that 2" of the display sticks out the side of the dashboard.

 

It might be worth exploring before you get to far ahead on this.

 

John, 4:3 is still very much available. Take a look at this:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/161449181251?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

8" LCD with 6.4" with 4.8" viewable area, so vertically it is only 0.2" short of the real unit. Horizontally the buttons will go over it and it is still will be possible to fit onto or at least close to the 6.75" footprint of real device. (Obviously we ripping out the LCD itself out of factory enclosure)

It can be found for much less too (can't perform in depth ebay search ATM). I picked pair of similar screens for my MFCD attempt for bit below 30$ . but at the end I think I will be building my MIP around 27incher LCD with Linx's bezels whenever available (unless I manage to pull off my own)

Edited April 28, 2016 by agrasyuk

[Dropship Pilot]

I'd suggest to use the LB084S02 8.4" display - it is high enough to cover the whole display area and narrow enough to be covered by the display frame.

 

Cheers,

DSP

[LynxDK]

I'd suggest to use the LB084S02 8.4" display - it is high enough to cover the whole display area and narrow enough to be covered by the display frame.

 

Cheers,

DSP

 

Yea those displays would work it seems..... i need to get a few of those.

 

Here is a couple of files regarding the MIP Center Piece.

Dimensions and Mounting Templates, both in 1:1 printable PDF and in DXF.

 

http://lynx.dk/blueprints/A-10C%20MIP%20Center%20Piece%20Dimensions.pdf

 

 

http://lynx.dk/blueprints/A-10C%20MIP%20Center%20Piece%20Printable.pdf

 

 

And here is the DXF: lynx.dk/blueprints/A-10C%20MIP%20Center%20Piece.dxf

Edited January 12, 2017 by LynxDK

[MacFevre]

Again, nicely done! And the dxf is really over the top! Thank you for your contributions. Of course, I already got one. It mounts and looks fabulous. It holds real instruments very well and very solid. Honestly, I was a tad, just a tad mind you, worried with the whole 3-D printing thing and how well it would hold up.

 

I know you mentioned somewhere you could use an aluminum backing on the back-side if you were worried. Well I'm telling you, it was totally unfounded and works great without it. Top notch design and production!

 

For those with any aesthetic concern, it is easy to sand down the 3-D printed "grain" and use a filling primer to make it totally flat. Especially if you want to paint it to match the rest. Here's a couple of pics from mine. (Sorry for the disarray. Flood in basement meant quick disconnect and hurriedly moved to avoid damage. Priorities! ;) )

 

You've really made me a believer when it comes to using 3-D printed parts, in some cases, in production as well as making mock-ups. I was heavily warned by some against any printed parts saying that they are only to be used in the design phase. I guess I can see that with certain products. But with what I've seen you do in your work, first hand I should say, I can now say that, again with certain application—not all maybe, (until I see them,) that perhaps it really will work in the real world. Can't wait to see what more you can make! Thanks!

[AstroEma]

That MIP piece would be used with a monitor and Helios, right? Or only with real instruments?

 

 

 

 

Yea those displays would work it seems..... i need to get a few of those.

 

Here is a couple of files regarding the MIP Center Piece.

Dimensions and Mounting Templates, both in 1:1 printable PDF and in DXF.

 

http://lynx.dk/blueprints/A-10C%20MIP%20Center%20Piece%20Dimensions.pdf

 

 

http://lynx.dk/blueprints/A-10C%20MIP%20Center%20Piece%20Printable.pdf

 

 

And here is the DXF: http://lynx.dk/blueprints/A-10C%20MIP%20Center%20Piece.dxf

[LynxDK]

That MIP piece would be used with a monitor and Helios, right? Or only with real instruments?

 

Your right, it can be used with a monitor running Helios.

But it will also be able to hold real instruments, as you can see in Mac's pictures, i believe the Altimeter and the VVI are real instruments. When i get my MIP finished i will post pictures of the thing with a monitor behind it. But the pictures Mac posted really shows it, hes just missing the instrument bezels and the monitor :)

 

Its looking really good Mac, your paint job really looks like its one big piece. And the installed Glareshield just make it stand out :)

 

Looking forward to see the rest of your MIP when you recieve the Bezels im making for you :)

Edited April 29, 2016 by LynxDK

[LynxDK]

Here is my Main Instrument Panel Drawings.

