ARM505 Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 Yeah, I only look at this kind of stuff when *really* bored :) http://www.break.com/index/declassified_russian_ufo_tape.html So, is that really from a MiG21 cockpit? Can anybody ID the seat? (*cough* ForceFeedback *cough*)
Zayets Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 If that's an interception flight why did they took of with empty pylons? And I guess you migh be right, that seat doesn't look like the KM-1/M to me. [sIGPIC]OK[/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 Its a fake, thats an F-15 pit view. The migs would barely let you look outside at all as they have restricted view because of the canopy metal framing, wich is not visible in this video. Also the seat is NOT russian, clearly its american. Also another thing I noticed, is that when they show it in slow motion you can clearly see how the UFO shakes in front of the background in the same way the camera is shaking. If this story is true the video sure hell is not. .
Shaman Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 If that's an interception flight why did they took of with empty pylons? I suppose it is because the first footage (planes taking off) is for sure edited in for documentary purposes and had nothing to do with that event. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
Pilotasso Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 Shaman send me the private message about your X52, Ill try help you out. .
Shaman Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 PM sent. Btw, who believes in alien spaceships anyway?! LOL. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
Pilotasso Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 Private reply sent, hope it helps, worked for me. There must be several planets with life, but planets with complex life must be rare. Planets with inteligent life will be rarer even, and then theres no garauntee if that sentient species has even the psicological profile to even have the initiative for space travel. Its a question of thinking and theres no way to know or even understand what king of thinking an alien race can have. The proof of alien existence is that we exist and developed on this planet. if we survive our technological childhood, we may concieve smart tricks to travel to other star systems without having to endure long painfull trips. Theres some chances that there might be life on mars still as well as other large moons. Albeit very primitive, and possibly have the same origin and be rather similar from that of earths. The problem with sightings is that the vast majority are fake, some are exotic atmospheric fenomena and very few are realy unexplained. Unfortunatly theres so much paranoia arround this subject that its difficult to get a serious UFO info source. .
pschelchshorn Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 that is totally fake, i know the F-15 vid from the back seat where you have the same footage, that ufo was implemented, what a scam lol Flip "Imagine the reason that people hold on to hatred so stubbornly is because if the hate is removed, the pain will set in. Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."
aimmaverick Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 Its a fake, thats an F-15 pit view. The migs would barely let you look outside at all as they have restricted view because of the canopy metal framing, wich is not visible in this video. Also the seat is NOT russian, clearly its american. Also another thing I noticed, is that when they show it in slow motion you can clearly see how the UFO shakes in front of the background in the same way the camera is shaking. If this story is true the video sure hell is not. 100% agreed. And the footage used is from documentary about mig-21 and has nothing to do with this claimed event. Its really unbelievable how the editors can show such piece of trash to general public and they(public) even believe it.
hitman Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 Why does it always have to be life from another planet?? I accepted the fact that theres more likely aliens than the existance of god, but why cant anyone believe that there may be life in the upper atmosphere??? We didnt know there was life at the bottom of the ocean till we found some, we didnt know there was life in the bottom of the poles, we didnt even know there was life waaaaaay up high in the mountains till we found em. Why cant there be life in the upper atmosphere???
Pilotasso Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 Some of the unexplained fenomena shows aobjects accelerating to hypersonic speeds. Tell me wich animal is capable of that. .
nscode Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 Adobus Afterefectus :D Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
hitman Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 Some of the unexplained fenomena shows aobjects accelerating to hypersonic speeds. Tell me wich animal is capable of that. Doesnt have to be an animal. Us humans merely think that we are the most intelligent life on earth, now what makes everyone think that there isnt another kind of life on earth that is more intelligent than us?
Pilotasso Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 More intelligent than us enough to have cleaned up the whole planet after any archeological evidence? Hmmm... Also, if any creature had advanced evolution other than us we would know it. Often when a new creature type apears, the evolution of it didnt come up by a single ancestor link but several of them branched up together. For example there were several humanoids aside of Homo sapiens capable of speach and technology. Birds did not descend solely from the archeopteryx alone but rather a complete colection of feathered lizards. The raptors for example were feathered as well. You do not have one creature developing one way but a whole front of them having similar evolutional paths, only many of them fall off along the way. There would be plenty of evidence of other intelligent creatures born on earth. .
hitman Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 More advanced the race, the faster it can disappear. Its in recorded history about that fact you know. Mostly myth, but some true. Like Atlantis-fact or fiction? There you have it.
