SimShaker for DCS World Sound Mode Expansion - Discussion

[=Andre=]

Hi Gregg,

that seems to be a known issue, please read here how to fix https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=175028&page=7

[Snacko]

I'm new to this, and have read about a Demo mode? Is there a Demo download to try before buy? I cannot find a link.. Thanks.

[=Andre=]

Please visit these pages

https://dreamsimteam.blogspot.ru/p/simshaker-and-buttkicker.html

https://dreamsimteam.blogspot.ru/p/downloads.html

[=Andre=]

There is a Demo mode, but there is no a separate demo software to download.

[shagrat]

Demo means effects are Limited to a few...

[Snacko]

Thanks guys. I figured out the demo mode. I have an old Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer sound card in a box somewhere. Now all I need is a Buttkicker.

 

Buttkicker has been out of stock for many months. But it turns out that they are just 5 miles down the road from me, and they hope to get new stock maybe in January..

[Mango]

Those things are surprisingly hard to get hold of! It took me about two months to get a ButtKicker Gamer last year.

[Bond 42]

SimShaker for DCS World Sound Mode Expansion - Discussion

 

Delete.

Edited November 23, 2016 by Bond 42

[Snacko]

Still waiting for my amp. But I have some questions.

 

1) With Left and Right channels separated do you feel different effects with each channel? If so, what effects are left or right? If a missle fires off the right rail do you get a bump on the right channel? etc..

 

2) Also, if you want to use your Transducers on other games, how do you set that up? I assume the other games would need to use your normal sound card. But your Transducers are wired to your second sound card. So do you split the output of the normal sound card to a switch or something so you can turn that feed on and off?

[Brewnix]

Still waiting for my amp. But I have some questions.

 

1) With Left and Right channels separated do you feel different effects with each channel? If so, what effects are left or right? If a missle fires off the right rail do you get a bump on the right channel? etc..

 

2) Also, if you want to use your Transducers on other games, how do you set that up? I assume the other games would need to use your normal sound card. But your Transducers are wired to your second sound card. So do you split the output of the normal sound card to a switch or something so you can turn that feed on and off?

 

 

Second Question-Yes there is a y adapter you can pluggin for use with games that you can't use shimshaker with. I would switch back and forth when I was active flyer in IL2-clod from second to main sound card. SO dcs got the second card with buttkicker amp and when i flew CLod i would switch the amp input cord to the main sound card I used for IL2. But you'll feel everything. So if you run TS3 thru same card you feel people talking too. Unless you use a USB headset then that would Isolate the TS3 Problem.

[Snacko]

Thanks Brewnix!

 

I got my amp yesterday and have it setup today.

 

I have the audio coming from the Front Left and Right since I have 2 transducers. Is that the correct output to use? Or should I be using another?

 

Also, I am awaiting my key for the module. In demo mode, it seems the runway effect keeps on even after takeoff. In the log screen it kept saying something about play the effect and skip it. This even though I was in flight. And with that effect running all the time I could not tell if the stall effect was working when I stalled.

 

And still wondering how the Left/Right channel effects work?

[Brewnix]

Thanks Brewnix!

 

I got my amp yesterday and have it setup today.

 

I have the audio coming from the Front Left and Right since I have 2 transducers. Is that the correct output to use? Or should I be using another?

 

Also, I am awaiting my key for the module. In demo mode, it seems the runway effect keeps on even after takeoff. In the log screen it kept saying something about play the effect and skip it. This even though I was in flight. And with that effect running all the time I could not tell if the stall effect was working when I stalled.

 

And still wondering how the Left/Right channel effects work?

 

So i asked the same question here and i think you might be right on left and right channel here the answer from Andre.

having the effect after takeoff might be a bug heard of this acouple of patches ago. it might clear up after the key maybe!

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2673928&postcount=611

Edited December 5, 2016 by Brewnix

[=Andre=]

Also, I am awaiting my key for the module.

 

Hi Snacko,

please send me your activation string, so I could generate the key for you.

[=Andre=]

1) With Left and Right channels separated do you feel different effects with each channel? If so, what effects are left or right? If a missle fires off the right rail do you get a bump on the right channel? etc..

