exhausted Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 You're quite right. The Brits worked along side the USMC in a few places and had a few of their exchange guys on the squadrons. Perhaps you know them, or were one of them, you seem well informed. Brit were also night attack. Personally I'd like the GR.7 as it's something which did a sterling job in the FRY, Iraq and Afghanistan despite it's differences. Small scope doesn't have to be boring, the Brit Harrier will bring a lot to the party. DCS unfortunately doesn't seem to model the kind of joint ops set up you refer to so perhaps the UK Harrier will be good enough. I'm just glad someone is finally going to bring a fly able Harrier to DCS. At least we won't have to simulate bits dropping off the UK aircraft? Looks like another Harrier fan!! Without doubt, a GR.7 or 9 would add something that is sort of missing... Now sure what you meant by the "bits dropping off the UK aircraft" though. :pilotfly:
Aginor Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 Well, obviously RAZBAM should do the one they have more info for, I want it to be accurate. That being said, my personal choice would be the GR7/9 I think, because of more stuff to carry. But it is a really tough choice, the AV-8B has a gun and is a carrier plane.... Still voted British. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
Overvolt Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 Guys personally I am not a experte in military aviation, so let me ask, what are the main differences of these two aircraft Intel i7 7700K | ASUS MAXIMUN IX Hero | GSkill RBG 3000mhz 32G(4x8G) | MSI Trio 1080ti | 1x M.2 SSD Samsung 960PRO 512G | 1 x WesterDigital 4T | Corsair AX-850W | Monitor Alienware 34" aw3418dw | Oblisidian 800D |CORSAIR H80 | Teclado Logitech G15 |Mouse Razer DeathAdder Elite | Trackir 5 + Clip pro | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | Pedal MFG Crosswind
Aginor Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 Guys personally I am not a experte in military aviation, so let me ask, what are the main differences of these two aircraft Vampyre wrote a bit about it here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2631578&postcount=58 DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
Johnny Dioxin Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Holbeach, did ya know you are less than 10 miles away from me? We have the dubious honour of being close to a Harrier crash site! Was less than a mile from my previous residence. Used to overfly my house at 250ft going out to the ranges (along with those bloody noisy F-15's!), which is where that one came down. (edit: it was 1999 and a GR.7 - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/390324.stm ) Don't remember the year - late '90's I think. In any case - firstly, not everyone wants naval ops (though I don't mind either way) and secondly the guy who wants the FA2 - can't see it happening, as that was based on the original Harrier (let's call it the Harrier I) and they are modelling the Harrier II, which is markedly different. 'Scuse the pun. :) Edited January 8, 2016 by Brixmis Rig: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; Pimax Crystal Light I'm learning to fly - but I ain't got wings With my head in VR - it's the next best thing!
Frostie Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 secondly the guy who wants the FA2 - can't see it happening, as that was based on the original Harrier (let's call it the Harrier I) and they are modelling the Harrier II, which is markedly different. 'Scuse the pun. :) :D Irrelevant imo, they need to make it so based on the being sexier factor, with this in mind all other factors become moot. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
Harry.R Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 Holbeach, did ya know you are less than 10 miles away from me? We have the dubious honour of being close to a Harrier crash site! Was less than a mile from my previous residence. Used to overfly my house at 250ft going out to the ranges (along with those bloody noisy F-15's!), which is where that one came down. (edit: it was 1999 and a GR.7 - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/390324.stm ) Don't remember the year - late '90's I think. In any case - firstly, not everyone wants naval ops (though I don't mind either way) and secondly the guy who wants the FA2 - can't see it happening, as that was based on the original Harrier (let's call it the Harrier I) and they are modelling the Harrier II, which is markedly different. 'Scuse the pun. :) Brixmis, we have something in common too, but it has more to do with what crashed! :thumbup:
Prowler111 Posted January 8, 2016 Author Posted January 8, 2016 In any case - firstly, not everyone wants naval ops (though I don't mind either way) and secondly the guy who wants the FA2 - can't see it happening, as that was based on the original Harrier (let's call it the Harrier I) and they are modelling the Harrier II, which is markedly different. 'Scuse the pun. :) Well to be honest..once we master the VTOL "tech" into DCS, I don´t see why not..it wont happen immediately, that´s for sure, but eventually will.. Best regards Prowler
Harry.R Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 Mmm..the Sea Jet. It would be class, and the earlier (less ugly) version would open up a new map (FI), then we'd need a GR.3..and Mirage 3, Canberra, SkyHawk, Pucara... Jet Thunder on steroids!
