SilentBob Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 I'm using 1024 MB of RAM right now. will 2 Gigs of RAM up my performence considering my specs? (see my specs below) will winXP benefit from one more Gig or is it worthless? SB ** image removed by moderator ** System Specs: intel Core i7 2600K, nVidia GTX580 ,8GB x1333 MHz RAM ,Win 7 ultimate 64bit, LG FLATRON W24553v 24" Monitor. MSFF 2 stick (yeah, it sucks).
TucksonSonny Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 I'm using 1024 MB of RAM right now. will 2 Gigs of RAM up my performence considering my specs? (see my specs below) will winXP benefit from one more Gig or is it worthless? SB Except for better loadtimes: totally useless, worthless… DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
SilentBob Posted May 14, 2006 Author Posted May 14, 2006 Except for better loadtimes: totally useless, worthless… Yes I know it's LockOn forum but I AM playing some other games too.... so while LockOn may not benefit from such an upgrade, some other games will? the reason I'm being such a pain is because a friend of mine told me that WinXP doesn't make use of more than a Gig of RAM, so I better wait for the WinVista before I throw in another Gig. can this be true? SB ** image removed by moderator ** System Specs: intel Core i7 2600K, nVidia GTX580 ,8GB x1333 MHz RAM ,Win 7 ultimate 64bit, LG FLATRON W24553v 24" Monitor. MSFF 2 stick (yeah, it sucks).
TucksonSonny Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 On bigger missions 2GIGs makes a huge difference Send me your biggest mission and I will show you how much ram you will need! Simulation is about a lot of calculations thus CPU/GPU related. DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
TucksonSonny Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 Yes I know it's LockOn forum but I AM playing some other games too.... so while LockOn may not benefit from such an upgrade, some other games will? the reason I'm being such a pain is because a friend of mine told me that WinXP doesn't make use of more than a Gig of RAM, so I better wait for the WinVista before I throw in another Gig. can this be true? SB This is related not to Vista but to 32 or 64bit (including your driver support) WinXp 32 bit -> can not benefit more than 2Gb WinXp 64 bit version and Vista 64 bit version will benefit from a lot more (theoretically power(2,64)) WinVista will come also in 32bit version thus the WinXp64 bit version would be technically better than the Vista32 bit version. DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
SilentBob Posted May 14, 2006 Author Posted May 14, 2006 As I am using an Athlon64 I guess a 64bit OS will be my choice..;) so Vista64... but you ARE saying that XP Pro can benefit fron 2 Gigs of RAM, correct? SB ** image removed by moderator ** System Specs: intel Core i7 2600K, nVidia GTX580 ,8GB x1333 MHz RAM ,Win 7 ultimate 64bit, LG FLATRON W24553v 24" Monitor. MSFF 2 stick (yeah, it sucks).
LawnDart Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 I think the bottom line is that if you plan on running Vista, you definitely want to stock up on RAM! Lock-On will run better with 2 gigs, but the increase is not nearly as big as the 512K to 1 gig. Overall you can't go wrong upgrading, especially considering Windows development... LD [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 |
TucksonSonny Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 As I am using an Athlon64 I guess a 64bit OS will be my choice..;) so Vista64... but you ARE saying that XP Pro can benefit fron 2 Gigs of RAM, correct? SB Limitations of 32-bit x86 Architecture: User processes limited to flat 4 GB virtual address space ( power(2,32)) - Windows typically occupies the first 2 GB of memory Applications must use complex workarounds to map to additional memory (e.g., Address Windowing Extensions [AWE]) Translating between virtual and physical memory impacts performance - 64-bit Systems eliminate the 4 GB memory barrier (Runs 64-bit applications 8 TB Virtual Address Space) DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
Sleek Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 Windows XP supports upto 4gig of ram..I personally have 2*1 gig OCZ Platinum and 2* 512 running in dual Channel DDR400 mode (3 gig total) check my system spec's. LOFC runs absolutley fine with setting on high except water on medium..maybey it's because i'm not running dual core? And BF2 benifits with 2gig installed,IMO Be Good..Be Strong..:drink: ;)
NEODARK Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 2gigs remove the stutter from lockon. The other thing that you will notice is that when you quit the game, its instantaneous. you dont have to wait. it definitelly does help, its up to you. More ram never hurts, specially looking at your system specs you have a strong CPU and GPU, so now give it more ram, you wont regreet it ;) XP Pro and other games will really benefit from this, as well as apps like photoshop and video editing.
hitman Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 why on earth would anyone want to install windows vista? Its minimum recommended specs is 1 gig alone just to run the o/s...not to mention it will take up over 3 gigs of space on the hard drive. Personally I would stick with WinXp64 or even windows 2kpro.
Sleek Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 why on earth would anyone want to install windows vista? Its minimum recommended specs is 1 gig alone just to run the o/s...not to mention it will take up over 3 gigs of space on the hard drive. Personally I would stick with WinXp64 or even windows 2kpro. Fair comment but with RAM being so cheap now and hard drive's..why not upgrade? Be Good..Be Strong..:drink: ;)
hitman Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 Ok the average stick of pc3200 will run about 100 bucks. The average s-ata (or ata) hard drive that holds 250 gbs will run about the same price. 200 bucks for an upgrade JUST to run Vista. How much is it expected for Vista to run? The home version basically will run you at least 300 bucks. 500 bucks just to run something that looks slightly better than windows xp. I think Ill stick with windows xp.
G3 Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 judging by your current system specs, yet not being specific to lockon and focusing on the original question, i have absolutley no doubt that another gig of ram will increase your systems performance, end of story. go for it and enjoy the added performance.