Pilotasso Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 More advanced the race, the faster it can disappear. Its in recorded history about that fact you know. You mean highly specialized creatures. Doesnt mean they are more advanced. They get extinct because they cannot adapt as fast as other generalistic creatures to any major enviromental change. Humans are generalistic, oportunistic and highly adaptable. Theres a difference. There would be a low probablility of an inteligent creature to develop as a highly specialized creature and then go extinct just like that. And again we would know about it. If they are dead whos left to erase the traces of their existence? ;) Mostly myth, but some true. Like Atlantis-fact or fiction? There you have it. Atlantis was already found. It was a strech of land in greece that sunk after a giant tsunami, the initial quake liquified the land and the giant wave burried averything under 10 feet of mud. The stories about voyages regarding it were umprecise but long was suspected that no egyptian ship could travel to the midle of the atlantic, nor could any continent exist there on top of the oceanic rift. Atlantis had another name I dont recall right now but it consisted on a small but properous conjuntion os portuary city-states were trade from all over the mediterranean came from ships of all civilazations flourishing there. It would be strange that the ancient reports said all these ships could go as far as the midle of the atlantic, when at the time the mediterranean was already a big challenge as it was. Fact is that these texts were ambigous and peoples imagination just ran wild torwards what they wanted to believe. The reason why the atlantis finding didnt make much of a splash is because it betrayed alot of expectations of what it should be. Those wont learn much. .
Xealot Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 There must be several planets with life, but planets with complex life must be rare. Planets with inteligent life will be rarer even, and then theres no garauntee if that sentient species has even the psicological profile to even have the initiative for space travel. You mean, it must be rare with complex/intelligent life on planets near us because how do you know whats rare, when you have not seen anything of the universe The community newbie http://winsbydefault.com/pics/dctf1ibxh7.gif Replace this image! It's too big! © Administration (max size: 150pix height, 50kb)
Pilotasso Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 You mean, it must be rare with complex/intelligent life on planets near us because how do you know whats rare, when you have not seen anything of the universe I know when something is rare when it does not impact everything else arround it. ;) Where are those alien transmitions?:D How many planets in the solar system have complex life? We know 1 has;) , 1 or 2 may have primitive life forms, if that. Of all the hundreds of planets we found outside SOL sytem, either they are bombarded with insane radiation doses, gravitational issues or are gas planets wich radiate more hard stuff than than they recieve from their own star. Many more dont even have atmosphere. Hardly an abundance of lush paradises. .
hitman Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 Yeah..stupid aliens!!! Binary code is the language of the universe, right next ot mathematics. Dont they believe that 2+2=5?? :P
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 Pure and simple. Fake! Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
bSr.LCsta Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 Yeah, I only look at this kind of stuff when *really* bored :) http://www.break.com/index/declassified_russian_ufo_tape.html So, is that really from a MiG21 cockpit? Can anybody ID the seat? (*cough* ForceFeedback *cough*) If it were an alien the F-22 would own it with its stealth lazer beams. is this ok?
nscode Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 If it were MiG-25 alien would get cancer from its unsteatlhy radar beams :D Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
HungaroJET Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 PITIABLE :( Yep...It's a FAKE...You see an F-15E cockpit... Atop the midnight tarmac, a metal beast awaits. To be flown below the radar, to bring the enemy his fate. HAVE A BANDIT DAY ! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "When I'm working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong." - R. Buckminster Fuller (1895 - 1983), American Architect, Author, Designer, Inventor, and Futurist
Lt.Seahawk Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 LOL looks interesting DCS F-14 Tomcat Alley Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ceS859w
Guest IguanaKing Posted August 20, 2006 Posted August 20, 2006 Not sure if its a D or E pit, but the back-end of that seat is definitely that of a US F-15 of some type. No MiG-21 is equipped with an ACES II that is painted black, let alone an ACES II at all. What? Did the poster of that vid assume we were all morons? :megalol:
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