Holbeach Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Holbeach, did ya know you are less than 10 miles away from me? We have the dubious honour of being close to a Harrier crash site! Was less than a mile from my previous residence. Used to overfly my house at 250ft going out to the ranges (along with those bloody noisy F-15's!), which is where that one came down. (edit: it was 1999 and a GR.7 - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/390324.stm ) Don't remember the year - late '90's I think. Brixmis Living in in an area with a large concentration of military airfields and weapon ranges as we do, with dogfights between F-15s, Typhoons, etc. overhead on a daily basis , there's bound to be the odd prang occasionally . If I remember rightly a Harrier shot itself down with a ricochet on Holbeach range. RazBam has stated the GR7/9 will be the Harrier produced and it will take about a year. This will be something worth waiting for. .. Edited January 9, 2016 by Holbeach ASUS 2600K 3.8. P8Z68-V. ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080Ti, RAM 16gb Corsair. M2 NVME 2gb. 2 SSD. 3 HDD. 1 kW ps. X-52. Saitek pedals. ..
Hummingbird Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 If you want to ground pound, you gotta have a gun! That's my motto :P
Holbeach Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 If you want to ground pound, you gotta have a gun! That's my motto :P The real RAF Harrier managed to do that and shoot down supersonic aircraft. ---- Without a gun. .. ASUS 2600K 3.8. P8Z68-V. ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080Ti, RAM 16gb Corsair. M2 NVME 2gb. 2 SSD. 3 HDD. 1 kW ps. X-52. Saitek pedals. ..
thaisocom Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 Can I not choose only one? I want both!!! :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CM HAF-X | Corsair HX1000i | ASUS P8P67Pro | Intel Core i7 2600 @ 4.0GHz | Corsair CWCH70 | G.Skill 8GB DDR3 1600MHz | ASUS GeForce GTX 970 4GB | Plextor M5Pro 256GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB * 2 RAID 0 | WD Caviar Green 2TB | Windows 10 Professional X64 | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedal
Harry.R Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 The real RAF Harrier managed to do that and shoot down supersonic aircraft. ---- Without a gun. .. What is the real RAF Harrier without a gun that shot down a supersonic aircraft? ;) The best bomber in the airforce, but only if you judge it on the result of the 'Batemans' bombing contest..we would put a bid on a pilot to win, and normally a Harrier pilot would win. One man one fan...
Jarlerus Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 I voted AV-8B, only 'cus it's a USMC aircraft. ^^ Jarl at YouTube DCS Service Span and Wishlist Spreadsheet Forum post for discussion of above spreadsheet Retro Electro Playlist on Spotify
White Eagle Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Lived near RAF Cottesmore so got to be the GR7/9.
Hook47 Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Gr9 seems to be, by far, the better strike aircraft so that is where my vote went!
joey45 Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 The AV8 is gaining... Maybe getting Lustys blueprints was too soon. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Vampyre Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 The AV8 is gaining... Maybe getting Lustys blueprints was too soon. They have actually been very close the entire time... perhaps they should just do both.:thumbup: Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
joey45 Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 They have actually been very close the entire time... perhaps they should just do both.:thumbup: I thought they were gonna do both... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Vampyre Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 I thought they were gonna do both... My understanding is that the B(NA) or GR7/9 from this poll will be one or the other. RAZBAM have not made a statement as to the possibility of doing both the B(NA) and GR7/9. With no official statement I have to make the assumption that it is one or the other as far as the non-radar versions are concerned. They, from what Zeus was saying in the other Harrier thread, will do the B+ when ED sorts out the ground radar. From the other Harrier thread. These are the radar less variants. No radar version will be available until ED incorporates Air-to-Ground radar targeting/mapping capability to DCS. Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
joey45 Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 So. Have the GR9 as the non radar version and the yankie one as the radar version.... no point having both yankie versions in. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
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