lipas70 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Hello. What happened with the effectiveness of missile 530 after the last update? Previously, you could successfully launch a rocket if you just came in dead zone, and now despite virtually no authorization fails to hit the target that although some weapons (foil, maneuvers). The necessary distance to fire is ridiculously low. I tested on a mission Mirage vs MiG 21. The effectiveness of Magic 2 improved, but 530 are now unusable. W10 64bit, i9 9900K, 64GB RAM, GTX 1070Ti, 27" FullHD monitor
Plushanubka Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Is it even possible? 530 had aerodynamic model of a brick even before patch.
Bidartarra Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Sadly that's the only reason I'm not using the Mirage anymore. It's even more of a shame as it's not Razbams fault apparently.
lipas70 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Posted February 8, 2016 Currently MiG-21 dominates the Mirage in virtually any situation. Much faster can detect a Mirage on the radar when the Mirages radar is quite blind. I also noticed that the RWR also does not detect a threat as it was before. Something was completely screwed up. It is hoped that it will be somehow corrected. W10 64bit, i9 9900K, 64GB RAM, GTX 1070Ti, 27" FullHD monitor
Rlaxoxo Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Currently MiG-21 dominates the Mirage in virtually any situation. Much faster can detect a Mirage on the radar when the Mirages radar is quite blind. I also noticed that the RWR also does not detect a threat as it was before. Something was completely screwed up. It is hoped that it will be somehow corrected. You on about 2.0 or 1.5? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
lipas70 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Posted February 8, 2016 Sure 2.0.1 - the last update! W10 64bit, i9 9900K, 64GB RAM, GTX 1070Ti, 27" FullHD monitor
Rlaxoxo Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 hmm I was fighting up agaist F-15's and dominating them (CQC) I don't see how it's "worse" now then before vs Mig-21 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
Pikey Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Whilst we are on 530 war stories, I had a tanker in 2nm rear aspect lock, centered int he circle, fired and the tanker executed a bunt and the 530 flew over its head. I'll make a confession, i'm not a real fighter pilot... But seriously? The French spent millions on a weapon that can't hit an airliner from 2 miles because it can out manouver in a nose forward dive? I cannot believe that and I will not believe that is likely, that a Super power would take a weapon to war that can't hit an airliner in perfect conditions. Hashtag #fixthe530 Every time one of these weapons is fired, somewhere, a little puppy is kicked. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
lipas70 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Posted February 8, 2016 Rlaxoxo. Can you share a track or movie ? Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Before the update I had no such problems. W10 64bit, i9 9900K, 64GB RAM, GTX 1070Ti, 27" FullHD monitor
Manuel_108 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Whilst we are on 530 war stories, I had a tanker in 2nm rear aspect lock, centered int he circle, fired and the tanker executed a bunt and the 530 flew over its head. I'll make a confession, i'm not a real fighter pilot... But seriously? The French spent millions on a weapon that can't hit an airliner from 2 miles because it can out manouver in a nose forward dive? I cannot believe that and I will not believe that is likely, that a Super power would take a weapon to war that can't hit an airliner in perfect conditions. Hashtag #fixthe530 Every time one of these weapons is fired, somewhere, a little puppy is kicked. Lol tried the same thing. I wanted to down a Yak with the 530 and it just flew over its head, even though the Yak just cruising.
whaaw Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Sadly that's the only reason I'm not using the Mirage anymore. It's even more of a shame as it's not Razbams fault apparently. yeah I can understand you very well, but strap on some mantra pods and snake eays and the mirage make a lot of fun :-) SFMBE
castor Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 ....530 had aerodynamic model of a brick even before patch. after upgrade to 2.0.1 LOL [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlcnZWaJmpo[/ame] 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System specs: CPU: i7-9700K@ 5.0 GHz | RAM: 32 GB | GPU: RTX 2080 Super | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | CH Products Pro Pedals |HP REverb
Plushanubka Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 And after patch it has aerodynamic model of BRICK WALL :megalol: 1
TomCatMucDe Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 I tried the Agressor Instant Action and i had 100% kills with the 530D. I am not saying they improved, but I have the impression that they didn't get worse. They were buggy from day one.
Pikey Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
TomCatMucDe Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 you burned 2M euros right there :D 2G is too much to shoot those poor magics. you have a higher chance to miss. And I think you were too clsoe to shoot the 530D. How far were you? These are not excuses for the missiles, they are bugged and need to be shot with great care currently
RoflSeal Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Remember guys we need to find hard evidence to fix this :smartass::megalol::megalol::megalol:
Plushanubka Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Remember guys we need to find hard evidence to fix this :smartass::megalol::megalol::megalol: Should we ask French goverment to shoot some planes down? So basically m2k in current condition is less usefull then it was at stat of *BETA* Edited February 8, 2016 by Plushanubka
gospadin Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 after upgrade to 2.0.1 LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlcnZWaJmpo hahahaha ok, that's pretty bad My liveries, mods, and missions for DCS:World M-2000C English Cockpit | Extra Beacons Mod | Nav Kneeboard | Community A-4E
Rlaxoxo Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 ED changed the missledata.lua this patch they must have done something lol "We have changed the data" "The data is wrong" "Can you prove it's wrong" "Well we can't but it doesn't take a genius to realize this is wrong" "I'm sorry we need hard facts" "...." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
fjacobsen Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 In Pikeys video I would say he is too close for a 530D shot. Most misiles needs some time inorder to start guiding and reach sufficient speed for control. But I still agree that none of the M200C missiles are very efficient. | i7-10700K 3.8-5.1Ghz | 64GB RAM | RTX 4070 12GB | 1x1TB M.2. NVMe SSD | 1x2TB M.2. NVMe SSD | 2x2TB SATA SSD | 1x2TB HDD 7200 RPM | Win10 Home 64bit | Meta Quest 3 |
Rlaxoxo Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 In Pikeys video I would say he is too close for a 530D shot. Most misiles needs some time inorder to start guiding and reach sufficient speed for control. But I still agree that none of the M200C missiles are very efficient. Well for DCS the safety time for Aim-120C to start maneuvering after leaving the rail is 1 second While for R73 it's 0.3 seconds [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
tflash Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 I also noticed a difference, I have a small reference mission in which I go head to head to two Migs, in which before path 2.0.1 I always had a first kill with the 530D. Now it simply always misses. Same mission, same distance. Dunno what happened. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Bidartarra Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Y'all don't get it, the data is fine. The 530D is the high drag bomb version. You have a better chance of a A2A kill by lobbing Mk82 XD
lipas70 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Posted February 8, 2016 I also noticed a difference, I have a small reference mission in which I go head to head to two Migs, in which before path 2.0.1 I always had a first kill with the 530D. Now it simply always misses. Same mission, same distance. Dunno what happened. What happened ? One step forward, two steps back . ED improvements :))). W10 64bit, i9 9900K, 64GB RAM, GTX 1070Ti, 27" FullHD monitor
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