Fish Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Just upgraded from 1.5gig, to 2gig, dual channel, there a noticable change for me in preformance in lockon, much stutter is gone, and load times down. Should have done this a long time ago.. Fish's Flight Sim Videos [sIGPIC]I13700k, RTX4090, 64gb ram @ 3600, superUltraWide 5120x1440, 2560x1440, 1920x1080, Warthog, Tusba TQS, Reverb VR1000, Pico 4, Wifi6 router, 360/36 internet[/sIGPIC]
Rocket75 Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Yeah, I just went from 1gb to 2gb, and noticed a huge difference. Especially if you use TrackIR. When I used to load and hit the cockpit, it would stutter for 10-15 seconds until I had looked all around the cockpit. Now, instantly all is smooth. And like NeoDark said, when you quit LOMAC, there is no waiting for LOMAC to clear the ram before you can do something else with the PC. It is instant. I can also Alt-Tab out of the game with a MAJOR improvement. Pc hardly even struggles now, before I kept thinking LOMAC was going to crash because it took so long to hit the desktop when alt-tabbing. It was worth every penny, and I wish I had done it sooner. 2 cents! P4-2.4QC-oc'd to 3.2ghz, 2gb Crucial PC6400 DDR2-1066mhz, Evga 8800GTS 640mb, Sata Drives, TIR3Pro
Guest Hell Sqn Protos Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 S~! Thanks for the tip gentlemen. Going to grab a few sticks tommorow.:thumbup:
ED Team Groove Posted May 15, 2006 ED Team Posted May 15, 2006 Is Lockon Running under Windows XP 64 bit Editon ? Anyone tried to run it ? Im asking because of Starforce. Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
SilentBob Posted May 15, 2006 Author Posted May 15, 2006 Good points Gents. I'll go and see about that extra Gig. back with first impressions soon. SB ** image removed by moderator ** System Specs: intel Core i7 2600K, nVidia GTX580 ,8GB x1333 MHz RAM ,Win 7 ultimate 64bit, LG FLATRON W24553v 24" Monitor. MSFF 2 stick (yeah, it sucks).
Dudikoff Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Ok the average stick of pc3200 will run about 100 bucks. The average s-ata (or ata) hard drive that holds 250 gbs will run about the same price. 200 bucks for an upgrade JUST to run Vista. How much is it expected for Vista to run? The home version basically will run you at least 300 bucks. 500 bucks just to run something that looks slightly better than windows xp. I think Ill stick with windows xp. It's the standard debate whenever a new OS shows up but eventually they'll make you switch to Vista. Newer games will demand DX10 which will only be on Vista; other applications will probably do the same and with time will not support WinXP. BTW, RAM is getting pretty cheap and you don't need a 250 GB HD for Vista. It's only 3 Gigs vs. 1 Gig. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
hitman Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 To say that Dx10 wont work on Windows Xp would be akin to saying that Dx8.1 didnt ship on win2k or windows Me. If vista is a whole new line of filing system (unlike fat32 or NTFS) then I can see your point. It will be a LONG time before games start using Dx10 anyways.
Fish Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 To say that Dx10 wont work on Windows Xp would be akin to saying that Dx8.1 didnt ship on win2k or windows Me. If vista is a whole new line of filing system (unlike fat32 or NTFS) then I can see your point. It will be a LONG time before games start using Dx10 anyways. A little off topic, but. Heres my take on it. -DX9 will not run on Vista -DX10 will not run on XP, -Games which are built around earlier DX technology will run on DX10 (maybe not so much earlier though). -Games which are built around DX10 technology will not run on XP. Anything else is illogical. The last point is likely to cause a dilema for game developers. http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=392627 Fish's Flight Sim Videos [sIGPIC]I13700k, RTX4090, 64gb ram @ 3600, superUltraWide 5120x1440, 2560x1440, 1920x1080, Warthog, Tusba TQS, Reverb VR1000, Pico 4, Wifi6 router, 360/36 internet[/sIGPIC]
NEODARK Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Heres my take on it. -DX9 will not run on Vista -DX10 will not run on XP, -Games which are built around earlier DX technology will run on DX10 (maybe not so much earlier though). -Games which are built around DX10 technology will not run on XP. -DX9 games WILL run on VISTA (via DX9L) -Correct, not for now. (nothing is set in stone yet) -Aren't you contradicting your earlier point? -Not necessarily. Many games are coded with different render paths (like DX9, DX8 and DX7, etc) Some will be made to run ONLY on vista though. Cheers.
Fish Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 -DX9 games WILL run on VISTA (via DX9L) -Correct, not for now. (nothing is set in stone yet) -Aren't you contradicting your earlier point? -Not necessarily. Many games are coded with different render paths (like DX9, DX8 and DX7, etc) Some will be made to run ONLY on vista though. Cheers. On the first point, what i meant was Vista will come with DX10 native, we wont be installing DX9 or any other 'DX..' over it. But DX...n based games will run on it. Like at present it will be backward compatible to a degree. Many games are coded with different render paths (like DX9, DX8 and DX7, etc) Some will be made to run ONLY on vista though. Cheers. Yeah thats my point, to code a game to run on different render paths, will either compromise the appearance in DX10, or be costly. Thus one of the dilemas. .... Thanks, Fish's Flight Sim Videos [sIGPIC]I13700k, RTX4090, 64gb ram @ 3600, superUltraWide 5120x1440, 2560x1440, 1920x1080, Warthog, Tusba TQS, Reverb VR1000, Pico 4, Wifi6 router, 360/36 internet[/sIGPIC]
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