Zaz0 Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 Please developers, could you make all switches and rotarys behaved the same if you click with the left or right button Sometimes I confused when I do left click to a rotary and goes clockwise... and another one goes countercockwise... Same thing happens with some switches too. My porposal is like: - All switches with vertical positions: left click make it up, right make it down. - All switches with horizontal positions: left click to the left and right to the rigth (actually I think all are working ok, most of them are clickable by both mouse-buttons because it toggle the switch) - And the most important for me: right click make cockwise on rotarys and left click make counterclockwise If there are any other rule I don't know, please forgive me :) Thanks!
kivech Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 I second to that. It's quite confusing to have switches switch up with a left click one time, and with a right click the other time. :cry:
gospadin Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 Please developers, could you make all switches and rotarys behaved the same if you click with the left or right button Sometimes I confused when I do left click to a rotary and goes clockwise... and another one goes countercockwise... Same thing happens with some switches too. My porposal is like: - All switches with vertical positions: left click make it up, right make it down. - All switches with horizontal positions: left click to the left and right to the rigth (actually I think all are working ok, most of them are clickable by both mouse-buttons because it toggle the switch) - And the most important for me: right click make cockwise on rotarys and left click make counterclockwise If there are any other rule I don't know, please forgive me :) Thanks! To a western person, right = up (opposite of your first rule) is more "natural" IMO. The other suggestions I agree with. All planes except the A-10C already follow right=up I believe. Maybe we just need a UI option to toggle the behavior. My liveries, mods, and missions for DCS:World M-2000C English Cockpit | Extra Beacons Mod | Nav Kneeboard | Community A-4E
Azrayen Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 To a western person, right = up (opposite of your first rule) is more "natural" IMO. Agreed. And unless I'm mistaken, that's what ED guidelines recommend. I also agree that the M-2000C cockpit feels still WIP about this.
TomCatMucDe Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 Agree with you guys but they have so much on their plate. I hope they finish other things before they come back to ergonomics
Nealius Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 A-10C is left click up.....and since up is generally the primary switch function and left click is primary mouse function it's more logical for left click to be up.
zaelu Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 I also think right click should be up and left click should be down but I don't think it is a matter of West vs East and others may prefer the other way. But it should be standardized. For me Left click is primary mouse click and is "felt" like a "push action" so push down comes naturally. Right click being a secondary action that usually shows a menu is felt/visualized as a flipping action, like turning upside down of an object to see the bottom label that's why I see right click more suitable for up movement of switches. But... others may have other explanations. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
WinterH Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 For me left up, right down is natural. But the point is, whichever way chosen, it should be same across the cockpit. Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
Azrayen Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 A-10C is left click up..... Yep, you're right... and wrong: in the A-10C, left or right click move the 2-position switches. The left down / right up guideline is for the 3-position switches, I forgot that. I didn't check if it's how it's done in the A-10C. But the point is, whichever way chosen, it should be same across the cockpit. Indeed, that's the most important point.
gospadin Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 Yep, you're right... and wrong: in the A-10C, left or right click move the 2-position switches. The left down / right up guideline is for the 3-position switches, I forgot that. I didn't check if it's how it's done in the A-10C. Indeed, that's the most important point. A-10C is backwards from (most) everything else in DCS. My liveries, mods, and missions for DCS:World M-2000C English Cockpit | Extra Beacons Mod | Nav Kneeboard | Community A-4E
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