ZQuickSilverZ Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) I seem to be having a rather interesting issue after the update. Whenever I used reset trim on my force feedback stick it completely shuts off my trimming capability. Then when I use reset trim again it turns it back on. To clarify, if I hit reset trim I cannot trim again at all until I hit reset trim then regular trim works again. The Huey (also a Belsimtek product) does not seem to have this issue. Edited August 23, 2015 by ZQuickSilverZ I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ZQuickSilverZ Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 So not one other person is having this issue. I use a G940. I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
msalama Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 A duplicate key mapping perhaps? The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
zaelu Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 I have a G940 also. I will try to replicate. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
ZQuickSilverZ Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 A duplicate key mapping perhaps? Thank you for the idea but no, I have already checked that. I have a G940 also. I will try to replicate. Thank you. I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
zaelu Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 I had made the test with a quick mission. hot start on parking ramp. on ground and in the air the trim worked normally after trim reset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Rogue Trooper Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Do you get the Clack sound of the trim? I think I may have seen something similar but with the rudders only, have you set the "trim the rudders" option or "no trim the rudder"? Edited August 24, 2015 by Rogue Trooper HP G2 Reverb (Needs upgrading), Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. set to OpenXR, but Open XR tool kit disabled. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), DLSS setting is quality at 1.0. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC... Everything needs upgrading in this system!. Vaicom user and what a superb freebie it is! Virpil Mongoose T50M3 base & Mongoose CM2 Grip (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS collective with counterbalance kit (woof woof). Virpil Apache Grip (OMG). MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound... goodbye VRS.
OnlyforDCS Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Not sure what the problem is. Trim reset, should reset your trim. Which means it should bring your controls back to the neutral position right? Is this not what is going on? Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals.
ZQuickSilverZ Posted August 30, 2015 Author Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) This issue started the last update. The Hip used to trim perfectly just like all the other helo airframes. I have further tested it. I use the same controls to trim and reset trim on all Helo's (Blackshark, Huey, and Hip) and the Hip is the only one affected by this bug. I have triple checked all controls to make sure that nothing is interfering. I am using a combo of G940 flight stick and pedals and X-55 throttle. I use the thumb button to set trim and the pinky (modifier) and thumb button to reset trim on the G940. I notice when I set reset trim to another button (not using a modifier) it works as it should. To clarify the issue I can trim over and over and I can hit reset trim over and over but once I hit reset trim it seems to turn my trim completely off until I hit reset trim again. I have confirmed that this is an issue using any button on the joystick (coupled with a modifier). I cannot use the same button I trim with for trim and reset trim (using a modifier for reset of course). But I can use 2 different buttons and it works as it should. Please help. I have included tracks for both the Ka-50 and the Hip. Notice when I bank then hit trim reset and return to center my trim no longer works when I start banking again in the Hip. When I hit reset trim and return to center the second time my trim starts to work again. Please note the "rapid fire" of the trim was done for demonstration purposes. This is not how I fly or a usual behavior of the trimming controls.HIP TRIM ISSUE.trkKA50 TRIM.trk Edited August 30, 2015 by ZQuickSilverZ I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
EagleFox Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 To clarify the issue I can trim over and over and I can hit reset trim over and over but once I hit reset trim it seems to turn my trim completely off until I hit reset trim again. Drugs are bad son...
ZQuickSilverZ Posted August 30, 2015 Author Posted August 30, 2015 Drugs are bad son... Funny................. I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ZQuickSilverZ Posted September 3, 2015 Author Posted September 3, 2015 So not one other person out there is having this issue? This only started since the last update. Before that the Hip trimmed perfectly. I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Ohgr Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Works fine for me. V/R, Ohgr VCVW-11 "Vapor" USN AE 2001-2015 Heatblur Tomcat Tester
ZQuickSilverZ Posted October 11, 2015 Author Posted October 11, 2015 I regret to say I am still having this issue. No other Helo is giving me this problem and they all share the same control setup for trimming. Belsimtek are you going to help me out with this? Your Huey works fine and this USED to work fine. I am using a Logitech G940 flight stick and rudders with a Saitek X-55 throttle. Belsimtek I would appreciate some feedback and maybe some support. I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ZQuickSilverZ Posted October 19, 2015 Author Posted October 19, 2015 I tried to uninstall and reinstall and I have having the same issue. I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Looney Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Post a track please. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commodore 64 | MOS6510 | VIC-II | SID6581 | DD 1541 | KCS Power Cartridge | 64Kb | 32Kb external | Arcade Turbo
Cibit Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Post a track please. tracks already posted on first page dude:doh:;) i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I use the G940 as well. I did not observe any difference when using trim between versions 1.2.xx and 1.5 beta. But after i changed the curves of the roll and pitch axis from 10 saturation to 20 curvature, force trim no longer works. Needs some more testing... Happy Flying! :pilotfly:
ZQuickSilverZ Posted October 22, 2015 Author Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) This issue started the last update. The Hip used to trim perfectly just like all the other helo airframes. I have further tested it. I use the same controls to trim and reset trim on all Helo's (Blackshark, Huey, and Hip) and the Hip is the only one affected by this bug. I have triple checked all controls to make sure that nothing is interfering. I am using a combo of G940 flight stick and pedals and X-55 throttle. I use the thumb button to set trim and the pinky (modifier) and thumb button to reset trim on the G940. I notice when I set reset trim to another button (not using a modifier) it works as it should. To clarify the issue I can trim over and over and I can hit reset trim over and over but once I hit reset trim it seems to turn my trim completely off until I hit reset trim again. I have confirmed that this is an issue using any button on the joystick (coupled with a modifier). I cannot use the same button I trim with for trim and reset trim (using a modifier for reset of course). But I can use 2 different buttons and it works as it should. Please help. I have included tracks for both the Ka-50 and the Hip. Notice when I bank then hit trim reset and return to center my trim no longer works when I start banking again in the Hip. When I hit reset trim and return to center the second time my trim starts to work again. Please note the "rapid fire" of the trim was done for demonstration purposes. This is not how I fly or a usual behavior of the trimming controls. Platypus can you use the thumb button for trim and the pinky and thumb button for reset trim just to test it. Remember this issue only affects the Mi8. I can use two different buttons and it works just fine but I cannot use the same button with a modifier. By the way not only does it affect the helicopter in game....... it affects the screen where you set controls as well. If you hit reset trim the control settings page will not register the trim button until you hit reset trim again. I am sorry to see you are having trim issues but I am happy to see another say there IS a trim issue. Maybe now some progress will be made on this bug. All other choppers work fine. Looney watch the video and tell me what you think. Please note I am NOT on 1.5. Edited October 22, 2015 by ZQuickSilverZ I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Flagrum Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Sounds as if you have defined your modifier key not as "modifier" but as "switch" (i.e. right hand side of the modifier dialog). That way the modifier function remains active until you press that key again - so if you used your modifier key once together with your trim button, you actually do a "reset trim" again if you just press the "trim" button alone now ... as the modifier function is still active.
ZQuickSilverZ Posted October 22, 2015 Author Posted October 22, 2015 Sounds as if you have defined your modifier key not as "modifier" but as "switch" (i.e. right hand side of the modifier dialog). That way the modifier function remains active until you press that key again - so if you used your modifier key once together with your trim button, you actually do a "reset trim" again if you just press the "trim" button alone now ... as the modifier function is still active. I was about to tell you thanks for the advice but all my helos were set up the same way. Then I decided to go check and make sure........... Turns out the bug was the person at the flight controls. Thank you for helping me fix this issue. I will not make THAT mistake again.......... 1 I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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