Oculus Rift with DCS World Discussion

[DerekSpeare]

I didn't forget about the VR/NonVR Settings QuickGuide Guys, I'm Actually trying to catch up on some other things, will post up a guide soon.

 

Also Debating if I want to Add VR / NonVR Launch Buttons w/ only the arguments to enable/disable to the DCS GUI Utility.

 

:thumbup: Anything aimed at making the VR experience better will be appreciated!

[Mad Dog 7.62]

Occasionally I load DCS World with Rift turned off, as mission building is faster in a monitor, and I marvel at how I ever bothered to fly on a 2D screen.

It literally looks so boring that, after spending the last two months in VR, I would rather just go do another activity than have to fly on a 2D monitor ever again.

 

 

This sums it up.

[Johnny Dioxin]

if I may mention another sim - P3Dv3 - I've just spent over an hour flying along the coast of Papua New Guinea in a Beech Bonanza and yes, everything except what I was looking at was out of focus and it never felt like I was flying over real ground - but boy, what an experience!

 

The whole approach to flying has to be different - seeing my wings only just clear the treetops on the tops of ridges was just a complete "wow - just made that!" moment in a completely different way to the "who really gives?" sort of thing you experience on a 2D monitor.

 

Flying into clouds in a valley between two huge mountains - I actually found myself in a struggle for altitude that I never had in 2D flying - the scenery had pulled me in and I nearly became a part of it. I think I was smiling for the entire flight.

 

I just wish I could record exactly what I see in my Rift - such a shame.

 

Easily worth what I paid for it (which is a lot more than Americans paid for theirs, btw - but probably less than the Aussies).

[Einherjer]

I have a question about the usb 3 problem... How sensible is the OR about the "supported" and "not supported" usb3 ports? And have someone tried a USB hub (which surely is not a good idea)

[SkateZilla]

You can always use USB 2.0,

[Einherjer]

Oh - ok that's good - thanks ;)

[Johnny Dioxin]

I have a question about the usb 3 problem... How sensible is the OR about the "supported" and "not supported" usb3 ports? And have someone tried a USB hub (which surely is not a good idea)

 

I just had the recommended "Inateck" one delivered an hour ago - but I've been using an "unsupported" PCIe USB3 port up to now and it has worked perfectly (I borrowed it from another PC so I had to buy another one anyway).

 

Hang on and I'll let you know which one it was...

 

back again :) it was THIS one - SEDNA Renesas, powered.

 

I had been using my onboard USB3.0 ports (on an Asus Z77V board) but the sound kept cutting out.

 

Edit: hmm - strange. A few days ago I posted a review on that Amazon page, stating that I had used it with the Rift and it worked well - with 5 stars. Now it's gone! Wonder if Facebook or Inateck had a hand in that..... (luv conspiracy theories :D )

Edited July 11, 2016 by Brixmis
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[SkateZilla]

HMD USB is for Sync/Data and Audio Controller, (the Sync is used to sync w/ the camera, the data is used to communicate w/ the Rift's internals, Firmware updates, self tests, commands etc etc).

Sensor USB is for Tracking etc.

 

I used it on USB 2.0 fine until I got the Specific USB 3.0 Card they said is guaranteed to work.

 

USB 2.0 supposedly limits the FPS it tracks, i saw no difference.

 

The issue is 95% of the mainboard manufacturers adjust and change their USB3 controller settings to be out of spec, (ya know, those "super speed" modes you have to download the mainboard software to enable 300x boost etc).

 

That and the Rift itself is out of spec, so it causes issues in the form of data loss etc.

[Einherjer]

Thanks for clarification! I have already bought this inateck usb 3 card. But my pc doesn't recognize it. Was also unable to install the driver, so I will try it with my regular usb3 ports which are not officially supported... We will see, thanks guys!

[cichlidfan]

I didn't even try the motherboard ports on the build in my sig, I installed the Innatek before the first boot and just used those from the git go.

