109's @ IWM Duxford [1995] with pilot comments

[[DBS]TH0R]

I found this documentary sitting in my watch list for quite some time. I can't remember who or where posted it, but I'm glad that I finally found some time to watch it today. Been flying DCS 109 recently more than any other module, and I do have to say I am getting quite fond of it.

 

This documentary is from 1995 when two DB 109s visited IWM Duxford. Includes lots of footage, even in-cockpit shots where you can see how much stick movement is used during maneuvers. Since this is 1995 we're talking about, don't expect GoPro quality. :)

 

The part I found most interesting starts at 8:57, with comments from Dave Southwood about how the plane handles, from TO, through maneuvers, to landing:

 

https://youtu.be/IbeRn1rgoIo?t=8m57s

 

- Which very closely correlates to my own experience with DCS module. Lots of rudder use through all the maneuvers with "fairly low directional stability" both on TO and landing, and in the air.

 

Another interesting (and new) info for me was the expected engine life: 150 hours.

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[tflash]

Great! Incredible engine sound also!

[Kelevra]

I found this documentary sitting in my watch list for quite some time. I can't remember who or where posted it, but I'm glad that I finally found some time to watch it today. Been flying DCS 109 recently more than any other module, and I do have to say I am getting quite fond of it.

 

This documentary is from 1995 when two DB 109s visited IMW Duxford. Includes lots of footage, even in-cockpit shots where you can see how much stick movement is used during maneuvers. Since this is 1995 we're talking about, don't expect GoPro quality. :)

 

The part I found most interesting starts at 8:57, with comments from Dave Southwood about how the plane handles, from TO, through maneuvers, to landing:

 

https://youtu.be/IbeRn1rgoIo?t=8m57s

 

- Which very closely correlates to my own experience with DCS module. Lots of rudder use through all the maneuvers with "fairly low directional stability" both on TO and landing, and in the air.

 

Another interesting (and new) info for me was the expected engine life: 150 hours.

 

 

this is great thanks

[Echo38]

Good find! I don't think I've ever seen a 109 pushed that hard before, and that wasn't even full power, of course. Very impressive! His aerobatics reminded me of the P-51's at Oshkosh. Wish we could see these birds at WEP, but even at ~half-power, they can do some crazy things.

[[DBS]TH0R]

Thanks. :)

 

Quick Google search revealed a lot more detailed report from the same pilot, Dave Southwood:

 

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/articles/airframes/black6/bk6_flight.htm

[Kelevra]

it has already been published around here somewhere but to regroup the data I put it here as well :

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/articles/109myths/

[[DBS]TH0R]

From the above linked article:

 

When these deploy at low speeds or in a turn, a 'clunk' can be heard and felt, but there is no disturbance to the aircraft about any axis.

[NineLine]

I like how these pilots all say how much work it is to pull off a good show, and to become good in the aircraft, but some of our virtual pilots think they can jump in and be expert aces right out of the gates :)

[Teapot]

I like how these pilots all say how much work it is to pull off a good show, and to become good in the aircraft, but some of our virtual pilots think they can jump in and be expert aces right out of the gates :)

 

Well actually it all depends on the quality of the joystick/HOTAS.

If said pilots would only invest in a *good* joystick, they'd probably find airshows a doddle.

I'm sure the planes can be retro-fitted so there's no excuse to be using the original 1940's era gear ... honestly! :P

[Pman]

I like how these pilots all say how much work it is to pull off a good show, and to become good in the aircraft, but some of our virtual pilots think they can jump in and be expert aces right out of the gates :)

 

+1

 

Dave is a good friend of mine and one of the experts on our Buchon

 

Pman