 

These drawings are for both people who want to install Real Instruments, Instruments Replicas and for those who want a Glass cockpit, with a monitor behind all instruments.

But i will upload a version only for Glass Cockpits, as those MIP dont need to have as much Material removed.

 

This is also Version 1.0, so you can keep track if it happens that i add, or make changes.

 

Dimensions and Cutting Templates, both in 1:1 printable PDF and in DXF.

 

http://lynx.dk/blueprints/A-10C%20MIP%20Real%20Instruments%20Dimensions%20v.1.0.pdf

 

 

http://lynx.dk/blueprints/A-10C%20MIP%20Real%20Instruments%20Printable%20v.1.0.pdf

 

 

And here is the DXF: lynx.dk/blueprints/A-10C%20MIP%20Real%20Instruments%20v.1.0.dxf

 

The Dimensions and mounting template for the Glareshield is next. :)

Edited January 12, 2017 by LynxDK

[MacFevre]

Again, top notch (and top shelf! ;) ) Thank you Lynx.

[Dropship Pilot]

Great stuff! :thumbup:

Thanks a lot!

 

Cheers,

DSP

[LynxDK]

And the Glareshield Dimensions, the mounting template is on the way.

 

http://lynx.dk/blueprints/A-10C%20Glareshield%20Dimensions%20v.1.0.pdf

Edited January 12, 2017 by LynxDK

[JCook]

Thanks

 

Excellent Work. Thank you for posting these dxf files.

[Deadman]

Lynx congratulations on releasing your first version of your Main Instrument Panel (MIP) and Glare Shield plans.

I know first hand the countless hours of working on them the time that these have cost you.

I could say how great they look! We know that looks on this kind of work is secondary it all comes down to how it all fits together. The precision of the plans I hope you have achieved this !! You have had a very difficult time gathering your information and your being very gracious in sharing the plans with the limited community here.

Once again congratulations on your accomplishment.

Edited May 2, 2016 by Deadman
Clairity

[simulatoregp]

I watched with admiration his work, congratulations, professional work, all very nice to see. Good job . Best regard from Italy Mr. LinxDK

[LynxDK]

Thank you very much everyone :) It means alot, and i really hope that someone can use this :)

 

Here is the Mounting template for the Glareshield, 1:1 Printable PDF.

 

http://lynx.dk/blueprints/A-10C%20Glareshield%20Printable%20v.1.0.pdf

Edited January 12, 2017 by LynxDK

[MA_Goblin]

Excellent work Lynx, really fantastic to share this with the community.

[Nash]

Really Neat stuff Lynx...

Excellent attention to detail ... Keep it up Bro ... :thumbup:

[LynxDK]

Hello.

 

A little bit late, but as promised i can here show you the prototypes of the ADI and HSI bezels.

They still need frontglass, screws and knobs, but they are as shown.

 

 

 

I can also show a little bezel for the F-16 People, which is still in development, since the dials inside the bezel off course wont be there when installed in front of a LCD. But it will in the future real instrument.

 

 

 

Now i would like to tell you why it has been so long since my last post here.

 

My partner and i have had alot of things going on, and we have finally been approved for exporting outside EU.

 

What that means for those of you who are interested in our products, is that you will be able to purchase from us, ex. Danish VAT Which is the 25%. Instead we can export, and then you only pay whatever import VAT is required in your country, if there is any.

 

Sadly this only counts for costumers outside EU, for those of you who order form inside EU, still have to pay the Danish VAT rate.

 

We are also working on a Webshop, where all of our product will be available.

Edited May 30, 2016 by LynxDK

[MacFevre]

Excellent news! I, for one, wouldn't mind paying 25% less! :D

[Deadman]

I am not familiar with the bezel you have made for the F-16 what is it a Standby Attitude Indicator?

[LynxDK]

You are correct, it is the Backup ADI, which is accually the same as the one in the A-10C, but the A-10 have a "light" plate ontop of it.

[Jyden]

Excellent news! I, for one, wouldn't mind paying 25% less! :D

 

It's "only" 20% less - The 25% is when adding the tax. Congratulations on getting the export stuff worked out.

[LynxDK]

You are totally right, the Danish VAT is 25%.

 

And you save 20% on the products. :)

 

Forgot to write that, Thanx :)

Edited May 30, 2016 by LynxDK

[Hansolo]

Congratulations on getting the export approved, LynxDK,

 

Cheers

Hans