 

Here is a list of double sided FXs, I hope this will help you Andrew:

 

Id = "p2_7_8_L", Description = "Landing gear - left side"},//7.Вибро: выпуск/уборка левой стойки шасси FW190, A10c
Id = "p2_7_8_R", Description = "Landing gear - right side"},//7.Вибро: выпуск/уборка правой стойки шасси FW190, A10c 
Id = "hp_11_0_L", Description = "Missile launch/gun fire - left side"},//11.Вибро: Освобождение внешних подвесок (левая сторона)
Id = "hp_11_0_R", Description = "Missile launch/gun fire - right side"},//11.Вибро: Освобождение внешних подвесок (правая сторона)
Id = "p1_10_0_L", Description = "Failure - left side"},//10.Вибро: Отказы (левая сторона)
Id = "p1_10_0_R", Description = "Failure - right side"},//10.Вибро: Отказы (правая сторона)
Id = "p1_2_0_L", ReduceOtherEffectsVolume = true, Description = "Jet afteburner left engine"},//2.Вибро: Форсаж реактивного левого двиг. - самолеты 
Id = "p1_2_0_R", ReduceOtherEffectsVolume = true, Description = "Jet afteburner right engine"},//2.Вибро: Форсаж реактивного правого двиг. - самолеты 
Id = "p2_6_11_1", Description = "MG151 fire Fw190 left side"},//6.Вибро: Fw190 выстрел из левой пушки
Id = "p2_6_11_2", Description = "MG151 fire Fw190 right side"},//6.Вибро: Fw190 выстрел из правой пушки
Id = "p2_6_11_3", Description = "MG131 fire Fw190 left side"},//6.Вибро: Fw190 выстрел из левого пулемета
Id = "p2_6_11_4", Description = "MG131 fire Fw190 right side"},//6.Вибро: Fw190 выстрел из правого пулемета
Id = "h_14_0_L", Description = "Door close or tear off - left side"},
Id = "h_14_0_R", Description = "Door close or tear off - right side"},
Id = "hp_4_0_2L", Description = "Touch down left main gear"}, //4.Вибро: толчки и тряска на земле - касание при посадке
Id = "hp_4_0_2R", Description = "Touch down right main gear"}, //4.Вибро: толчки и тряска на земле - касание при посадке

Edited December 5, 2016 by =Andre=

[Snacko]

Thanks for the Left/Right info.

 

I just sent an email to dreamsimteam with my key. Thanks.

[Snacko]

Why do I get this message if I move the desktop shortcut? Is there no way around this? I don't normally keep many shortcuts on my desktop...

"Oops! Could not find "SimShaker for Aviators" shortcut at your Desktop, pilot."

 

I have the key and am testing the effects on the A10c. I noticed that when I do 'Create Fast Mission' and Airstart, I am getting the Taxiway bumps continiously even though I am in the air. And I am seeing them continuously sent to the log as well.

 

Also, I see an engine rumble effect for the A10c, and I do see it in the log, but even when I set it's Gain to 100% I still feel nothing for the engine.

 

Cheers BTW! This is going to be well worth the money I can see. I am already planning on getting 2 more transducers for my foot pedals.

Awesome Job Andre!!

Edited December 5, 2016 by Snacko

[=Andre=]

What version of SimShaker do you use?

 

I noticed that when I do 'Create Fast Mission' and Airstart, I am getting the Taxiway bumps continiously even though I am in the air. And I am seeing them continuously sent to the log as well.

What if you start from the ground? Edited December 5, 2016 by =Andre=

[=Andre=]

Why do I get this message if I move the desktop shortcut? Is there no way around this? I don't normally keep many shortcuts on my desktop...

"Oops! Could not find "SimShaker for Aviators" shortcut at your Desktop, pilot."

 

Please make an exception from the rule for SimShaker, we use that shortcut to copy into Windows Startup folder. We'll try to find another way in the future.

[Snacko]

What version of SimShaker do you use?

 

What if you start from the ground?

If I start from the Runway it works fine. I get the runway bumps and they stop when I rotate.

 

I just started it to look for the version and it gave me a 'Unhandled Exception has occured...' error. The title bar of that crash window says it is version 1.0.0.16. The main window for SSA also says 1.0.0.16. And the Sound Module says 1.0.0.35.