[Teej]

My $.02…

 

Communication on USB 2 is host-driven. No data passes to or from the devices (rift, camera, etc) unless the computer initiates the request.

 

USB 3 allows communication to be initiated by the device. Thus it doesn’t have to wait for the periodic polling from the host.

 

USB 2 communication therefore usually runs on a polling “heartbeat”. The computer will poll the OR camera. The data it receives gets sent to the rift itself on its next scheduled polling cycle. The rift’s response comes back on the following polling cycle etc. There can be “latency” introduced by this waiting for polling. USB3 bypasses that by allowing the devices to communicate as fast as necessary….USB3 has 10 times the bandwidth as well.

 

As to the rift and its camera…. the camera / sensor is definitely responsible for determining the rift’s “location” in 3D space. Orientation and changes thereof, however, are primarily measured on board the rift head unit (with a built in magnetometer / accelerometer / gyro). Something (whether it’s the rift itself or the driver on the PC) is reconciling the two data sources for smoothness/accuracy.

 

While some software will complain if the sensor/camera is unplugged, some others will run anyway - and you still have much, but not all, of the Rift’s positional accuracy/freedom.

[DerekSpeare]

I use the Rosewill RC-508 USB 3.0 PCI-E card without issue. It has 4 ports on it. They're ~20 bucks.

[kobac]

VR problems plaguing Nvidia's GeForce GTX 1080, GTX 1070 will be fixed this week

[hannibal]

last night i got into the Huey for the first time on VR.

 

jeezz bbus, the huey cockpit is amaaaaaaazinggggggg in VR.

amazing.

 

only sux that my experience went to the trash once i took off..

 

nausea city!! after 15 mins of flight, motion sickness exploded.

planes are much easier on lil old me.

[adrianstealth]

then all we need is DCS devs is to fix their engine to utilise the power of the 10 series gpu's

[Express0083]

I just purchase mine for $650 :)

[SkateZilla]

VR problems plaguing Nvidia's GeForce GTX 1080, GTX 1070 will be fixed this week

 

they said that last week....

 

Recap, so people dont think this driver will magically make VR Games 200% faster.

 

The Driver will:

-Tell the GPU to Ramp up to the Full Boost Clocks during Oculus and SteamVR API Titles.

A Whopping 126-150Mhz Depending on model.... A whopping 7% more clocks if you can keep the profile to allow 100%+ Full boost the entire time, a whole 4-6 FPS more Per 60 FPS

 

-Allow DisplayPORT to Communicate w/ HTC Vive via DualMODE DisplayPORT.

Edited July 12, 2016 by SkateZilla

[Einherjer]

Got mine today - really nice experience! Even with my poor gtx 770... But PD 2 is too much for it - will upgrade soon.

[SageOT]

Got mine today - really nice experience! Even with my poor gtx 770... But PD 2 is too much for it - will upgrade soon.

 

It's all personal preference of course but I find PD 1.6-1.8 makes everything legible in the cockpits and it's not -quite- the drain of 2.0. For me 1.5 is just barely not enough and 2.0 isn't necessary....

[Einherjer]

You are right, it's something in the middle, 2.0 brings a really clear vision, but it was a quick and dirty test session between lunch and work. I will looking for my best setting.

 

PS: Sensor on a almost full USB 2.0 10 port hub doesn't really degrade the tracking...

[Phantom88]

Got mine today - really nice experience! Even with my poor gtx 770... But PD 2 is too much for it - will upgrade soon.

 

 

:thumbup:Congrats!! I think 1.5-1.8 PD is a nice compromise

[VTB_Ray]

Any ideas how to remove the blue crosshair that remains fixed in the center of view + tool tips when mousing over switches?

[NeilWillis]

Stop moving the mouse and it will disappear in a few seconds.

 

Tool tips can be switched off in the options menu.

[Einherjer]

Will we someday be able to use the mouse without be affected by head movement?

[Kuky]

I've been prompted today to update Rift's Firmware, and it updated it to version 708 / 34a904e8da

I have no idea what the changes are