VincentLaw Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Yes, radar is used to find the target and measure distance to the target for sight.Can the radar also be used to automatically slew the AIM-9 seeker head towards the target? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Aginor Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Interesting, thank you! DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
pepin1234 Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Can the radar also be used to automatically slew the AIM-9 seeker head towards the target? I believe Yes [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Justificus Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Thanks for posting the news about the F-5's weapons, cofcorpse! Justificus System Specs:i7 4970K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 SC, 32GB G.Skill DDR 2133,Thermaltake Level 10 Full Tower Case, Noctua NH-D15 6 Cooler, Win 10 Pro, Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, CH Throttle Quadrant, Oculus, 1 32" & 2 19" Monitors Modules Owned: A-10C I+II, Ka-50, FC3, F-86, Mig-15, Mig21, UH-1H, Mi-8, CA, P-51D, BF-109K-4, FW-190 D-9, Hawk, NTTR, M-2000C, SA342, F-5E, Spit Mk. IX, AJS-37, Normandy, WWII A.P., AV-8B, F/A-18C, L-39, Persian Gulf, Mig-19P, I-16, Super Carrier, F-16, Channel, Syria
Vampyre Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 We just have to adapt to it's limitations, just like any good pilot would do :) Exactly the way it should be. News: F-5E Tiger II. The armament that is planned to develop Looks like a solid all around weapons selection for the F-5. Keep up the good work! Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
dartuil Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 How much pylons? 5 or 7? i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
dartuil Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) 5 hardpoints so : 2x AIM-9 + 2 Fuel tanks + bombs in centerline ? Basically something like this : http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8535/8644118495_f709be5cda_b.jpg Edited November 10, 2015 by dartuil i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
Exorcet Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 If the F-5 module has greatly reduced weapons options, what happens to the AI unit? The loss of missile carriage has already impacted some of my created missions. If changes are drastic, will the AI be able to keep the expanded weapons load (presumably simulating a different model than the flyable)? This is similar to the M2000 problem with Razbam's module. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
VincentLaw Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) 5 hardpoints so : 2x AIM-9 + 2 Fuel tanks + bombs in centerline ?I'm pretty sure the "five hardpoints" in that description was only counting the fuselage and underwing pylons. There are two wingtip rails on top of that for a total of 7 stations. This is similar to the M2000 problem with Razbam's module.There was actually a thread opened about that recently. Hopefully the Razbam Mirage will supplement the 2000-5 instead of replacing it. You can find the topic here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=152208 Edited November 10, 2015 by VincentLaw [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dartuil Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 I'm pretty sure the "five hardpoints" in that description was only counting the fuselage and underwing pylons. There are two wingtip rails on top of that for a total of 7 stations. There was actually a thread opened about that recently. Hopefully the Razbam Mirage will supplement the 2000-5 instead of replacing it. You can find the topic here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=152208 So i was on this : http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal11/10501-10600/gal10515-F-5-Benner/00.shtm But U say its this : http://www.arcair.com/Gal12/11601-11700/gal11667-F-5-DeJesus/01.jpg http://www.combataircraft.com/aircraft/FF5E_vl.jpg http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/modernplanes/northrop/northrop_f_5e_tiger_ii-28314.jpg i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
Vampyre Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) So i was on this : http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal11/10501-10600/gal10515-F-5-Benner/00.shtm But U say its this : http://www.arcair.com/Gal12/11601-11700/gal11667-F-5-DeJesus/01.jpg http://www.combataircraft.com/aircraft/FF5E_vl.jpg http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/modernplanes/northrop/northrop_f_5e_tiger_ii-28314.jpg All F-5E/F's have seven weapons stations. The term "hard point" refers to an area of the aircrafts structure specifically strengthened to carry an external load such as weapons or engines. The actual weapons pylons are removable. -Also, I wouldn't use pictures of scale models as reference. Too many modelers do not do the proper research as far as weapons are concerned. Edited November 10, 2015 by Vampyre Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
VincentLaw Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 If you check both the new model currently in game and the wireframe posted on Belsimtek's site, they have seven stations. http://www.belsimtek.com/news/1553/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dartuil Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 U guys are right!! THank you!! :) i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