 

Here is the Unhandled exception details if you need them:

 

See the end of this message for details on invoking

just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

 

************** Exception Text **************

System.Net.Sockets.SocketException (0x80004005): Only one usage of each socket address (protocol/network address/port) is normally permitted

at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.DoBind(EndPoint endPointSnapshot, SocketAddress socketAddress)

at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.Bind(EndPoint localEP)

at System.Net.Sockets.UdpClient..ctor(Int32 port, AddressFamily family)

at SimShaker.MainForm.MainForm_Shown(Object sender, EventArgs e)

at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnShown(EventArgs e)

at System.Windows.Forms.Form.CallShownEvent()

at System.Windows.Forms.Control.InvokeMarshaledCallbackDo(ThreadMethodEntry tme)

at System.Windows.Forms.Control.InvokeMarshaledCallbackHelper(Object obj)

at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)

at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)

at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)

at System.Windows.Forms.Control.InvokeMarshaledCallback(ThreadMethodEntry tme)

at System.Windows.Forms.Control.InvokeMarshaledCallbacks()

 

 

************** Loaded Assemblies **************

mscorlib

Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0

Win32 Version: 4.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2

CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v4.0.30319/mscorlib.dll

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System

Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0

Win32 Version: 4.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2

CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll

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SimShaker for Aviators

Assembly Version: 1.0.0.16

Win32 Version: 1.0.0.16

CodeBase: file:///C:/Users/Andy/AppData/Local/Apps/2.0/PJ80X92J.ELZ/Y3LP245E.9B7/sims..tion_72448bad5ae2df46_0001.0000_465fe5f821295969/SimShaker%20for%20Aviators.exe

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System.Windows.Forms

Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0

Win32 Version: 4.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2

CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll

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System.Drawing

Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0

Win32 Version: 4.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2

CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll

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System.Configuration

Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0

Win32 Version: 4.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2

CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll

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System.Core

Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0

Win32 Version: 4.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2

CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Core/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Core.dll

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System.Xml

Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0

Win32 Version: 4.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2

CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll

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Accessibility

Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0

Win32 Version: 4.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2

CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll

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System.Xml.Linq

Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0

Win32 Version: 4.6.1586.0 built by: NETFXREL2

CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml.Linq/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.Linq.dll

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************** JIT Debugging **************

To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this

application or computer (machine.config) must have the

jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.

The application must also be compiled with debugging

enabled.

 

For example:

 

<configuration>

<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />

</configuration>

 

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception

will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer

rather than be handled by this dialog box.

I think this may have been because it was already running in the taskbar. I do see 2 SSA icons in my SysTray. Do you check for other instances?

[Snacko]

Please make an exception from the rule for SimShaker, we use that shortcut to copy into Windows Startup folder. We'll try to find another way in the future.

I'm a retired developer. I used to use the Window's API to write to registry so apps would run at startup. Normally you would use one of these keys, depending on if you want it to run for just the current login user, or all users:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

 

Cheers.

[=Andre=]

Looks like you've found a bug.

Thank you for the feedback :)

[Snacko]

I assume you are referring to the Runway/Ground Bumps with the Airstart a bug. But what about that I don't feel the Engine Rumble effect at all? Does the A10c have the Engine Rumble effect?

 

I noticed that when I do 'Create Fast Mission' and Airstart, I am getting the Taxiway bumps continiously even though I am in the air. And I am seeing them continuously sent to the log as well.

 

Also, I see an Engine Rumble effect for the A10c, and I do see it in the log, but even when I set it's Gain to 100% I still feel nothing for the engine.

[=Andre=]

Yes, that's right. I assumed Runway/Ground Bumps.

 

Regarding Engine Rumble effect for the A10c.

I may be wrong, since SSA was developed mostly by Olaf (f4l0), not me. But, as far as I know, that FX is not implemented in Sound Module yet. I suggest it's not implemented for A-10c at all.

Let's wait until Olaf will be back and make it clear.

[Snacko]

Ok, thanks.

 

Does it matter which channel I use from my sound card? I'm currently using the Front R/L output. Does Rear R/L and Center/Subwoofer work as well?

[=Andre=]

I recommend you to use stereo Line Out (green socket). In 5.1 configuration you can try Front/Rear channels as well, but not Center/Subwoofer.