23rd_SATAN Posted June 24, 2006 Posted June 24, 2006 Are there benefits to make it worth upgrading? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Nate Dogg Posted June 25, 2006 Posted June 25, 2006 not if your already running a 939 socket. Basically all am2 does is give you the opertunity to use ddr2 ram and i think the am2 cpu's use less power, but in terms of preformance there is little to no difference between a 939 and am2 Go to http://www.anantech.com for a good review. cheers
Cobra360 Posted June 25, 2006 Posted June 25, 2006 Yep the prices in 939 socket have droppprd by 50% where I live, this is great. But AM2 is the way to go upgrade now and you have lots of future upgrade poetntial.
23rd_SATAN Posted June 25, 2006 Author Posted June 25, 2006 not if your already running a 939 socket. Basically all am2 does is give you the opertunity to use ddr2 ram and i think the am2 cpu's use less power, but in terms of preformance there is little to no difference between a 939 and am2 Go to www.anantech.com for a good review. cheers You may want to check that link out... this is where it redirects me. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted June 25, 2006 Posted June 25, 2006 Are there benefits to make it worth upgrading?Well, at this time AMD is only talking about Anti Hyper Threading (AHT) working on AM2's. I hope that will not be the case .... Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
S77th-Paralyzer Posted June 25, 2006 Posted June 25, 2006 You may want to check that link out... this is where it redirects me. The correct link is: http://www.anandtech.com Here is the direct link for the review. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2762 1
23rd_SATAN Posted June 25, 2006 Author Posted June 25, 2006 Well, at this time AMD is only talking about Anti Hyper Threading (AHT) working on AM2's. I hope that will not be the case .... Why is that bad, it is supposed to increase performance on games not optimized for dualcore. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
23rd_SATAN Posted June 25, 2006 Author Posted June 25, 2006 The correct link is: www.anandtech.com Here is the direct link for the review. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2762 Thank you. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted June 25, 2006 Posted June 25, 2006 There are rumours that AMD will introduce special capabilities on the AM2 CPU's coupled with new drivers enabling them to use the 2 CPU's on any aplication, even on LOMAC. The question that remains to be seen is how much of both CPU power will be spent solely to coordinate the calculations split and shared between them. You may not yeld 100% perfomance improvment but more likely 30-40%. .
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted June 25, 2006 Posted June 25, 2006 Why is that bad, it is supposed to increase performance on games not optimized for dualcore.You misunderstood the point I tried to make. You are right saying that AHT will accelerate programs that are not specifically written for dual core processors. My point is, the way AMD is talking right now, that AHT feature will NOT work on socket 939 dual core processors. Although it will work on AM2 processors. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
23rd_SATAN Posted June 25, 2006 Author Posted June 25, 2006 There are rumours that AMD will introduce special capabilities on the AM2 CPU's coupled with new drivers enabling them to use the 2 CPU's on any aplication, even on LOMAC. The question that remains to be seen is how much of both CPU power will be spent solely to coordinate the calculations split and shared between them. You may not yeld 100% perfomance improvment but more likely 30-40%. A 30%-40% increase in performance in lomac would be one hell of a nice increase, dont you think? :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
23rd_SATAN Posted June 25, 2006 Author Posted June 25, 2006 You misunderstood the point I tried to make. You are right saying that AHT will accelerate programs that are not specifically written for dual core processors. My point is, the way AMD is talking right now, that AHT feature will NOT work on socket 939 dual core processors. Although it will work on AM2 processors. AH, I see. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
23rd_SATAN Posted June 25, 2006 Author Posted June 25, 2006 Ok, lets put AM2 in the context of the new ATI X3200 Crossfire AM2 with its new Southbridge SB600. Will that make a difference? And of course these gaming benchmarks. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Dudikoff Posted June 25, 2006 Posted June 25, 2006 What difference? What system do you have now? If you're buying a whole new system, you might not notice a difference between 939 and AM2 systems now, but any future CPU (K8L?) will be made for AM2 only. I made a mistake of buying a 939 platform recently, but for only a little more could have gone with AM2. Plus the feature Pilotasso mentioned.. supposedly, it's only implemented in AM2 versions and will be enabled when AMD releases a new CPU driver. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
23rd_SATAN Posted June 25, 2006 Author Posted June 25, 2006 Right now I have an almost identical system to the one I am considering, but without AM2. I have an FX60, ATI X3200 Crossfire (without am2) and 2 X1900XTX's with 2 gigs of ram. The new X3200 mobo is supposed to have a better Southbridge that works better than the one on my board, plus it is AM2 compatible and DDR2 compatible. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Nate Dogg Posted June 26, 2006 Posted June 26, 2006 You may want to check that link out... this is where it redirects me. my bad.
23rd_SATAN Posted June 26, 2006 Author Posted June 26, 2006 my bad. no big deal, just thought I should point it out, just incase something was up. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
23rd_SATAN Posted June 27, 2006 Author Posted June 27, 2006 SO, if AMD decides to go ahead with their plans to enable both cores to run games that dont take advantage of both cores, I think I will upgrade. But not before. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mustang Posted June 27, 2006 Posted June 27, 2006 uh-oh lol http://www.tweaktown.com/news/5891/is_intel_also_in_on_reverse_hyper_threading/index.html
23rd_SATAN Posted June 28, 2006 Author Posted June 28, 2006 uh-oh lol http://www.tweaktown.com/news/5891/is_intel_also_in_on_reverse_hyper_threading/index.html If thats all you got, I dont think AMD has anything to worry about. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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