PondLife Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 Ground Avoidance Mode button on HOTAS Does anyone know what this button does? I've looked in the manual and can find no mention of it in the forums...
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GregP Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 Well, aim your Mirage at the ground, hold down the button, and see what happens.
CrimsonGhost Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 I was thinking it may be a terrain following mode for low level penetration missions, but like everyone else, I cannot find any references in the manual. If it is, this could be a neat feature. i7-7700K @ 5.2Ghz SLI 1080Ti 64GB GSkill Trident Z RGB 4133 Asus Maximus IX Extreme Custom Water Cooling Loop TM Warthog/ MFG Crosswind
Somnus Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Was this ever figured out? I'm looking too. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Kayos Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 I don't think it will work until DCS adds the ground radar into the game. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Darkbrotherhood7 Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 A2G Radar is not available in DCS yet. Mission: "To intercept and destroy aircraft and airborne missiles in all weather conditions in order to establish and maintain air superiority in a designated area. To deliver air-to-ground ordnance on time in any weather condition. And to provide tactical reconaissance imagery" - F-14 Tomcat Roll Call [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Azrayen Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 I was thinking it may be a terrain following mode for low level penetration missions, but like everyone else, I cannot find any references in the manual. If it is, this could be a neat feature. Not on the M-2000C. TFR is on the N and D variants.
ZHeN Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Not on the M-2000C. TFR is on the N and D variants. but there's a button for it in the cockpit of 2000C ... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Gliptal Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 The PIP has been reworked completely internally, and the ground avoidance mode has thus been dropped for the time being: see http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=167441
jojo Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) but there's a button for it in the cockpit of 2000C ... Ground avoidance is more basic than terrain following. You can find ground avoidance in VRS Super Hornet for FSX. Back in the time Mirage III or F-104/ F-105 already had it. It just allow you to avoid ground above a safety margin. Terrain following allow to stay at a specified height above the ground with more "aggressive" flight profile. It's something F-16 or F-15E can do with LANTIRN system, or Mirage 2000D/ N with Antilope V radar. M-2000C should have terrain avoidance, but DCS AG radar functionality is not ready yet it seems. However I have good hope to see it on M-2000C one day, since its a functionality it shares with Hornet developed by ED. Edited June 16, 2016 by jojo Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
ZHeN Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 so wait. If you're saying ground avoidance is less sofisticated than terrain following like F-111/F-15/F-16 with lantirns, does this thing even need radar's A-G functionality at all ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Dahlbeck Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Do I get it correctly, that the ground avoidance is simply like a "Bitching Betty" pull up-message or the the A-10 C GCAS "Break X"?
ZHeN Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 I'm pretty sure it's not just a message, I think it literally pulls nose up [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
jojo Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) so wait. If you're saying ground avoidance is less sofisticated than terrain following like F-111/F-15/F-16 with lantirns, does this thing even need radar's A-G functionality at all ? In terrain avoidance you use the radar to watch the ground in front of the aircraft. So yes you use AG radar, and you have to manually fly the aircraft. On contrary on Mirage 2000D/ N the radar can perform automatic terrain following while following waypoints. Edited June 17, 2016 by jojo Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
ZHeN Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 isn't radio altimeter enough for this ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
jojo Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Rad Alt give you the height just below the aircraft. When you're flying at 500kt/ 250m/s you need more anticipation or you may crash into an hill. Rad Alt terrain following is only good for somehow flat terrain. Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
Zee Pet Posted June 18, 2016 Posted June 18, 2016 So if it is implemented, will the aircraft automatically pull itself up, or will it just give you the same display when you go below the set radalt/audible response? ||i5-9600k||MSI GTX1070Ti Duke||16GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaws V||Gigabyte Aorus B360||X56||
flashben Posted June 18, 2016 Posted June 18, 2016 Doesn't ground avoidance mode, map terrain infront in green,yellow and red for height on the radar display?
Zeus67 Posted June 18, 2016 Posted June 18, 2016 Doesn't ground avoidance mode, map terrain infront in green,yellow and red for height on the radar display? Yes. All terrain below your aircraft is black. Terrain at your level and up to 200 feet above your level is yellow. Terrain above your level + 200 is red. But of course this feature needs a working AG radar with beam mapping. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Manuel_108 Posted June 18, 2016 Posted June 18, 2016 ^ Cool! I hope you guys will soon have the technology to code it successfully.
Gliptal Posted June 18, 2016 Posted June 18, 2016 Provided they have a function to get the spatial position of the aircraft and one to get the height of a given ground point, they could fake it.
Zee Pet Posted June 18, 2016 Posted June 18, 2016 Yes. All terrain below your aircraft is black. Terrain at your level and up to 200 feet above your level is yellow. Terrain above your level + 200 is red. But of course this feature needs a working AG radar with beam mapping. But we wont get that because the 2000C doesn't have it right? ||i5-9600k||MSI GTX1070Ti Duke||16GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaws V||Gigabyte Aorus B360||X56||
Darkbrotherhood7 Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 But we wont get that because the 2000C doesn't have it right? No, the RDI(M2000C radar), has simple A2G functions such as ground avoidance and ground mapping, if this will be available in DCS, I don't know, but the M2000C has those capabilities. Mission: "To intercept and destroy aircraft and airborne missiles in all weather conditions in order to establish and maintain air superiority in a designated area. To deliver air-to-ground ordnance on time in any weather condition. And to provide tactical reconaissance imagery" - F-14 Tomcat Roll Call [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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