Shez Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Could this possibly be used as a direct replacement for the TM Warthog Slew 'nub'? I don't know enough about the electronics side but it looks to be about the right size and can be had for $85 or so. Worth the money to me. Still can't fathom whybthey went with the silly nub... http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/TSAA1S02A/1040-1053-ND/4291658 _:Windows 10 64 Bit, I7 3770 3.4Ghz, 16 Gigs Ram, GTX 960, TM Warthog, Track IR 5 w/Pro Clip:_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragtop Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Still can't fathom whybthey went with the silly nub... Probably because it costs another $85 :P Seriously though looks like a great solution - I volunteer you to buy one and try it out! 476th vFG Alumni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 Another 4 way hat would be better than what they did. If someone with more electronics knowledge says it should work I'll do just that. :) _:Windows 10 64 Bit, I7 3770 3.4Ghz, 16 Gigs Ram, GTX 960, TM Warthog, Track IR 5 w/Pro Clip:_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 Well, I read in this thread that you can't just replace the nub with a hall sensor. The nub is actually a micro controller of sorts. Bummer. :( http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=137290&page=8 _:Windows 10 64 Bit, I7 3770 3.4Ghz, 16 Gigs Ram, GTX 960, TM Warthog, Track IR 5 w/Pro Clip:_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 The "correct" slew will be one this: http://www.ottoexcellence.com/products/transducer-switch/ But the Warthog slew circuit dont "talk" with then, besides they cost 4 digits. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesD Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 The "correct" slew will be one this: http://www.ottoexcellence.com/products/transducer-switch/ But the Warthog slew circuit dont "talk" with then, besides they cost 4 digits. :) Hey Sokol, since I am doing the other mods for the cougar, is this something I should look at also? There is plenty of room in there if I need to put in a small micro-controller. I was thinking PS3 style joystick with a attiny85 to get the output right. Miles Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/06/01 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 The original "TDC" in Cougar is a PS3 style 2 axis analog micro stick. Any of these analog micro stick in eBay as replacement for PS3 will work with Cougar original circuit, no additional controller is need. Or any 2 axis analog device of this list - that fit in the place. http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/switches/navigation-switches-joystick/1114837?k=directional%20switch E.g. the one linked by OP - that don't work for Warthog because this use different protocol for his "slew" - will work in Cougar. Notice that this model dont have the central click like "PS3" micro-stick. The question is, until now seems that none domestic joystick/HOTAS come with a really good "TDC/slew": In Tm F16FLCS/F22PRO are a mini-track ball or a "IBM" laptop mouse (transducer pressure device), in Cougar a micro-stick - like in CH PRO Throttle, Logitech G-940 stick (one of HAT on grip), some kind of pressure device in Saitek X-55, and a digital axis cursor in Warthog (probable borrowed from cellphones directional switches). And players say that all this solutions are bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesD Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Wow Sokol, Thanks for the detailed info. You are a wealth of information. As you can tell I am new to this community. I will have to pick up a Warthog for testing. Miles Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/06/01 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Your living in the states just skip the TM Throttle and get a real one from flight helmets.com http://www.flighthelmet.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FHL&Product_Code=ACPT-1005&Category_Code= https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushmanni Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 And players say that all this solutions are bad... CH Ministick is pretty good apart from not centering reliably but it still works better than any of the competitors (meaning that I can slew Shkval or TDC faster and more accurately than other people with other joysticks). This makes me think that the CH Hall effect version the OP posted would be the best option for a flight simmer budget as I think it would be pretty similar but without the centering issue. But of course you can't fix Warthog with this. DCS Finland: Suomalainen DCS yhteisö -- Finnish DCS community -------------------------------------------------- SF Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 You could fix the warthog with it. It just wouldn't be a direct replacement. You have to run it as a separate joystick with it's own board and wires. Something I'm contemplating. Budget is a little stretched after a new vid card and monitor purchase. _:Windows 10 64 Bit, I7 3770 3.4Ghz, 16 Gigs Ram, GTX 960, TM Warthog, Track IR 5 w/Pro Clip:_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) You can start with PS3 like micro-stick and a Teensy board - both low cost - and eventually replace the mini stick with this HALL stick from OP link. One possible issue with this model is have ~20mm height above the throttle case wall (HAT versions). [ame]http://www.apem.com/files/apem/brochures/Joysticks_2015/APEM-TS-ThumbControls.pdf[/ame] Edited February 20, 2016 by Sokol1_br Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 For me the issue with the HOG mini stick is the 'grip'. Finger 'slides off the very small shiny surface, and i cant 'sheath' it because the housing restricts it. If I could remove the housing, perhaps i could put a rough cover over the stick. Anyone know if the 'housing ' could be removed or is it integrated into the controller/stick? Has anyone got photos of this dis-assembled ? Fish's Flight Sim Videos [sIGPIC]I13700k, RTX4090, 64gb ram @ 3600, superUltraWide 5120x1440, 2560x1440, 1920x1080, Warthog, Tusba TQS, Reverb VR1000, Pico 4, Wifi6 router, 360/36 internet[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) For me the issue with the HOG mini stick is the 'grip'. Finger 'slides off the very small shiny surface,... The guy use a laptop mouse "nipple" there. http://s17.postimg.org/nxw2rv827/2015_10_21_11_54_53.jpg Pictures of disassembled throttle handle there: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=137290&highlight=warthog+slew Tm did this "HAT" small because the controller inside - looks smartphone directional - is small and his X, Y axis work in 2D, a big "HAT" will force the mechanism. Edited February 22, 2016 by Sokol1_br Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporg Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) For me the issue with the HOG mini stick is the 'grip'. Finger 'slides off the very small shiny surface, and i cant 'sheath' it because the housing restricts it. If I could remove the housing, perhaps i could put a rough cover over the stick. Anyone know if the 'housing ' could be removed or is it integrated into the controller/stick? Has anyone got photos of this dis-assembled ? I was inspired by your question, since the slippery surface is what made it unusable for me too. I have now tried sanding the centre nipple gently with 180 grit sanding paper, and it seems to work. I don't know how long it will last, but I can now move it around with better control. Simple and non-intrusive, just be careful about dirt dropping into the throttle. Maybe one could possibly glue some rubber on top of it (ie. a drop of silicone glue), I think I will try that if it gets slippery again. Edited February 22, 2016 by Sporg System specs: Gigabyte Aorus Master, i7 9700K@std, GTX 1080TI OC, 32 GB 3000 MHz RAM, NVMe M.2 SSD, Oculus Quest VR (2x1600x1440) Warthog HOTAS w/150mm extension, Slaw pedals, Gametrix Jetseat, TrackIR for monitor use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Other "grip" option: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3770263/Warthog_Cursor_Mod#Post3770263 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomOnSteam Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I glued one of these to mine. It works better, but still far from accurate. I think the controller it self is just rubbish. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cockpit Spectator Mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98abaile Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I glued one of these to mine. It works better, but still far from accurate. I think the controller it self is just rubbish. If someone could create the internal part to fit these, I think that'd be the best compromise we could hope for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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