Sokol1_br Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 I have a F22PRO that can donate the shifter PCB (I dont like this "F-16" grip layout), but the postage cost here is expensive... Why dont try find the chip on shifter register board and assemble some boards? The PCB layout see simple, easy to copy. FLCS has gears between gimbal and pots and I think that it is a problem. Why not replace the pots with HALL sensor?
debolestis Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 I have a F22PRO that can donate the shifter PCB (I dont like this "F-16" grip layout), but the postage cost here is expensive... Why dont try find the chip on shifter register board and assemble some boards? The PCB layout see simple, easy to copy. Why not replace the pots with HALL sensor? Pots are CH and are OK, problem is in gears. Gimbal in just not smooth as CH. Any ideas for DIY grip mounts? - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
debolestis Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 on eBay now: Thrust Master F-16 Flight Simulator Limited Edition Only 5000 made. This is first time that I see it on eBay. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Sokol1_br Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Pots are CH and are OK, I hook these "famous" CH pots on BU0836A (Fighterstick base) and dont get impressed... A DIY HALL sensor on CH Combastick base (more flimsy than Fighstersitck) work better. Any ideas for DIY grip mounts? You mean something like Cougar/Warthog/X-55 base collar for remove the grip? Other than these with Gardena connectors I never see. Edited August 24, 2015 by Sokol1_br
Sokol1_br Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 GVL224 make "matrix" board for Tm 'sticks - to replace the shifters. http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?p=27265#27265
Baz000 Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 anyone have issues with trying to trim aircraft using the SUNCOM POV HAT (china hat) on the stick?
Sokol1_br Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Meanwhile, in some "Kore'wood" movie. :) The Suncom "Mig" stick: The throttle, a CH "Cassava". :) http://s17.postimg.org/nlb5slkvz/Kor2.jpg Edited September 1, 2015 by Sokol1_br
debolestis Posted August 30, 2015 Author Posted August 30, 2015 GVL224 make "matrix" board for Tm 'sticks - to replace the shifters. http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?p=27265#27265 I am OK with matrix, I can do it myself, but I wanted shift registers because it is only 5 wires for all grips. I still didn't find schematics for shift registers. I'll try to trace PCB myself. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
debolestis Posted August 30, 2015 Author Posted August 30, 2015 anyone have issues with trying to trim aircraft using the SUNCOM POV HAT (china hat) on the stick? What is the problem? - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Baz000 Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Seems like it's very sensitive, and being that it's a button... The way the sim sees it is based on how long it is held down. But even tapping it quickly it is hard to get perfect trim to be level But maybe it is my technique I don't normally use pov hat for trim, I would use a rotary like on X52. Maybe I'm not using trim on the pov hat the right way... It's like I'm having to fight my own trim, also... Since I'm not real pilot, I really don't know how to trim or how it works in fighter jets. I have seen it on Cessna on youtube videos trying to research and understand it. Also, you guys with suncoms... What settings do you use for various aircraft in terms of curves, deadzones, etc? For the stick and the throttle? Edited August 31, 2015 by Baz000
debolestis Posted September 7, 2015 Author Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Can somebody tell me what is thread size on this: Metric or imperial? Edited July 11, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Sokol1_br Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 In these "Warthog extension" topics is said that is M36x2.0
debolestis Posted September 9, 2015 Author Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) I bought one of Gardena's hose addons. It fits perfectly on Combatstick, I didn't use glue, it is great fit. This will be the base for replaceable grips. I need to see what can I use to attach them to the base. I have few ideas, we'll see. Also I have to trace shift registers PCB from FLCS. Edited July 11, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Sokol1_br Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 Look this, mic' connector? https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2zIeYwbAIHORzJkSHAxLTkwbnM&usp=sharing
Sokol1_br Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 Debolesis, You have success in use "shift registers" and Matrix in same MMjoy2?
debolestis Posted September 15, 2015 Author Posted September 15, 2015 Debolesis, You have success in use "shift registers" and Matrix in same MMjoy2? I didn't try yet. Mega_mozg said it is possible with some "magic"? - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Sokol1_br Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 HALL sensor mini-stick - analog (3 pin): http://polyshine.sell.everychina.com/p-97759459-joystick-potentiometer-non-contact-16mm-plastic-shaft-hall-effect-with-tact-switch.html Building a "shift register" with CD 4021: https://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ShiftIn
debolestis Posted September 23, 2015 Author Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) HALL sensor mini-stick - analog (3 pin): http://polyshine.sell.everychina.com/p-97759459-joystick-potentiometer-non-contact-16mm-plastic-shaft-hall-effect-with-tact-switch.html This is great, but where to buy them, it says 1,000 pieces is minimum order. Building a "shift register" with CD 4021: https://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ShiftIn I just saw this today, and saw schematics. According to this schematic: it looks like THIS could also work: Or THIS: It needs only a RESISTOR NETWORK on outputs: Resistor networks can be seen here: This is from my FLCS. I was also been doing some work on Pro Micro shield. It can be done without it but it will make thing easier. I'll try to find some PCB service on eBay and make something that looks professional. This is just an example of single sided design: But I'll probably go with double sided PCB. I am still learning Eagle CAD, I'll probably need some help. I'll also try to make PCB for shift registers. Edited July 11, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Sokol1_br Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 What is the size of this shift register board inside FLCS?
debolestis Posted September 26, 2015 Author Posted September 26, 2015 27x52 mm. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Sokol1_br Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 In this size will be difficult to make without use double layer PCB... not very suitable for DIY.
debolestis Posted September 26, 2015 Author Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) In this size will be difficult to make without use double layer PCB... not very suitable for DIY. It would be very difficult to make it on stripboard. I am trying to make it in Eagle CAD, double layer, even that way is not easy. My skills in Eagle are basic, maybe we could develop a PCB here on forum, I don't know if people are interested in shift registers. Please let me know if somebody is willing to work on it. I made schematics (not sure if it is OK) and started to work on PCB layout. I found THIS on eBay. 10 PCBs for 14$. Edited September 26, 2015 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
debolestis Posted September 26, 2015 Author Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) I made plastic adapters that fit on Gardena hose connector. I need to figure out where to add connectors. I was thinking to do something with PS/2 connectors. Edited July 11, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Sokol1_br Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) Looks good. Did this PCB in Sprint Layout, dual layer in 27x52mm, just as reference (not sure about the scheme). Based on Tm layout, each block of 5 pins connect 4 buttons and +5V. In the left side the +5V trail is highlight In the right side, highlight the pin3 of first CD4021 connected to pin 11 of the second. Resistor bridge is connected to pin 8, connected to GND connector. In Tm board has additional component (Tantalun capacitor??? is "0.1uF capacitors in octopus boards) in the board... dont know wheres is connected, probable between +5V and GND... Ops1. Forget to connect pin 9 and 10 from the 1st CD4021 do the 2nd and 3rd. :doh: Edited September 27, 2015 by Sokol1_br
Sokol1_br Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 For up 16 buttons you can do a shift register PCB with 2 CD4021 with tonner transfer medhod - need only 3 wire jump.
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