Air refueling

[Cobra]

Is air refueling possible in the beta?

[jojo]

It doesn't transfer fuel yet...

[Zeus67]

There is a bug that we haven't found that prevents fuel from being transferred.

[Hook47]

There is a bug that we haven't found that prevents fuel from being transferred.

 

Any ETA on the fix Is it on EDs end or Razbams?

[Zeus67]

Any ETA on the fix Is it on EDs end or Razbams?

 

We don't know where the bug is. So we are working with ED on this one. And then Christmas came and the rest you know.

[Revelation]

You can still practice making contact and holding steady. It's a challenge since the aircraft wants to auto-adjust the trim to where you point the nose. At least in my limited experience.

 

This means you have to be on top of your game when you make minor adjustments.

[Arctic]

In the manual on page 28 is a orange Light "RVT VOL" described that shows when/if the Aerial Refueling Switch is turned on. There is not described where this Button is located and it seems to lit up when the Battery is not connected.

 

We tested it a few minutes ago in the 2.0 and like the others said, the Tanker will tell you "connected...disconnected...connected...".

 

Refueling seems to be more easy than with the F15 or A10C (but still hard) and also pretty funny with the basket :)

 

And stay calm, its an beta and we get to fly this beauty finally...! We will be able to refuel soon enough (at least i hope so...) :)

 

 

Merry Christmas ;)

[XeNoise]

You can still practice making contact and holding steady. It's a challenge since the aircraft wants to auto-adjust the trim to where you point the nose. At least in my limited experience.

 

This means you have to be on top of your game when you make minor adjustments.

That's true, on the other hand i found a really simpatic switch on the right dashboard which is called "TUCAN" or something like that. It's switch which can be rotated between x10 and x19, it changes the sensibility of fly by wire. Plus you can change the fbw mode with the switch nearby. :joystick:

[Rlaxoxo]

That's true, on the other hand i found a really simpatic switch on the right dashboard which is called "TUCAN" or something like that. It's switch which can be rotated between x10 and x19, it changes the sensibility of fly by wire. Plus you can change the fbw mode with the switch nearby. :joystick:

 

Bro .. that's TACAN it's a primitive way of looking for tankers gives you range and bearing ....

[SimFreak]

Sorry for noob question, but how do I get tanker to extend bucket?

[nomdeplume]

Sorry for noob question, but how do I get tanker to extend bucket?

 

Contact it and ask for pre-contact, then when you're in position ask for contact, and it'll deploy.

 

I think there's a bug with the radios here: I tried calling the tanker again and again with no response, and only after I switched to the auxiliary radio and back to the main radio and then called again did I get a response. I've repeated this a few times. Maybe the radio isn't being properly initialised at the start of the mission?

 

I've attached a sample mission with a S-3B tanker and the player in the air a few miles behind, just to save anyone else the trouble. Brief instructions included in the briefing.

M2000C-refueling.miz

[SimFreak]

Thanks!

[wolle]

Refueling seems to be more easy than with the F15 or A10C (but still hard) and also pretty funny with the basket :)

 

Easier than the A10? Not for me. I can refuel in the A10C OK, but in the M-2000 it seems to be impossible. Main problem is that the airplane holds the correction: if you push the stick right momentarily, it banks the aircraft and keeps that bank angle indefinitely going further and further right, making small corrections near impossible. In the A10 you push the stick right momentarily, it banks right momentarily, then straightens itself out, resulting in a small path correction.

 

Any tips?

[Arctic]

Yeah, ok, it seemed easyer for me but we did formation flight before wich was a good training. The only problem for me with the Mirage is the huge engine... The smallest throttle-increase and i end up meters closer to the tanker (or formation-buddy) and not 50% more throttle for half a minute only to be a few centimeters closer like in the a10... :D

Edited December 27, 2015 by Arctic

[JorgeIII]

Uff, I found it to be very difficult. Maybe FBW and the lack of curves in my joystick profile have something to do with it.

 

I the A-10C I can usually refuel the internal tanks to full without disconnecting (at least if the tanker is not banking). But I use a curve from 15 to 24 in my TMW Hotas.

 

Anyways, the challenge is very well welcome.

Im thinking of a mission that will make my squadron mates sweat next weak!

[Evilducky]

All I want to say is good luck with this. I played around with a bunch of different things that could be causing this for hours the other night to no avail. It's either going to come down to a model issue or the game still believes that this is an SU-27 plane which doesn't have the air refueling capabilities in DCS.

[104th_Maverick]

Video demo of AAR.

 

Watch out, its very tricky!

 

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All I want to say is good luck with this. I played around with a bunch of different things that could be causing this for hours the other night to no avail.

 

What part are you struggling with?

Edited December 29, 2015 by [Maverick]

[iborg]

Easier than the A10? Not for me. I can refuel in the A10C OK, but in the M-2000 it seems to be impossible. Main problem is that the airplane holds the correction: if you push the stick right momentarily, it banks the aircraft and keeps that bank angle indefinitely going further and further right, making small corrections near impossible. In the A10 you push the stick right momentarily, it banks right momentarily, then straightens itself out, resulting in a small path correction.

 

Any tips?

 

 

I haven't tried refueling yet, but I'm thinking maybe using autopilot with trim commands for small adjustments ?

[The_Pharoah]

I wanted to try this on the 104th server but I couldn't figure out how to tune the TACAN or UHF radios. I'm a newbie at this so I'm looking for some help. eg. on the 104th server, the Mirage tanker was on channel 252 or something - how and where do I tune this? is there a tutorial on how to do this for the Mirage?

[nomdeplume]

I wanted to try this on the 104th server but I couldn't figure out how to tune the TACAN or UHF radios. I'm a newbie at this so I'm looking for some help. eg. on the 104th server, the Mirage tanker was on channel 252 or something - how and where do I tune this? is there a tutorial on how to do this for the Mirage?

 

I wrote way too much about the radios in this post here, might help you.

[Evilducky]

;2620654']Video demo of AAR.

 

Watch out, its very tricky!

 

 

What part are you struggling with?

 

Oh I'm not struggling with the actual refueling part. I was for fun trying to look into what was causing the actual bug of it not refueling. A challeng for fun really.

[The_Pharoah]

I wrote way too much about the radios in this post here, might help you.

 

thanks mate, I will have a read

[Voodooflies]

Refueling seems to be more easy than with the F15 or A10C (but still hard) and also pretty funny with the basket :)

 

I rather refueling the A10C and the F15C, I found those easier to refuel than the M2000C.

[JorgeIII]

Thanks Maverik, I tried again and did it much better.

 

Indeed the Mirage is very sensitive but VERY stable if you fly straight. I was trying before with a banking tanker and was very diffult to even connect, let alone keep connected for a few minutes. Did you try that?

I tried now with the tanker flying straight and its much, much easier. But it needs practice.

I hope Razbam implement fuel transfer for aire refueling soon.

 

;2620654']Video demo of AAR.

 

Watch out, its very tricky!

 

 

 

 

 

What part are you struggling with?

[Yurgon]

;2620654']Video demo of AAR. [...]

 

Dammit, stop making it look so easy! :D