Sierra99 Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 Good Morning! While playing with the Mission Editor and Google Earth I discovered discrepancies with Parking Shelter placement, Parking Spot center-lines and Object placement verses photos of Nellis on Google Earth. 1.) The shelters on the South end of the ramp are misplaced in relation to the flight line vehicle lane as follows: Spots 112 -114 ⦁ Shelter is 20 - 30 feet North East from what looks to be correct. ⦁ Parking Spots are correctly centered under or Inline with shelter and as such, equally misplaced North East of correct position. ⦁ Client Aircraft are correctly oriented on spots for Taxi to South West. Spots 119 -125 - ⦁ Shelter is approximately 30-40 feet South West from what looks to be correct. ⦁ Parking spots are NOT correctly centered on shelter. (40-50 feet misplaced to the South West) ⦁ Client Aircraft are NOT correctly oriented on spots. Aircraft should Taxi to North East Spots 126 -132 - ⦁ Shelter is approximately 40 feet South West from what looks to be correct. ⦁ Parking spots are NOT correctly centered on shelter. (40-60 feet misplaced to the South West) ⦁ Client Aircraft are correctly oriented on spots. Aircraft should Taxi to South West Spots 133-139 - ⦁ Shelter is approximately 30-35 feet South West from what looks to be correct. ⦁ Parking spots are NOT correctly centered on shelter. (40-50 feet misplaced to the South West) ⦁ Client Aircraft are NOT correctly oriented on spots. Aircraft shold Taxi to North East Spots 140-146 - ⦁ Shelter is approximately 10-15 feet North East from what looks to be correct. ⦁ Parking Spots are NOT correctly centered under or inline with shelter (20-25 feet misplaced to the South West) ⦁ Client Aircraft are correctly oriented on spots. Aircraft shold Taxi to South West The forward edge of the shelters should be in line or almost in line with the Flightline vehicle lane passing in front of it. Also the shelters are NOT equally spaced. 2.) Parking Spots C-01 thru C-12 appear to be "Backwards". These spots are listed as "Live Ordanance Loading Area" on the KLSV Airfield Diagram. All of the pictures I can find show aircraft parked on these spots pointing toward an earthern berm directly to the East... Not toward the base. (Which only makes sense.) Client Aircraft placed on these spots spawn pointing toward base. Obviously If you know for fact that aircraft can be positioned either direction on these spots please disregard.) Sierra99 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970.
Eight Ball Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) I think you shouldn't waste too much time with this. In one video Wags clearly said their NTTR wouldn't be an exact copy of the NTTR but it was close enough and they were happy with it ;) EDIT : right here, @ 4:00 Edited December 5, 2015 by Eight Ball Find The Links To All My Mods And Liveries Here (in the gallery)
Sierra99 Posted December 5, 2015 Author Posted December 5, 2015 I think you shouldn't waste too much time with this. In one video Wags clearly said their NTTR wouldn't be an exact copy of the NTTR but it was close enough and they were happy with it ;) Since I've already taken the time to make the post, Your statement about "wasting time with this" is moot. I also believe their comments about "Not being an exact copy, But close enough and they were happy with it" was directed at the various fiddly bits and details left completely OUT of the map verses details they choose to include but were placed incorrectly. Since this is indeed an ALPHA release and they are still working on the product, I'm gonna go ahead and pass along my findings and leave it up to the people at ED to decide if they are happy with it or not...who knows. While changing it might require an entire rewrite of the EDGE code and another 5 years in Alpha before its fixed...it just MIGHT just be something as simple as a few point and clicks... I think I'll go ahead and let them decide...Thanks [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970.
Eight Ball Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 sure, it was nothing personal. Just wanted to let you know that if you had planned to do this for each airport you might be wasting your time. I, personally, have no objection against it. Find The Links To All My Mods And Liveries Here (in the gallery)
Snoopy Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 An error is an error, if ED chooses to not fix it that's their choice but i think we should report things that are incorrect. Good post Sierra99 v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
crazyeddie Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 Tend to agree with Sierra. The taxi ways, parking spots, covers and and walkways should be correctly aligned, it all looks wrong otherwise. No big deal I agree but Nellis is going to be the airbase used most often and I would think a bit more time spent fixing that would be time well spent, if it is easy enough to do. If not, I can live with it. 1
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SDsc0rch Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 i, for one, applaud sierra99 thank you! you're doing yoeman's work : ) (but isn't that how it is online... someone goes to all the effort to improve something and someone's always gotta come in and sh*t on it!) i7-4790K | Asus Sabertooth Z97 MkI | 16Gb DDR3 | EVGA GTX 980 | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | Panasonic TC-58AX800U [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
funkstardeluxe Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 as for me I ended up with this: http://forums.eagle.ru/picture.php?albumid=1131&pictureid=7479 you can't really see but planes are on top of shelters...
Phantom453 Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 I agree with the OP & Snoopy. We want this to be the best it can be. In addition to them not being correctly placed, I have found that they some are also not correctly aligned with the respective aircraft taxi line. Therefore when you taxi under them it results in a wing strike on the shelter support poles because the taxi line is too far to the left or right, rather than in the centre. I noticed this at Nellis. 1
Sierra99 Posted December 17, 2015 Author Posted December 17, 2015 as for me I ended up with this: http://forums.eagle.ru/picture.php?albumid=1131&pictureid=7479 you can't really see but planes are on top of shelters... I see 2 issues with that parking space... Seeing the crew chief when taxing out and getting to the crew bus [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970.
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