mattebubben Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 News: F-5E Tiger II. The armament that is planned to develop one would have though that an aircraft with the APQ-159 Radar would be able to carry Atleast the Aim-9L Ive been unable to find the year when the APQ-159 was developed but most of the upgrades to APQ-159 radars from APQ-153 was done in the 80s or later so would not any aircraft upgraded with the APQ-159 have been adopted to the Aim-9L/M at the same time (Aim-9L entering Service in 77 and the M in 1982) But if thats the case and APQ-159 where also limited to Aim-9Ps what Aim-9P variant will we get? There are 5 different Aim-9P variants and they are quite differant preformance wise. The First Variant the Aim-9P1 is Rear only Aspect and is Bases on the Aim-9J series and is equipped with a a laser proximity fuzed warhead for increased Reliability. The Second The Aim-9P2 is only a slight upgrade in that it has a Reduced Smoke motor. The Aim-9P3 has a more advanced warhead and improved guidance but still not being fully all aspect (Seeker probably comparable to the R-60M in what angels it can fire at. Then we have the All Aspect Aim-9Ps. The Aim-9P4 equipped with a All Aspect Seeker based of the Aim-9Ls but being slightly less advanced (with close to the same Seeker Capabillity) And then the Last The Aim-9P5 having improved resistance to flares comparable to the Aim-9M. Also a short Explenation on the Aim-9P. The Aim-9P was a cheaper Aim-9 intended for export (though it was used by the USAAF aswell) Many of the Aim-9P variants where made at the same time instead of the most capable variant replacing the other variants on the production line. One of the reasons for the Aim-9P and the many variants with different Tech levels was that in the same way the russians often exported downgraded equipment the us did not want to give the latest Aim-9 variants to nations they did not fully trust. As such most non nato nations where limited to the Aim-9P or earlier and then it depended on what Variant of the Aim-9P the US would clear for export to you. The First Aim-9Ps predated the Aim-9L slightly but most Aim-9P variants where made in the same time frame as the Aim-9L/M. And a Large Number of Aim-9Ps where Rebuilt B/E/J. So if we are limited to Aim-9Ps i hope we get more then one Aim-9P variant =). Atleast two but 3 would be even better. Maby The Aim-9P1 Aim-9P3 and Aim-9P4 (or P5) At the very least the Aim-9P3 but a All aspect P variant would also be very nice (the P4 or P5 where still less capable then the Aim-9L/M since while they had All Aspect seekers the overall Missile/rocket Engine Preformance was that of Earlier variant giving it slightly less range and worse manuverabillity then the L/M variants.
Paganus Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 I get where you're coming from "mattebubben", but they have to draw the line somewhere. In looking for info on a AGM-65 enabled model I learned the F-5 can carry a vast assortment of stuff depending on the country and upgrades. An array of US weapons, AGM-45 Shrike, canopy mounted laser designation device for LGB's, modern air to air missile, etc. Some countries converted to French weapons and radar. Some countries built new aircraft under license while others (Iran) just made copies and changed the name. The US parts they can't buy they replace with Russian gear. Based on the weapon list, radar and the inclusion of an RWR, we will be getting a middle of the road, not heavily updated version.
Kev2go Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Well they didn't specify what radar it's getting. I hope the f5 can at least get the an/apq 159 3/4. Since it will get only 2 seekers the f5 should at least get the better radar. After all based on the source i posted from 1979/1980 even with the an/apq 159 the f5 did only have up to the aim9p even though aim9L was already around. At least it's not the absolute basic model tho. Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD
ED Team cofcorpse Posted November 11, 2015 ED Team Posted November 11, 2015 For now we only have AIM-9B and -9P, as they are currently modeled in DCS. The main restriction, as I understand it, is the sight. It has program only for limited numbers of Sidewinder variants. I understand that there is a big interest in this question (missile variants and radar), so we will cover it in some of our next updates. 1
Hook47 Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Well with me not knowing too much about the F-5 I am surprised it actually can only carry two A2A missiles, and only heaters at that! Sounds like pound for pound the scales will be tipped towards the MiG 21 in the A2A scenario, As the mig can carry anywhere from 4 to 8(!) A2A missiles, which is rather surprising to me. So I am guessing the only pylon for air to air missiles is this wingtip pylon, correct?
ED Team cofcorpse Posted November 11, 2015 ED Team Posted November 11, 2015 So I am guessing the only pylon for air to air missiles is this wingtip pylon, correct? Yes
dartuil Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 So both cannon have 280 rounds. Can I shoot with one and not shoot with the other? i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
ED Team cofcorpse Posted November 11, 2015 ED Team Posted November 11, 2015 Can I shoot with one and not shoot with the other? Only if you turn off its CB.
dartuil Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Only if you turn off its CB. Ok but what is that? :noexpression: i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
ED Team cofcorpse Posted November 11, 2015 ED Team Posted November 11, 2015 Ok but what is that? :noexpression: Circuit Breaker
Stratos Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 This will be a really fun module. Can't wait guys! I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
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